AUGUST 24th - QANTAS
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Now that a bit of time has passed since the 24th announcement this video from the good senator is well worth a review.
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Here's an idea.
Why don't all QF staff get together and form a group to buy the airline and I mean Qantas not Jetstar.
If Qantas is losing so much money and Jetstar is not being subsidised (obviously it is not because they have said so
) then they should be happy to sell Qantas and to an Australian group so that the Qantas act is not compromised.
If Jetstar is such a stand out performer then they can concentrate on that and good luck to them.They can set up Jetstar to every country they want and rid themselves of such a big problem that they tell us Qantas is.
Why don't all QF staff get together and form a group to buy the airline and I mean Qantas not Jetstar.
If Qantas is losing so much money and Jetstar is not being subsidised (obviously it is not because they have said so
) then they should be happy to sell Qantas and to an Australian group so that the Qantas act is not compromised.If Jetstar is such a stand out performer then they can concentrate on that and good luck to them.They can set up Jetstar to every country they want and rid themselves of such a big problem that they tell us Qantas is.
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If Jetstar is such a stand out performer then they can concentrate on that and good luck to them.
What knucklehead thought that this was a good idea?
With IFE featuring prominently in customer complaints someone thought it was smart to equate the way ahead with 1930s View-Master technology. It's right up there with the iSelect ads (are we a health fund?) which in effect tell us "do business with us because our CEO is a total fool".
With IFE featuring prominently in customer complaints someone thought it was smart to equate the way ahead with 1930s View-Master technology. It's right up there with the iSelect ads (are we a health fund?) which in effect tell us "do business with us because our CEO is a total fool".
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Yeah, I don't know why they bothered using colour....
Now this just in, all of a sudden, AJ is upgrading the 744 fleet.... 12.14 pm smh. I am sure I remember AJ saying before the 24th, he wasn't going to invest any further capital in the "loss making" international business. Funny how thing change in a couple weeks, could it be he may be under some sort of pressure from his precious corporate clients?
Qantas has begun a $250 million project to bring its older Boeing 747 jumbo jets' interiors up to the standards of its Airbus A380 superjumbos.
The airline will upgrade the interiors of nine of its 747-400 aircraft, installing A380-style seats and improving in-flight entertainment.
“The new interiors will vastly improve the flying experience for tens of thousands of Qantas passengers every year,” CEO Alan Joyce said in a statement.
The airline will upgrade the interiors of nine of its 747-400 aircraft, installing A380-style seats and improving in-flight entertainment.
“The new interiors will vastly improve the flying experience for tens of thousands of Qantas passengers every year,” CEO Alan Joyce said in a statement.
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Sorry, no conspiracy there.
The upgrade of the 9 744s has been planned for some time. They are the aircraft that will be kept - the last three Rollers delivered in the late '90s and the 6 ER aircraft delivered 2003 - 2005 or so.
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The upgrade of the 9 744s has been planned for some time. They are the aircraft that will be kept - the last three Rollers delivered in the late '90s and the 6 ER aircraft delivered 2003 - 2005 or so.
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Originally Posted by FBF
What knucklehead thought that this was a good idea?
With IFE featuring prominently in customer complaints someone thought it was smart to equate the way ahead with 1930s View-Master technology.
With IFE featuring prominently in customer complaints someone thought it was smart to equate the way ahead with 1930s View-Master technology.
You've never experienced a rockwell collins IFE system then romulus.
That system would be the single cause of the greatest amount of stress I could imagine cabin crew face on aircraft with that ground breaking system.
That system would be the single cause of the greatest amount of stress I could imagine cabin crew face on aircraft with that ground breaking system.
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Interview with ALAEA - Peter Somerville
Here's a further interview over the 17 August announcements. Action on the Qantas Sale Act?
Radio Australia:Connect Asia:Story:Qantas brand to perish in Asian expansion: union
Radio Australia:Connect Asia:Story:Qantas brand to perish in Asian expansion: union
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Intrigued by the comment where Somerville says
Am not a lawyer, but personally think there is not a lot of difference between (Jetstar - a Qantas Owned Company) and (Qantasia).
