Is this a ridiculous over-reaction?
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TG You will get no argument from me on that score. The case for staying on the ground made by Qantas and JetStar would be dificult to contest. They obviously made a judgement call and their competitors who kept flying saw it differently. At the end of the day they each may be criticised by some.
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We have probably got 50,000 hrs between us Old Fella, on all sorts of types, we have probably flown aircraft that these young fella's would not even look at, much less fly, in places we would rather forget, but we are just a pair of silly ol buggers, that have little to contribute, but hey, would it not be great, if we knew, at say 35, what we know now? Shame it comes too late. 
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Too late!!!
TG, we may well be a pair of silly old buggers, but we have survived to enjoy retirement. Our days in the heady environment of an aircraft cockpit with others may have gone, but I am not sure about having little to contribute. Rather, getting someone to listen can often be the issue. As you said, a pity we did not know at 35 (or sooner) what we learnt as time took it's toll. Enjoy the memories, I do. 
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Well Richie and Dave flew our boys in red and black into Welly for the match on saturday night in the DC3, how cool is that. They should do that more often, far more class than a jet, even if it took 3 weeks longer to get there.
Qantas have given themselves a really bad PR run, and that is the end of it. Doesn't really matter now who was wrong or not, Qantas look really bad, as do Jetstar (who never looked good).
Win for AirNZ.
Well Richie and Dave flew our boys in red and black into Welly for the match on saturday night in the DC3, how cool is that. They should do that more often, far more class than a jet, even if it took 3 weeks longer to get there.
Qantas have given themselves a really bad PR run, and that is the end of it. Doesn't really matter now who was wrong or not, Qantas look really bad, as do Jetstar (who never looked good).
Win for AirNZ.
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PR machine (and its one of the best) working overtime....Damage control and if I hear "safety before schedule", especially from O.W. one more time I'll spew. they should have just said Cathay, Sing, Air N.Z. and Virgin are just cowboys and be done with it.
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Question is 'have they learnt anything?' considering there is another nice big area of ash heading our way in the middle of this week. I know over here in NZ absolutely no one bought the 'safety before schedule' line and rightly or wrongly the grounding was viewed as a purely economic decision. Qantas PR handled it so badly we actually made Air NZ look like the heroes again 
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Whilever that left over ex-pollie minder Ms Worthless is running the media and PR circus no one will buy anything Q says.
Note however the total absence of any Pilots (or even the odd CC) for that matter backing the falsehoods she delivered...... s'pose after bagging and abusing Pilots the week earlier the only one to put their hand up predictably was PW......(who put in a worse peformance than Worthless)
I did however have my attention drawn to the xfer of some pax between QF and JQ just prior to recommencement.
$afety cliches were thick and fast ..... a chant that may be regretted by OW, AJ & Co in the very near future.
Round 2 coming up later in the week
Note however the total absence of any Pilots (or even the odd CC) for that matter backing the falsehoods she delivered...... s'pose after bagging and abusing Pilots the week earlier the only one to put their hand up predictably was PW......(who put in a worse peformance than Worthless)
I did however have my attention drawn to the xfer of some pax between QF and JQ just prior to recommencement.
$afety cliches were thick and fast ..... a chant that may be regretted by OW, AJ & Co in the very near future.
Round 2 coming up later in the week
There was some abrasion damage albeit minor to some Virgin aircraft, directly from a Virgin engineer
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I think that TG and Old Fella are selling themselves short by describing themselves as "silly old buggers" with "nothing to contribute any more" simply because they are 73 and 71 respectively!
Surely they're aware that there are currently pilots in their very late sixties flying with all Australian airlines who will no doubt be pushing very hard to continue on into their 70's!
These pilots are, without a doubt, looked upon as "silly old buggers" with "nothing to contribute any more"...but they're still there!
Naturally, they are also, rightfully so, looked upon as "selfish old b*stards"!
Which is what they are! And they don't seem to know that!...how stupid is that?
And they are also unsafe
Surely they're aware that there are currently pilots in their very late sixties flying with all Australian airlines who will no doubt be pushing very hard to continue on into their 70's!
These pilots are, without a doubt, looked upon as "silly old buggers" with "nothing to contribute any more"...but they're still there!
Naturally, they are also, rightfully so, looked upon as "selfish old b*stards"!
Which is what they are! And they don't seem to know that!...how stupid is that?
And they are also unsafe
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So, Amos2/Obie. These guys continue to pass their cyclics and line checks to CASA and company standards.
In your expert opinion, why then are they unsafe? (YOUR WORDS). We await your words of wisdom.
Better to keep one's mouth shut and look like a fool, rather than open one's mouth and confirm it, eh old son?
In your expert opinion, why then are they unsafe? (YOUR WORDS). We await your words of wisdom.
Better to keep one's mouth shut and look like a fool, rather than open one's mouth and confirm it, eh old son?
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Interested to see some proof of abrasion damage...any photos? Nothing on company D.S.R. across all fleets. Smoking gun can be caused by blank round, doesn't mean a bullet ever existed. A.o.a. (refer ash damage thread) needs to put some proof up.
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Well said Hugh!!!!
Amos2 is obviously a really experienced aeronaut and therefore qualified to make such a judgement.
Just a pity he hasn't got the guts to expand on his stupid comments and expose himself to be a twisted little nobody with a personal blunt axe to grind!!!!!!!!!!
Amos2 is obviously a really experienced aeronaut and therefore qualified to make such a judgement.
Just a pity he hasn't got the guts to expand on his stupid comments and expose himself to be a twisted little nobody with a personal blunt axe to grind!!!!!!!!!!
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A.o.a. (refer ash damage thread) needs to put some proof up
Oh god this gets better and better!
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And the ones saying there was damage would appear to work for the QF group who didn't fly last week when the ash cloud was higher. But today QF operated 5 flights out of Adelaide when the ASH cloud was lower.
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A.o.a. you need help buddy. Seriously, get a life. The point is without proof your moronic posts have zero credibility. Your'e just a little stone thrower. Good luck in life mate.
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I have a question for you. If QANTAS and Jetstar are so convinced it is unsafe to fly, why are they transferring their passengers to Air NZ flights? Either they know it is safe to fly, or are happy to send their customers to a firey death. Which is it?
