How did this security breach occur?
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How did this security breach occur?
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"On-flight procedures by cabin crew had worked well..."
Come on Colin! It's not procedure for Cabin crew to search every item in the overheads. It was pure luck that the weapon fell out of the bag.
Trouble with these corporate affairs types is they are so used to Bullsh!tting, it just flows without any forethought!
Come on Colin! It's not procedure for Cabin crew to search every item in the overheads. It was pure luck that the weapon fell out of the bag.
Trouble with these corporate affairs types is they are so used to Bullsh!tting, it just flows without any forethought!
I think he meant that on discovering the items the necessary procedures were followed............ inform the Captain, AFP etc. Not that the cabin crew were looking for prohibited items.
Hopefully some heads will roll at the security checkpoint. Half the time the scanner operator is talking to his/her mate and not even looking at the screen.............
Hopefully some heads will roll at the security checkpoint. Half the time the scanner operator is talking to his/her mate and not even looking at the screen.............
I think he meant to talk the company up and the incident down by spinning a bit of misinformation, a less forgiving person might say he lied.
The alternative is that the spokesperson actually believes that cabin crew check bags for prohibited items.
The alternative is that the spokesperson actually believes that cabin crew check bags for prohibited items.
The conspiracy theorist in me suggests that there will be a report from this incident suggesting that current security measures are inadequate and they will have to be ramped up.
Who was it that had the Taser how did he get it past security and how did it magically fall out of the bag at the wrong time? I will bet folding money anyone who has a taser legally will know they are not to be put on a aircraft and anyone who is carrying one illegally would not let it fall out of a bag.
Interesting to note that the Feds have circled the wagons on this one.
Who was it that had the Taser how did he get it past security and how did it magically fall out of the bag at the wrong time? I will bet folding money anyone who has a taser legally will know they are not to be put on a aircraft and anyone who is carrying one illegally would not let it fall out of a bag.
Interesting to note that the Feds have circled the wagons on this one.
Re the comment:"One passenger, Labor MP Leon Bignell, recalled the drama that began at 2.15pm Melbourne time."
Note - NOT an 'ordinary' SLF,....BUT....a 'Labor MP' SLF no less....
And.... -"and that process was repeated three times with three other passengers," he said.
PLUS....'Three More'..... = 4 on the one flight???
Standby for a another 'Labor' brainstorm of more / closer / whadd-ever-ya-wanna-call-it security ,measures, to protect 'the hard working families of Australia'......
I'm with you Mr 'NN'.... I smell a rat......(Nuthin' to do with a white one either...)
I can just see it now, for a flight fuelled to go from ML to AD.....
"Take me to Cuba"......
Cheers
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The conspiracy theorist in me suggests that there will be a report from this incident suggesting that current security measures are inadequate and they will have to be ramped up.
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Could be about time we started to lock up these idiots that bring prohibited items on board aircraft, 6-12 months should start to send the message that this is just not on.
The whole incident does sound a little odd to me, if a "normal" passenger was found to have a taser on them, you would expect that the whole terminal would be shut down and all the passengers re-screened (like what happened in Sydney). I guess the AFP knew better in this case.
The whole incident does sound a little odd to me, if a "normal" passenger was found to have a taser on them, you would expect that the whole terminal would be shut down and all the passengers re-screened (like what happened in Sydney). I guess the AFP knew better in this case.
I'd like a dollar for every prohibited item that is carried daily on planes all over the world! I'd be filthy rotten rich!:-) I note in the article that the current 'vote' that is there for those so inclined for is security enuf or not shows around a 50/50 vote for.
A gun of any description shape or size that ends up aboard a plane is a real worry,somebody's gunna pay for this cockup if it is indeed an accident!!
But I also agree with 'nev' here, something stinks with this !!!
Wmk2
A gun of any description shape or size that ends up aboard a plane is a real worry,somebody's gunna pay for this cockup if it is indeed an accident!!
But I also agree with 'nev' here, something stinks with this !!!
Wmk2
Makes you wonder how many naughty things DON't fall out of a bag ??
If you could work out the chances of:
Surely the odds must be astronomical ... unless .... there are hundreds of guns smuggled on board each day. That would lower the odds... but still huge.
So, where am I going with this? Buggered if I know ...
If you could work out the chances of:
- Someone taking a gun onboard
- ANYTHING falling out of a carry-on bag
- That anything being a gun
- The bag having been on top
- The hostie seeing it
Surely the odds must be astronomical ... unless .... there are hundreds of guns smuggled on board each day. That would lower the odds... but still huge.
So, where am I going with this? Buggered if I know ...
The AFP were quite happy to make public that Simon Overland had been busted with
ammo in his carry-on at Canberra which may have been for 'political' purposes.
I wonder if they'll be as forthcoming in releasing the identity of the person who 'fessed up to owning the bag in this incident ?
ammo in his carry-on at Canberra which may have been for 'political' purposes.
I wonder if they'll be as forthcoming in releasing the identity of the person who 'fessed up to owning the bag in this incident ?
Must of got through when an ASIC carrying flight crew were 'randomly' getting bomb swiped and bag searched
Back when crew were getting screened almost every time...
Screener: Blah blah blah...selected for explosive screening...blah blah
Me: Whatever.
Screener: you don't look happy today
Me: I'm just worried.
Screener: Worried about what?
Me: About how many of the actual security threats that are walking by right now, while you are screening me, are going to board my flight.
That usually put a stop to the inane conversation.
Strange that the person wasn't arrested. Is there any way to findout the persons name in order to determine if it's a set-up?
If you could work out the chances of:
Someone taking a gun onboard
ANYTHING falling out of a carry-on bag
That anything being a gun
The bag having been on top
The hostie seeing it
Someone taking a gun onboard
ANYTHING falling out of a carry-on bag
That anything being a gun
The bag having been on top
The hostie seeing it
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You're not supposed to be able to buy marijuana or methamphetamines either, but there's no shortage.
Tasers are relatively easy to come by, being small, electronic and easy to buy overseas.
You'd be amazed to know what you can buy at local markets if you know the right people.
Of course some of you may not be as amazed as all that. 
Tasers are relatively easy to come by, being small, electronic and easy to buy overseas.
You'd be amazed to know what you can buy at local markets if you know the right people.
Of course some of you may not be as amazed as all that.
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Thank goodness we have full body scanning coming to stop this kind of thing. Very timely incident indeed .
Doesn't anyone use lateral thinking anymore?
The dropped taser was obviously the inflight spare that the Sky Marshall had in his carry-on. The primary taser was in his front pocket.
The Sky Marshall was accidentally assigned to look after the flight on which a Labor MP just so happened to be traveling on.
The Security screening was fine, the AFP are fine and Sky Marshalls don't get arrested.
Now let's get on with discussing something more useful and relevant to the price of fish...
The dropped taser was obviously the inflight spare that the Sky Marshall had in his carry-on. The primary taser was in his front pocket.
The Sky Marshall was accidentally assigned to look after the flight on which a Labor MP just so happened to be traveling on.
The Security screening was fine, the AFP are fine and Sky Marshalls don't get arrested.
Now let's get on with discussing something more useful and relevant to the price of fish...