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Old 27th Jul 2011, 07:52
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Boohoo grab a tissue

Blah blah....Everything is to blame for a dip in QF's profits - Greedy Engineers, greedy Pilots, carbon tax, fuel prices, probably Hendra Virus and solar flares as well !! But of course, and no surprises here, Management are not to blame in the least !!

Fuel worries Qantas more than carbon tax
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  • July 27, 2011 3:38PM
Qantas chief Alan Joyce says he's more worried about the rising price of fuel than the impact of the carbon tax. Picture: AFP Source: AFP
THE escalating fuel price will have a greater impact on Australian air travel than the federal government's planned carbon tax, Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce says.
Qantas and Virgin have promised to pass on the effects of the carbon tax to customers, which they say will increase one-way fares an average of between $3 to $3.50.
But Mr Joyce said today he was much more concerned about fuel costs impacting on the business.
Qantas has said it expects the planned carbon tax to cost the airline group, comprising full service Qantas mainline and low-cost offshoot Jetstar, between $110 million and $115 million in 2012/13.
“The rise of fuel prices greatly outweighs that,” Mr Joyce told reporters in Brisbane.
“Our fuel bill this year will be $4.6 billion.”
He said the airline had no choice but to pass the impact of the carbon tax onto passengers.
“But if you ask me what I'm worried about, I'm more worried about fuel price than I would be about carbon price,” he said.
Virgin Australia estimates it will take a $45 million hit in 2012/13 from the carbon tax based on current domestic fuel consumption.
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Old 27th Jul 2011, 08:26
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1.00 AUD = 1.10669 USD
Of course this GLARING REALITY will be but a mere 1 liner in any report.


Lets just forget Qantas's purchasing power has never, ever, been greater.

Unless one of the smartest people in the room in the finance roles hedged and prepaid for fuel when the AUD was .90 USD last year




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Old 27th Jul 2011, 09:24
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But buying 777's with the strong dollar and negotiated 787 delay compensation would be a stupid idea. Cannot have mainline making a smart business decision, can we? That would hurt the big agenda.

What other airline has successfully eaten and overtaken the main brand with a low cost version? Surely if so many have faaarked it up before our mob would not. Or is it a major loss of face to admit defeat?
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 11:31
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Latest rumour here. Jetstar to get two 744's.
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 11:39
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JQ getting 744. I have been waiting to hear that story...it would all add up as part of the plan.
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 11:55
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 12:03
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QF wet lease to JQ including flight crew and use JQ cabin crew. As it is they cant sell the 744 fleet - nobody wants them
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Mmmmm.....

The color scheme does look better on a larger aircraft.
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 12:09
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Makes the article in the age a week or so ago more meaningful.
Something about the Dallas route being 80 % leisure travelers. Paint a 744 with a cancerous star and voila!
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 12:09
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Sounds like JQ to San Fran from Australia direct then.

Ter be sure, ter be sure........
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 12:13
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If true do we think Boganstar will be gifted two of the older clapped out Qf -400s with the lucky dip RR engines? Not likely, probably two shiney new ones with low mileage, new interiors and mint GE engines.........

On second thoughts, it would not surprise knowing the ineptitude of Qf management to give away two of the six-400 ERs.
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 12:21
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If we are lucky OM could go over and be their fleet manager
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 23:33
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If we are lucky OM could go over and be their fleet manager
Yes yes yes !!!
On second thoughts, it would not surprise knowing the ineptitude of Qf management to give away two of the six-400 ERs.
Perhaps leased to Orangestar by leasing companies which have executive management ties ? Just a thought.
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Old 2nd Aug 2011, 23:50
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I believe the B747 is going to be named Bougainville...
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 00:01
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Does this mean the poor over=stretched Jetstar single on-shift LAME is now going to have to cover not just 2 A330's and a couple of A320's at different ends of the airport at the same time but also a 747 as well?

HELLO CASA ????????


Imagine how different it would be if CASA was a real regulator with real teeth….not just fake rubber ones…..provided by QF…...
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 00:51
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Latest rumour here. Jetstar to get two 744's.
I wondered why a former deputy chief pilot was floating around the network flattering malleable FO's, now a scenario becomes clearer.
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 01:07
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If JQ replaces QF as it seems they will, then all my personal flying will go to anyone else except the Q group!

Will they try and sell the corpse to a nearly bankrupt consortium again?
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I hate to discredit a good conspiracy theory. But have you ever noticed that the tail of a 747 and A330 are very similar in shape and proportion? In fact quite a few times, from a distance and with the fuselage hidden behind a building, I have mistaken one for the other.

Is it possible someone has simply seen the top half of the tail of a JQ 330 and mistaken it for a 744?

Especially given the lack of photographic evidence of this abomination...
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 02:19
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OneDotLow, the ALAEA FEDSEC posted "Jetstar TO get two 744s" implying that they are to get them some time in the near to middle future. Hasn't happened yet, but it would not surprise me.
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 02:51
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Well I,ve spoken to a couple of mates in Jetstar who informed me that Jetstar cancelled 50 to 60 sectors per day in Melbourne and Sydney each day recently so I wouldn't! Be too worried about them taking over the world just yet. They're SHORT.......SERIOUSLY SHORT OF PILOTS!!!!!

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