Given that AIPA also has/had a case alleging that Qantas could not operate internationally as Jetstar, could be that ALAEA's lawyers are on to something.
The union (ALAEA) is contemplating a court challenge; that this restructure (Qantasia) contravenes the terms of Qantas' 1995 privatisation.
Given that AIPA also has/had a case alleging that Qantas could not operate internationally as Jetstar, could be that ALAEA's lawyers are on to something.
Maybe the possible court action will focus on the intent of the legislation. If the intent of the legislation is argued to be that it was meant meant to stop the downsizing/elimination of the international brand by stealth maybe there could be an issue.
Of course Qantas management won't say anything in public to prejudice their agenda in favour of a challenger in possible court action.
As far as they are concerned whether they believe it or not privately, shrinking Qantas international to 3 main routes, 13 A380s and 9 B744s and no further investment on the horizon until it become a Jetstar replica, they believe(in public) there is no breaking of the law.
Remember its already been stated that no B787's will be coming to Qantas. Qantas management are obviously can't get over the fact that Australia is an end destination and not a hub. Qantas's plan from an outside perspective is to base itself somewhere in the middle of the earth so they can have the advantages of SQ, CX, EK etc. That's where the B787's will end up IMO.
At the end of the day it's a matter of political will if it ever gets more then 10 minutes airtime.
Of course Qantas management won't say anything in public to prejudice their agenda in favour of a challenger in possible court action.
As far as they are concerned whether they believe it or not privately, shrinking Qantas international to 3 main routes, 13 A380s and 9 B744s and no further investment on the horizon until it become a Jetstar replica, they believe(in public) there is no breaking of the law.
Remember its already been stated that no B787's will be coming to Qantas. Qantas management are obviously can't get over the fact that Australia is an end destination and not a hub. Qantas's plan from an outside perspective is to base itself somewhere in the middle of the earth so they can have the advantages of SQ, CX, EK etc. That's where the B787's will end up IMO.
At the end of the day it's a matter of political will if it ever gets more then 10 minutes airtime.
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Given that AIPA also has/had a case alleging that Qantas could not operate internationally as Jetstar, could be that ALAEA's lawyers are on to something.
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Someone thought it smart to align Qantas with the feel good emotions of childhood.
Someone thought it smart to align Qantas with the feel good emotions of childhood.
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Bret Walker SC's Opinion on Breaches of the Qantas Sale Act Breach
Firstly, for those so interested in the legal basis for AIPA's previous action in relation to breaches of the QSA, here's the link to AIPA's supplementary submission to the Senate inquiry on Sen Fielding's amendment to the QSA in 2007:
Parliament of Australia:Senate:Committeesconomics: Inquiry into the Qantas Sale (Keep Jetstar Australian) Amendment Bill 2007 - Submissions received
Go to page 29 of AIPA's supplementary submission.
Bret Walker's opinion was the second - and confirming opinion - that Qantas was likely breaching the Sale Act.
Secondly, and to be fair to the AIPA President, he discontinued the court case because he had won the Presidency on a platform of "if we're nice to them, they'll be nice to us". Politically, he needed to follow through on that to keep faith with the 20-odd COM members who had elected him President.
Unfortunately, the deal he agreed on with Strambi that saw the Sale Act case dropped, was later ignored by Qantas.
Rumour is, the President may be a big enough man to resume the case. I have some confidence that it may be so.
Toodle-pip . . . must fly.
Parliament of Australia:Senate:Committees
conomics: Inquiry into the Qantas Sale (Keep Jetstar Australian) Amendment Bill 2007 - Submissions receivedGo to page 29 of AIPA's supplementary submission.
Bret Walker's opinion was the second - and confirming opinion - that Qantas was likely breaching the Sale Act.
Secondly, and to be fair to the AIPA President, he discontinued the court case because he had won the Presidency on a platform of "if we're nice to them, they'll be nice to us". Politically, he needed to follow through on that to keep faith with the 20-odd COM members who had elected him President.
Unfortunately, the deal he agreed on with Strambi that saw the Sale Act case dropped, was later ignored by Qantas.
Rumour is, the President may be a big enough man to resume the case. I have some confidence that it may be so.
Toodle-pip . . . must fly.
