Air Australia!

[Selcalmeonly]

Defence Contract

Thanks - so HiFly is a Portugese AOC holder right?

I'm not a Strategic defender. I don't really know too much about them; but how is it that the Government gives a contract to transport Australian Defence Force personnel to a foreign AOC holder?

[Selcalmeonly]

I know a couple of their Skippers - they'll be in a difficult space. Getting too long in the tooth to do a major move OS again.

[indamiddle]

refueller in phuket last night wanted the bill paid up front. company couldn't pay.
another mate of mine unemployed.

[cyclone8888]

I'm not a Strategic defender. I don't really know too much about them; but how is it that the Government gives a contract to transport Australian Defence Force personnel to a foreign AOC holder?

Because it was made abuntantly clear in the tender that the primary criteria for selection was "value for money for the Australian taxpayer".

You could argue it either way, as it has been in the past many times in the past however the value for money argument was what was used by ADF to award the tender to who they did.

[Lookleft]

Strategic started the Defense contract by using a 330 on a Portugese registered aircraft. The Defense contract should be only open to tender to existing airlines with an Australian AOC.There is plenty of competition with Skywest, Alliance, Qantas, Virgin etc.Reminds me of the Coastwatch debacle in the 80s.

[AN1944]

GONE

Anouncement 01.30 mentha and corda took over no money what happens now ? Who could be a buyer aos must be worth something ,aircraft not owned?

[Eastwest Loco]

Damned shame - and brought down by an Insurance Company 10's of thousands of miles away holding back on paying out millions from an event last year.

I notice Mr Korda has bobbed up again amongst the administrators.

Looks like a looong wait for entitlements yet again

We had 14 passengers affected with 2 of them in the checkin line in Brisbane. They are rolling for the same fare on JQ and refusing the credit card charge on the VC flights. Decent move by AJ at short notice. Good for JQ PR as well and a top up of available seats for nothing.

Even top management (not from the Townsville refueller I know but reliable) didn't see this coming and are in shock.

Hope all the guys and girls find employment ASAP.

All the passengers I had on VC really enjoyed the experience.

Best all

EWL

[dodgybrothers]

EWL, come on, blind freddie could see this coming.

[Phalanger]

I notice Mr Korda has bobbed up again amongst the administrators.

Looks like a looong wait for entitlements yet again

Lets face it, they had just sold everything quickly then everyone would of been out of pocket a lot more than by doing what they did.

[Eastwest Loco]

It was a possible Phalanger, however the 5.5M hole left by the HKT breakdown last year and the failure of the Insurance company to cough left a cash flow conundrum that was the source of many of the rumours.

It seemed that an "attack under the cover of darkness" approach was taken with receivers hitting last night in HKT and early today in BNE and elsewhere.

Sad

Best

EWL

[Ejector]

EWL, What was the 5.5mill bill for ?

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

ABC in Perth reporting approx 4,000 pax either left 'high & dry' at various places around, & have been advised to make altn arrangements with another carrier, or,
those who were about to board (may) have 'done their $$'s.

Unable to afford the fuel so its reported......

FIFO ops in Perth also affected.

[Eastwest Loco]

Psgr reaccom and associated costs Ejector.

Sounds like there wasn't a FIM reaccom arrangement in place and they copped full tote odds rather than uplift at face value.

Regards

EWL

[Teal]

EWL, come on, blind freddie could see this coming.

To (re)launch in November, and go bust only three months later, I just wonder how solvent they were all along. Were they trading whilst insolvent? If so, it would be a serious breach of the Corporations Act and the Directors would be in the firing line. Not much comfort though for their employees and customers.

[down3gr33ns]

how is it that the Government gives a contract to transport Australian Defence Force personnel to a foreign AOC holder?

This'd be the same government that is subsidising another foreign carrier to soon commence mainland - NLK ops. That, too, should have gone to an Aussie AOC holder.

Now, back to the thread ................

[Worrals in the wilds]

refueller in phuket last night wanted the bill paid up front. company couldn't pay.

Surely the company must have seen this coming, if only a week or so ago. Don't they check their bank accounts occasionally?

Another action repeat with a whole bunch of people left unemployed and a whole bunch of people owed money. It's like that Irish song with the chorus 'Again and again and again and again.'

Speaking of Irish, decent move by Joyce/Qantas, IMO.

The next time some big shot entrepeneurial type blasts onto the scene in a blaze of media hype telling us all how he's going to run a passenger airline to the islands and pull on the big boys, can they get laughed out of town? Please? Do we have to keep seeing this endless cycle where people end up out of work and owed money, not to mention stranded in foreign ports? It's not just the big airports, fuel companies and ASA who lose out when this happens, but all the little guys who supply catering, ground handling, seat mending and the like.

All the best to yet another poor swag of ex employees, I hope you can all find work soon.

[Icarus2001]

Yes, when these people set up their next venture the question to ask will be..."Hey were you the guys who ran Ozjet, Strategic, Air Australia or was it Sky Air World?"

Used car salesmen with jets.

[1a sound asleep]

Used car salesmen with jets.

You hit the nail right on the head. I cant mention names but its been a shady operation. They were in a desperate situation months ago and simply ran out of money and then lied through their teeth all the way. I am sorry for the great employees but when will people realise that these sort of pipe dream airline operations never work

[Worrals in the wilds]

And Heavylift, too. Their 737F must be practically rusted to the pavement by now.

Used car salesmen with jets.

Gold!

[Wally Mk2]

I was of the opinion that CASA would not let an AOC holder keep same (& certainly not issue one) if they where not financially able to do so.....thoughts anyone?
It's becoming more obvious that Australia can't support too many Airlines. Sure we have the land mass (Sim to mainland States) but we don't have the population & therefore the jobs with dues taxes & therefore the infrastructure etc & our economy isn't as good as 'Juliar' has us led to believe ! There's always a multitude of reasons why a Co goes bust some directly attributable directly due poor management (see QF for Eg.) & some not.

Jobs are sliding all over this country, batten down the hatches I say as our current Govt are killing their golden goose.........you & I!

Hoping our aviation colleges can find employment elsewhere & soon


Wmk2