Air Australia!

[PoppaJo]

No safety manager? Tiger didn't have one for what...3 years?

[gobbledock]

I'm not totally familiar with the inner slings of AA but I have also been told that the COO has walked, Safety Manager has walked and Chief Pilot has gone?
Anyone know if there is truth in all this? If it is true then things are not looking good.

[jack diamond]

Yes you are right, and apparently the wing came off of one of the aircraft and it crashed . The tea lady has also resigned apparently no teabags, who really gives a s@@# mate im sick and tired of all this crap yes it will fold and then who else can we start with, Is there ever anything positive in this forum?

[HF3000]

Agreed. It really annoys me every time I read a Rumour Forum and people keep posting rumours all over it.

[A37575]

As Air Australia doesn't fly to Bangkok, I have to wonder which airline it was that the passengers were bored on...

The amount of unqualified bulltish that sprouts from this website

Quite right. Pilot error. Significant factors: Bleery eyed passenger meant to say Phuket.

[Thats what she said]

Given the huge amount of QF related threads in this forum that have been locked, presumably for reasons around potential damage to QF, I would repectfully suggest that it may be just as timely to lock this thread. Mods, please consider this.

Regardless of any internal issues the airline is clearly getting on with the job and should not be threatened by any rumours (accurate or otherwise) that may do unneccesary harm.

[1a sound asleep]

Dig your head in the sands. Some people in this industry deserve what gets dished up sometimes when they refuse to see and hear the facts going on around them.

Air Australia in dispute with Flight Centre and Cover More Travel Insurance| The Australian

FACT - The airline has refused to show financials (as Qantas or any other public airline would) and Australias largest Travel Insurere has declined cover.
FACT - The largest Travel Agent in Australia is effectively warning passengers about the risk of insolvency
FACT - IF you work for Air Australia you should go and knock on Sir Michael's door and tell him to get off his ass and sought it out

FACTS not RUMOURS

[winglets747]

This insurance issue has sprung up only as Flight Centre pushes for its agents to receive a higher commission. Yet there is no fight against JQ, who gives 0%.

The insurance provider has blocked JAL for 8 years, China Eastern (I think it was) is on the no go list as well, yet the provider says AA (who is closest to bankruptcy of them all) is safe on the list. Who sets the criteria?

For the majority of pax, if you pay with a credit card, standard credit card T&C should cover any loss if - if - anything happens.

Safety manager leaving...COO leaving...all rumours, and rumours likely started by the competition. Staff and management there couldn't be happier. Well, maybe they could be happier if they could get A330s faster. Sound like another recently re-branded airline?

Air Australia is forecasting a profit for the year.

[prairiegirl]

somebody explain to 1a how these travel agencies work

for pete's sake -

[Rudder]

Why don't you explain it PG. I'm interested to hear your theory on this as well.

1a is absolutely correct.

This is all of AA's doing and can be corrected by them providing the info requested. The FACTS as he has laid them out speak for themselves.

This is normal industry practice and has not been driven by Flight Centre but the insurers after the main underwriter queried AA's solvency. The other main underwriter just followed suite as you would expect.

Seems to me that this should be easily solved if you are in fact solvent. Who knows whether they are, but giving out of date accounts would tend to indicate that AA may not know either.

It is AA that is increasing commission to increase demand from all travel agents.

Now if it makes no difference whether you have this insurance as would be indicated by Winglets then all will be OK. However having it plastered all over the press will have all their creditors and banks now jumping on the bandwagon for confidence. This is going to become a major issue within this business.

And if the accounts are any good you shouldn't have to have them explained. That little cherry speaks for itself I would think. While I am not a lover of some of Ben Sandilands stuff on Crikey. He would appear to have it right this time. This is in AA's court. It is in their interest to get this fixed and fast.

As I have stated before none of AA makes any sense "TO ME" but hell there is lots I don't understand.

I hope they succeed but don't think they will.

[Cargo744]

Rudder

You are correct in what you say. And so so is 1a

[1a sound asleep]

I think people assume I want to see AA go broke. Nothing could be further from the truth BUT I am also business minded and realistic. For interest sake I just looked at BNE-MEL-BNE for the next 14 days.

Some of the cheapest flights are on Qantas, Tiger, Jetstar and Virgin. On a number of days AA is nearly double the cheapest Qantas fare. Qantas sale fares on the route are as low as $109 and $119. Why pick a route with already 4 competitors fighting it out??? Because somebody will accuse me of being wrong here are the screen shots and NO the AA planes are not full.

[1a sound asleep]

Just noticed Strategic VH-SSA A330 operating for Air Pacific tonight MEL-NAN tonight. Interesting as this is a QF code share flight as well. So pax on a QF ticket on a Strat A330

[Artificial Horizon]

Yea but maybe all the cheap fares at AA have already been sold and it is only the more expensive fares available now.

[chuboy]

Also AA has said explicitly they have no intention of going head-to-head on MEL-BNE, they expect most of the traffic to be transferring passengers who want to avail of the convenience of only having to check bags in once. Something like 25% of the load they expect to be transferring pax.

[ivan ellerbai]

this is a QF code share flight as well

Interesting. Is AA a QF code share partner/operator? If not did the QF ticketed passengers travel because I had an experience where I was on a QF ticket but travelling on a code share partner. The partner airline had a break down and another carrier was substituted. This substitute carrier, however, was not a QF code share operator so we were told we could not travel unless we bought another ticket from the original code share partner.

[apacau]

Did this charter to FJ impact at all on VC's own scheduled services? I don't imagine their A330s have too much downtime.

If this charter did indeed delay one or more of their own services, it speaks volumes as to where the money is or isn't being made, especially at this peak time of year.

[Torqueman]

I can see some birds circling above, but when you look closely they are vultures waiting for them to breath their last breath.

[tourismman]

VH-SSA has downtime this week from 4PM mondays to Wednesday 6pm which fitted in nicely with the Fiji charters.

[BOBO THE CLOWN 23]

Flights are full!

Not sure where u get your info from 1a sound a sleep, but the loads are very good on the AA flights. On average I would say they are 90% full.