Australian Airline wages compilation
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I hope that this is a gee up. Cos if it's not you my friend are the last person who needs to contribute on this thread. You would prob fit into the buy the job category or cadet scheme so I'm sure you would be happy to accept whatever figure gets thrown at you. I could think of nothing worse than being on a flight as a passenger with a know it all grade 3 with Bars and wings blazing. Your duty to let everyone know aye. You have a long way to go my friend and if you take the path where you don't have to buy a job then chances are you will get left behind or it will be way to hard with the kind of attitude that wearing a uniform on a plane outside of work hours portrayes. If not and you survive I wish you all the best.
Please tell me that was a gee up....
I hope that this is a gee up. Cos if it's not you my friend are the last person who needs to contribute on this thread. You would prob fit into the buy the job category or cadet scheme so I'm sure you would be happy to accept whatever figure gets thrown at you. I could think of nothing worse than being on a flight as a passenger with a know it all grade 3 with Bars and wings blazing. Your duty to let everyone know aye. You have a long way to go my friend and if you take the path where you don't have to buy a job then chances are you will get left behind or it will be way to hard with the kind of attitude that wearing a uniform on a plane outside of work hours portrayes. If not and you survive I wish you all the best.
Please tell me that was a gee up....

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Well, what an entertaining evening. Currently halfway through Ferry Bad Experience, (Biz,Ag,&Ga). Magnificent reading! Now I come to me old mates in DG&P, and who do I find?, none other than the clone of the villian from the previous thread.
Compy me old love, its your time to shout the bar.
Feckin hilarious!
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Compy me old love, its your time to shout the bar.
Feckin hilarious!
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$150g starting pay--find that hard to believe. I know long term truckies in the big company mines who get $130g but these days they hire through agencies and starting wages are around $90g.
Some contractors pay less but if on a 72 hour week can build up a bit.
Pilots and miners wages cant be compared.The hours per year are totally different.
$150g starting pay--find that hard to believe. I know long term truckies in the big company mines who get $130g but these days they hire through agencies and starting wages are around $90g.
Some contractors pay less but if on a 72 hour week can build up a bit.
Pilots and miners wages cant be compared.The hours per year are totally different.
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Salary Information - Latest Pay Rates by Industry at MyCareer
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Pilots and miners wages cant be compared.The hours per year are totally different.
NZ wages? Silence from there so far Johny,

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"The cabin crew on that flight were more than accomodating and thankful that they had an aviation porfessional in the emergency exit row, secure in the knowledge I had the capability and experience to direct pax in an emergency! "
Thats funny in itself... someone didn't listen to the safety brief! Just what the Cabin Crew and pax would need... A Professional Pilot blocking the emergency exit while attempting to direct traffic...
Believe me those mine jobs are not easy to get... the most recent and seemingly only way in for beginners is a $16000 simulator course driving dump trucks in a room for a month... then a guaranteed position on $110 000pa as long as the contracts remain... and the competition for these positions is vast... sound familiar?
Thats funny in itself... someone didn't listen to the safety brief! Just what the Cabin Crew and pax would need... A Professional Pilot blocking the emergency exit while attempting to direct traffic...
Believe me those mine jobs are not easy to get... the most recent and seemingly only way in for beginners is a $16000 simulator course driving dump trucks in a room for a month... then a guaranteed position on $110 000pa as long as the contracts remain... and the competition for these positions is vast... sound familiar?
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Website for all of this Pay Talk
To find out about all airlines pay in go here:
Pilot Jobs Network - for students of pilot schools and experienced airline pilots
Find the country your interested in and then click the "All factfiles" link below that countries name
you will then be taken to a list of airlines/charter/ etc etc.
you can read the details and there will be a date so you can see if its old info. And if you are in an airline (lucky or unlucky) then you can update the info!
This way you wont have to dig through a massive thread to get your info.
Pilot Jobs Network - for students of pilot schools and experienced airline pilots
Find the country your interested in and then click the "All factfiles" link below that countries name
you will then be taken to a list of airlines/charter/ etc etc.
you can read the details and there will be a date so you can see if its old info. And if you are in an airline (lucky or unlucky) then you can update the info!
This way you wont have to dig through a massive thread to get your info.

