Base Maint / A380 restructure
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Base Maint / A380 restructure
Sad to see we have gone from one Harris to another.
Lets make more operation managers, As if Cabin Maintenance under hurricane Rod and the stooge will be a success.
Another brainstorm by the Towball to slot lazy Old kranky Franky into A380 and V pod, Big things happening is his favorite catch phrase. Only big thing happpening will be his head walking through the h96 smoko room door.
Word on the street he is bringing the retired sharks captain over to bring the recalcitrant 380 wonder boys into line.
While we are at it lets roll out another engagement survey or service quality piece de ****e.
Dark Ages i hear you cry, Next we will be using flint and stone.
Lets make more operation managers, As if Cabin Maintenance under hurricane Rod and the stooge will be a success.
Another brainstorm by the Towball to slot lazy Old kranky Franky into A380 and V pod, Big things happening is his favorite catch phrase. Only big thing happpening will be his head walking through the h96 smoko room door.
Word on the street he is bringing the retired sharks captain over to bring the recalcitrant 380 wonder boys into line.
While we are at it lets roll out another engagement survey or service quality piece de ****e.
Dark Ages i hear you cry, Next we will be using flint and stone.
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No way, the holiday is just starting.
Mangers with no idea trying to resurrect the past.
Looking forward to my b1 payment and A380 licence for fixing chairs.
Mangers with no idea trying to resurrect the past.
Looking forward to my b1 payment and A380 licence for fixing chairs.
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SIO guys have been told that there is no more 380 training after the current course being run.
But the opposite rumour is that the old dinosaurs supervisors are going to get a course.
But the opposite rumour is that the old dinosaurs supervisors are going to get a course.
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Sound`s like theses imbeciles are trying to fix something that isn`t broken. AGAIN!!! Might as well grab your popcorn & watch the circus unfold. Next thing we`ll hear is that they want `our` input as we know the business better than anyone.
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Sound`s like theses imbeciles are trying to fix something that isn`t broken
You are kidding,This is the best thing that could happen for all. Base/330/380 under the same banner, It means more opportunities SOE, unity, cross training,
No more us and them fkn bull**** from all concerned bring it on.
As for supervisor being trained, Whats the problem They are certifying LAMEs .
There is no point in having someone In an operational position without the knowledge give them a course . It will not affect the total required training anyway.
Sound`s like theses imbeciles are trying to fix something that isn`t broken
You are kidding,This is the best thing that could happen for all. Base/330/380 under the same banner, It means more opportunities SOE, unity, cross training,
No more us and them fkn bull**** from all concerned bring it on.
As for supervisor being trained, Whats the problem They are certifying LAMEs .
There is no point in having someone In an operational position without the knowledge give them a course . It will not affect the total required training anyway.
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Mr Wobbles, with MXI you don't need that extra person sitting in the office shuffling papers. The paperwork package needed someone to go through it and make sure it was all good.
MXI is different and everything is displayed on one screen. My issue about them getting trained is, why train a 55+ yo person who will never turn a spanner on the aircraft and who is only going to be an admin LAME and then retire/take redundancy in 5 years or less.
If they are going to train people, make an investment in younger staff who are going to be there for a few years and the company will gets its return on capital(as the irishman likes to say).
If they want to restructure by all means do so, but do it to make things better, don't do it and give all their mates a course and a payrise and be no more productive.
They talked about fleet streaming with 2 distinct areas, Boeing 744 767 738 and Airbus 330/380. This would keep most people happy. Those who are staunch airbus haters can work on there beloved 744s and those who like plastics work in airbus.
There would surely be enough aircraft in both the fleets to make it happen and to make it work.
MXI is different and everything is displayed on one screen. My issue about them getting trained is, why train a 55+ yo person who will never turn a spanner on the aircraft and who is only going to be an admin LAME and then retire/take redundancy in 5 years or less.
If they are going to train people, make an investment in younger staff who are going to be there for a few years and the company will gets its return on capital(as the irishman likes to say).
If they want to restructure by all means do so, but do it to make things better, don't do it and give all their mates a course and a payrise and be no more productive.
They talked about fleet streaming with 2 distinct areas, Boeing 744 767 738 and Airbus 330/380. This would keep most people happy. Those who are staunch airbus haters can work on there beloved 744s and those who like plastics work in airbus.
