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Old 4th Nov 2011, 11:58
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I'm loving this. The more media coverage that is generated means the more that my hot mamacita Olivia fronts the TV, and the more she is on TV the more she excites me!
Seriously, my opinions have changed, she is one cute little potato pie. Beautiful figure, snappy dresser, adorable eyebrows and feminine yet intriguing facial features. Clean straight hair with a tinge of red (maybe a little mediteranean?).
Sorry guys and girls, she is starting to awaken my inner man!!
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bp2197...maybe the use of monkey could sound a little racist...but as taildragger67 indicated I used it in the term of "paying peanuts...."as I have worked in Asia and most that I have worked along side with are as good if not better that the Lame's back home.....its just that Victor 2's post got me a little pis$ed off....I would think that the engine line in Asia may not have the experance and knowledge that the old QF ROS had...the rim....
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cactus mate get out of your primary school uniform,because thats what you see in her,you think she may be your strict school teacher about to smack your bottom for saying something bad about Qantas......mate wake up and go out into the real world......or get of the booze either way you need help...
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Hold the Press. There is now another Joyce dumber than Barnaby!
On Ya ALAN!
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 10:26
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Heard a rumour of another 747-400 RB211 engine failure on the way to Narita this week with sparks out the back on takeoff.

It didn't make the news on any TV station in Australia, or am I just imagining it.

Do they really have that much control of the media, or are the media just not keeping their eye on the ball.

That would be the 6th for the year, wouldn't it, with 2 months to go.

So much for outsourcing the product.

Flight crews are getting a little gun shy.

One plane had 2 engine failures on the same wing in a 3 week period.

Let's just keep negotiating the political implications of all of this while the sky falls around us.

What are CASA doing.

What is the government doing.

When is this ridiculous state of affairs going to end.

Deadly game they are playing.
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 10:31
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Not sure if it was on take off but within the last couple of days a 744 5th podded an engine to NRT for an AOG that has reportedly been there since 12 Nov.
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 18:37
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It was reported to me just after takeoff in Syd as Qf21. Aircraft continued to Nrt after the engine indications stabilised. Arrival check of engine showed that she was knackered, appears to be same problem as the other engine failures.
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Old 15th Nov 2011, 19:06
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Keeping it very quiet, compliant press must have been told to back off.
Thinking the failure rate is finally reflecting on managements outsourcing policy blowing up in their faces forget to fact it's really on our wings.

In the past we pilots on the 747 were not overly concerned with the remote chance of an engine failure but now we are all like 'I hope only one fails'.
Interestingly if these unmoded engines had been on the 767 we would have probably lost our ETOPS (extended range whatever) approval by now, forget going to Honolulu etc.

At what stage will these managers be held to account?
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 00:00
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Originally Posted by Mud Skipper
At what stage will these managers be held to account?
They're not.

Any more questions ?

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Old 16th Nov 2011, 03:12
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heard another Qantas 747 engine failed today???

Anyone heard this or know more?
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 03:25
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Re QF engine failures

The more I read and hear about QF engine failures on the 747 makes me sick considering that CASA grounded Ansett 767 a few years back over I believe an AD with respect to 767 engine pylon inspections and possible cracks. It just goes to show the amount of influence the "National Carrier" excert over CASA, the media , and the government. CASA and the government fast becomming a joke to anyone with half a brain. When there is finally a smoking hole in the ground it will be entertaining to see the fallout.
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 04:25
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These pks will just go into denial mode.
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OW. Did somebody say sugar mummy?
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Often wondered what it would take for CASA to take action. What needs to happen? A double engine failure half way to JNB or LAX?

No to mention the dangerous precedent they are setting. Is it acceptable to have a airline flying around with a known defect in engines and for them to have 10(?) engine failures?

If I was Tiger I would be asking a few questions about the impartiality of CASA as it doesn't seem a awfully consistent approach in reality.
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 05:53
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Not sure if it was on take off but within the last couple of days a 744 5th podded an engine to NRT for an AOG that has reportedly been there since 12 Nov.
The rumour I heard was #4 eng failed, and #2 engine getting very tired.
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#2 eng lost alot of oil from a drive pad on the gearbox, not sure which one. #4 had sparks out the tail pipe, after boro in NRT, turbine well f%#*ked. Eng change! Interesting to see how quite it's been isn't it.
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 21:32
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Often wondered what it would take for CASA to take action. What needs to happen? A double engine failure half way to JNB or LAX?
No to mention the dangerous precedent they are setting. Is it acceptable to have a airline flying around with a known defect in engines and for them to have 10(?) engine failures?
Has the root cause being determined on each failure? Obviously each engine failure is investigated individualy, so what are some of the reports saying? Any systemic issues, or is each failure attributed to a different causal factor? 10 in 14 months is by far not a good look for starters, perhaps this issue alone will make it on to the ATSB table, or is it not deemed significant enough for them to investigate? After all, they only investigate 2% of all reports.
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 21:55
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Well Emirates came within a few feet of a fatal yet ATSB cannot organise a report on them so what hope do we have of getting one from a straight forward engine failure?

The fact alone there have been so many failures would suggest a problem with the system of maintenance and/or these engines.

CASA seem pretty quick to take action against smaller GA operators and Tiger, yet QF have a ever lengthening trend of engine failures and nothing is done.
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seem to recall a very trustworthy (not) CEO releasing a statement after copping flak over the issue earlier this year .... might be time for an archive search

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Often wondered what it would take for CASA to take action. What needs to happen? A double engine failure half way to JNB or LAX?
Nothing will be done until all four fail.

No to mention the dangerous precedent they are setting. Is it acceptable to have a airline flying around with a known defect in engines and for them to have 10(?) engine failures?
Yes, it is utterly disgusting how the commercial interests of engine manufacturers and operators are taking precedence over safety. From the last ATSB report on engine failure pages 9-10

http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/3422442...040.pdf#page=9

RR issued a service bulletin on the service bulletin that should have fixed the problem in February 2009.

The incident occurred when?

Aircraft operator
Engine modification
The operator is continuing to embody SB RB211-72-G036, issued in 2009, at engine shop visits where the HPC module is removed. However, should the rate of failures increase significantly, a review of current modification policy will be undertaken.


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