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The Q regionals have over the years asked AIPA to support a formal intergration system which never recieved much support . It was pointed out that it provided a chance of keeping Q mainline pilots employed if mainline was to contract. When Sothern was wound up they were initially told that no interviews could be arranged with any other group airline as they all operated under different AOC's. Some were given secondment (12 months job search allowance ) , while some were transfered to another turbo prop outfit. If your a mainline pilot, at the bottom of the list, then this MOU into jetstar is not a bad option, take the endorsment then have a look at your options .
Amos2 said :
As I have said previously :
Time to move on from '89 perhaps?
You chose your path in 89' and you are now reaping the benefits!
Phew! Wot' a bunch of turkeys!!
I feel sorry for you pathetic bunch of losers!
Phew! Wot' a bunch of turkeys!!
I feel sorry for you pathetic bunch of losers!
A few facts :
I sit between one third and halfway up the seniority list at Qantas.
I am an F/O on the B767.
I was not a cadet.
I am not overly young for my position.
To put it in perspective :
I was in year 3 at primary school finger painting, learning how to spell and construct sentences during "that year".
I sit between one third and halfway up the seniority list at Qantas.
I am an F/O on the B767.
I was not a cadet.
I am not overly young for my position.
To put it in perspective :
I was in year 3 at primary school finger painting, learning how to spell and construct sentences during "that year".
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Lets have some facts here. When JQ started up there was a lot of animosity, when JQ pilots were up the track after going OS, they were seldom invited to join QF pilots for a drink or a meal, in fact both groups kept to themselves. Some Skygods took it upon themselves to be quite derogatory, and their favorite theme was "so you failed QF entry"? This had a effect on my family personally when my son (JQ) met his sister (QF) at the crew bar in NRT. A couple of Skygods took it upon themselves to give my young bloke a bagging, whilst he is more than able to defend himself, they did not take into account his sibling who flew right into them as only a female can do, our "hero's" quickly left as they realized they had taken on more than they could chew. Thankfully that has now changed, but the older JQ pilots have not forgotten. You all need each other, its the only chance you have against management, the remarks of some show things still need to change.
Nunc est bibendum
It's a shame that occurred teresa. Perhaps it was a response to being told that the Impulse/ Jetstar Pilot Council had rejected AIPA overtures when we bought Impulse.
Some other 'facts' from a bit earlier than your example- these from a time before J* started operating heavy metal overseas and were flying 717s in QantasLink uniforms. Avoiding looking you in the eye or looking away once eye contact was made when in close proximity in the terminal. Being ignored when you subsequently said 'hello'. Getting grunts in response to questions about their day when standing beside them getting coffee.
It was an unpleasant time for crews on both side of the fence. I'll note that since that time J* has probably tripled (or more) in size and QF has added another 400-500 pilots and so for many crew in both airlines they have no frame of reference to this sort of stuff.
Perhaps we should just focus on what unites us rather than what divides us.
Some other 'facts' from a bit earlier than your example- these from a time before J* started operating heavy metal overseas and were flying 717s in QantasLink uniforms. Avoiding looking you in the eye or looking away once eye contact was made when in close proximity in the terminal. Being ignored when you subsequently said 'hello'. Getting grunts in response to questions about their day when standing beside them getting coffee.
It was an unpleasant time for crews on both side of the fence. I'll note that since that time J* has probably tripled (or more) in size and QF has added another 400-500 pilots and so for many crew in both airlines they have no frame of reference to this sort of stuff.
Perhaps we should just focus on what unites us rather than what divides us.
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“I suggest you read the letter signed by Alan Joyce and Kevin Brown to AIPA before you make yourself look stupid again Zapatas.”
I have no doubt that there is agreement between the two. But no one knows how this will unfold until it’s tested. Lets wait and see.
“Qantas cannot make pilots redundant in one part of the business whilst recruiting in another.”
You really sure about that. As above, lets wait and see.
Very little we do in aus airline flying is real world, especially when it comes to labor. Aus is full of industrial agreements and handshakes and honoring dumbass union demands, but that doesn’t make it normal. It certainly doesn’t make it competitive.
The real world reality is gunna hurt when it arrives with a vengeance. Again, consider yourselves fortunate that QF doesn’t show you the door when they downsize.
I have no doubt that there is agreement between the two. But no one knows how this will unfold until it’s tested. Lets wait and see.
“Qantas cannot make pilots redundant in one part of the business whilst recruiting in another.”
You really sure about that. As above, lets wait and see.
Very little we do in aus airline flying is real world, especially when it comes to labor. Aus is full of industrial agreements and handshakes and honoring dumbass union demands, but that doesn’t make it normal. It certainly doesn’t make it competitive.
The real world reality is gunna hurt when it arrives with a vengeance. Again, consider yourselves fortunate that QF doesn’t show you the door when they downsize.