There would surely be enough aircraft in both the fleets to make it happen and to make it work.
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Mr Wobbles, Base/330/380 are already under one banner CT is the boss of it all and I think even if the 380 people were to be moved back into the H131 smoko room, they would all still be working back over in H96, you would see them only at shift change. My tip is you will see a bit more "helping out" from both sides as has been happening with cabbos of late.
As for supervisers/DMM's getting 380 training, that may just be a rumour started by a Base supervisor.
Interesting that CT has installed MS as manager A380, this migt mean he is happy with the status quo up there in H96, MS not really known for pushing through a cange/reform agenda.
As for supervisers/DMM's getting 380 training, that may just be a rumour started by a Base supervisor.
Interesting that CT has installed MS as manager A380, this migt mean he is happy with the status quo up there in H96, MS not really known for pushing through a cange/reform agenda.
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MXI you don't need that extra person sitting in the office shuffling papers. The paperwork package needed someone to go through it and make sure it was all good.
Snr LAMEs so busy doing MXI & supervisors job, very little time to supervise crews, or is that why now 380 has twice as many Snrs per capita compared to base.
fleet streaming with 2 distinct areas, Boeing 744 767 738 and Airbus 330/380. This would keep most people happy. Those who are staunch airbus haters can work on there beloved 744s and those who like plastics work in airbus.
This is still segregation not a good look why are you so scared to mix it up a little. Several of the base guys are now A380 trained & have been working on a380.If we are one section the manpower can go where its need. Like we used to do in the 1980s back to the future you say yes but it worked. The point is we are all in this together, work together we will be strong. promote segregation we will be a bunch of self serving, greedy fools. Who sell each other out for a bag of silver as we have in the past.
Snr LAMEs so busy doing MXI & supervisors job, very little time to supervise crews, or is that why now 380 has twice as many Snrs per capita compared to base.
fleet streaming with 2 distinct areas, Boeing 744 767 738 and Airbus 330/380. This would keep most people happy. Those who are staunch airbus haters can work on there beloved 744s and those who like plastics work in airbus.
This is still segregation not a good look why are you so scared to mix it up a little. Several of the base guys are now A380 trained & have been working on a380.If we are one section the manpower can go where its need. Like we used to do in the 1980s back to the future you say yes but it worked. The point is we are all in this together, work together we will be strong. promote segregation we will be a bunch of self serving, greedy fools. Who sell each other out for a bag of silver as we have in the past.
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Do the base guys have the licence or is it just the famil course with MXI. I know some base guys are enjoying 380 land as they are away from most of the crap over in base, eg base ops managers etc.
Also the fact that they are trying new stuff like coneheads doing wheel changes and dirty work and mechs doing elec work.
I know not all people like it but you can't please everyone.
As with the segregation,well it would make sense to stay with 1 make. If you only worked on a 380 1 day in a month you would spend half of that day getting familiar again. 330s to a similar degree, but a Boeing is a Boeing. If you have worked on a 744 then a 738 or a 767 are easier to get into.
If cranky frank tries to implement new disjointed procedures into 380 with his knowledge of the aircraft,then the fleet would come to a grinding halt.
Also the fact that they are trying new stuff like coneheads doing wheel changes and dirty work and mechs doing elec work.
I know not all people like it but you can't please everyone.
As with the segregation,well it would make sense to stay with 1 make. If you only worked on a 380 1 day in a month you would spend half of that day getting familiar again. 330s to a similar degree, but a Boeing is a Boeing. If you have worked on a 744 then a 738 or a 767 are easier to get into.
If cranky frank tries to implement new disjointed procedures into 380 with his knowledge of the aircraft,then the fleet would come to a grinding halt.
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I think integration is a good thing after a few years , but base should be integrated into 380... Not 380 into base.
The guys have built up a good section without the archaic practices of base interfering in the operation.
I think the training slots should go to base LAMES if anyone. From what I've seen there needs to be more floor level supervision under these new regs.
I'm sorry for the SIO guys being bumped.. Was a good chance to gear up for taking some contract back and Leave the QF 380 to the 380 guys
Good chance to share the line work around.
The guys have built up a good section without the archaic practices of base interfering in the operation.