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Jetstar NZ Pilots Operating in Oz: Salary
Very Relevant, because:
- operate Oz routes eg SYD - FIJI - SYD
- operate trans Tasman routes
Captain A$100,000 (NZ$130,000)
FO A$50,000 (NZ$65,000)
NB This is part of the great "Group Contract" they would like all Jetstar pilots on.
As they have got away with paying above rates, and operating Oz routes with them, watch for more of the same !
- operate Oz routes eg SYD - FIJI - SYD
- operate trans Tasman routes
Captain A$100,000 (NZ$130,000)
FO A$50,000 (NZ$65,000)
NB This is part of the great "Group Contract" they would like all Jetstar pilots on.
As they have got away with paying above rates, and operating Oz routes with them, watch for more of the same !
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"Pilots and miners wages cant be compared.The hours per year are totally different."
"They most definitely CAN be compared as they do 12 hour shifts 24/7... and that's exactly what I'm doing now"
HOw can they be compared. Do miners have a 6 months cyclic system that checks them EVERY six months.
I'm not a miner, but I'm pretty sure you don't do a 2 year course, self funded just to get the licence, and then years of experience in order to earn any where near the 130k you guys are talking about.

"They most definitely CAN be compared as they do 12 hour shifts 24/7... and that's exactly what I'm doing now"
HOw can they be compared. Do miners have a 6 months cyclic system that checks them EVERY six months.
I'm not a miner, but I'm pretty sure you don't do a 2 year course, self funded just to get the licence, and then years of experience in order to earn any where near the 130k you guys are talking about.


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I'd like to see where those mining truck drivers will end up in the next decade, when Australia is no longer going to be able to dig up billions of dollars out of the ground.
My uncle owns a mining dump truck company in WA. Supposedly there is so many unskilled labour wanting to work in the mines as dump truck drivers, he can get away with paying his employees $70k per year 2 weeks on, 1 week off FIFO. Back in 2005 he used to pay his employee's $130k 1 week on, 1 week off and paid for their training, but since he receives 100's of resume's per year he can get away with offering lower salaries.
Absolutely disgusting seeing pilots willing to work for that. $50k as a FO is a joke.
Very Relevant, because:
- operate Oz routes eg SYD - FIJI - SYD
- operate trans Tasman routes
Captain A$100,000 (NZ$130,000)
FO A$50,000 (NZ$65,000)
- operate Oz routes eg SYD - FIJI - SYD
- operate trans Tasman routes
Captain A$100,000 (NZ$130,000)
FO A$50,000 (NZ$65,000)
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Last week I paxed from Sydeny to Melbourne for my neices christening, and even though I was off duty I wore my full uniform consisting of standard white epaulette shirt, 2 bars, wings, blue pants and of course appropriately displayed ASIC.
I love the way you make a point of saying: "and of course appropriately displayed ASIC" - for the benefit of the 5% of people that hadn't developed narcolepsy while reading your drivel.
I'm stunned, this is the saddest thing I've read in a while. I think I'm going to hit the BBC website and read some news on sub-saharan Africa to cheer me up...

Ah yes the mining myth, friend of mine did 2 on 1 off, got paid 100k as a poo kicker, sounds pretty good eh ? Arrive at work Mon morn after 90 min flight and start 7 x 12 hr day shifts, then straight into 7 x 12 hr night shifts at the end of the 7th night shift he caught a 90 min flight home which was the start of his 7 days off. He worked out that the hourly rate was marginally more than his 65k a year job and in any case was not worth leaving his kids fatherless for 2/3 of the year.
If I worked those sort of hours and got paid accordingly I'd be on 500k + a year, apples and oranges .
If I worked those sort of hours and got paid accordingly I'd be on 500k + a year, apples and oranges .
I'd like to see where those mining truck drivers will end up in the next decade, when Australia is no longer going to be able to dig up billions of dollars out of the ground.
Bula, can I please check your math ?
130+20+44 = > 200K
Also to get 44k O/T they would have to average 24 hours O/T a month ( taking out 6 weeks A/L ), if O/T kicks in at 75 like Jet* Oz, then they are doing 99 hours a month, or more to get 200K plus
990 hours plus a year ? Makes the mining jobs look easy .
F/O generally earns 60% of a skipper, so based on your dubious Capt figures that would be 120K plus ?
130+20+44 = > 200K

Also to get 44k O/T they would have to average 24 hours O/T a month ( taking out 6 weeks A/L ), if O/T kicks in at 75 like Jet* Oz, then they are doing 99 hours a month, or more to get 200K plus

990 hours plus a year ? Makes the mining jobs look easy .
F/O generally earns 60% of a skipper, so based on your dubious Capt figures that would be 120K plus ?
Icarus, we'll certainly have the capacity to dig up raw materials but if the early signs of financial stress coming from our largest customer are anything to go by, we may not need to. The Wenzhou financial crisis (as a barometer of the PRC economy) suggests we may see a glut of qualified mine site workers.