I think the training slots should go to base LAMES if anyone. From what I've seen there needs to be more floor level supervision under these new regs.
I'm sorry for the SIO guys being bumped.. Was a good chance to gear up for taking some contract back and Leave the QF 380 to the 380 guys
Good chance to share the line work around.
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The guys have built up a good section without the archaic practices of base interfering in the operation.
All I've seen is a bunch of AME's with no sense of the big picture, being spoon fed one job at a time, with lots of standing and waiting in between. Then a mad rush at departure time. And the Snr LAME's glued to MXI and not actually leading or supervising their crews, let alone communicating with their counterparts.
Reminds me of Line 3 707's
I see Base as a much leaner operation, that can definitely improve. Imposing A380 system on base would result in a huge rise in J80000 hours.
Red tape created by certain ops managers is the problem. Good luck with that
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When MXi goes fleet wide watch the amount of seniors stuck in front of a computer prior to departure.
Trying to get tasks deferred by planning who are busy having a coffee. It wont be j80000 getting flogged it will be MXI inabilities.
Red tape has been put in by base ops managers, the amount of crap frankie has put out there in the last few years is astounding, just so he can delegate all the work he has to do.
Base might be leaner in areas, but having the 380 and not investing in facilities from day 1 has caused more issues than anything else. Until recently having to tow 2 power units to NE/SE was crap.
Now having to tow 2 air con units so you can turn off the APU(as per policy) and keep the cabinn cool for the cleaners, that is crap.
Having to undo 30 metres of hose and tow the things for 500l of fuel every shift is crap.
Moving it around the jetbase you need 10 people to tow and marshall it, that is crap.
Not having proper stands and equipment to work on upper deck doors/slides is crap.
This is all stuff the readiness team were supposed to be sorting out.But when the aircraft arrived they all p!ssed off to office jobs and never finished the task they started.
I agree with hadagutfull that the 380 system is better not perfect but better.
Trying to get tasks deferred by planning who are busy having a coffee. It wont be j80000 getting flogged it will be MXI inabilities.
Red tape has been put in by base ops managers, the amount of crap frankie has put out there in the last few years is astounding, just so he can delegate all the work he has to do.
Base might be leaner in areas, but having the 380 and not investing in facilities from day 1 has caused more issues than anything else. Until recently having to tow 2 power units to NE/SE was crap.
Now having to tow 2 air con units so you can turn off the APU(as per policy) and keep the cabinn cool for the cleaners, that is crap.
Having to undo 30 metres of hose and tow the things for 500l of fuel every shift is crap.
Moving it around the jetbase you need 10 people to tow and marshall it, that is crap.
Not having proper stands and equipment to work on upper deck doors/slides is crap.
This is all stuff the readiness team were supposed to be sorting out.But when the aircraft arrived they all p!ssed off to office jobs and never finished the task they started.
I agree with hadagutfull that the 380 system is better not perfect but better.
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not investing in facilities from day 1 has caused more issues than anything else. Until recently having to tow 2 power units to NE/SE was crap.
Now having to tow 2 air con units so you can turn off the APU(as per policy) and keep the cabinn cool for the cleaners, that is crap.
Having to undo 30 metres of hose and tow the things for 500l of fuel every shift is crap.
Moving it around the jetbase you need 10 people to tow and marshall it, that is crap.
Not having proper stands and equipment to work on upper deck doors/slides is crap.
Now having to tow 2 air con units so you can turn off the APU(as per policy) and keep the cabinn cool for the cleaners, that is crap.
Having to undo 30 metres of hose and tow the things for 500l of fuel every shift is crap.
Moving it around the jetbase you need 10 people to tow and marshall it, that is crap.
Not having proper stands and equipment to work on upper deck doors/slides is crap.
PS. Base usually have more than ONE aircraft on the ground in SYD to look after each day, as you know. more like 10. So it is no bed of roses in the real world chum.
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P.S.S.
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Bye bye Kranky Franky & Washing Machine Wally, the end of the ping-pong lower level management sh!t..
Welcome Gray Gray (G.J.) thanks Toby (C.T.) we can now move forward, at last....
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Bye bye Kranky Franky & Washing Machine Wally, the end of the ping-pong lower level management sh!t..
Welcome Gray Gray (G.J.) thanks Toby (C.T.) we can now move forward, at last....
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