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Old 14th Apr 2022, 03:19
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Originally Posted by KRviator View Post
You don't...Yet...But where are the Navigators, Radio Operators, FE's? All "Essential" roles in aviation right up until they weren't. Same as Guards on trains, or the Coey there too. Some jurisdictions still have them, a lot don't. Single-Pilot airliners are not as far away as you would think, after-all what is the fundamental difference in operating a single-pilot business jet vs a single-pilot certified airliner? In RPT roles, perhaps where the passengers would naturally baulk at it, but freighters? I'd be surprised if they aren't around by the end of the decade, and certainly by 2040.

You only have to look at Airbus with their demonstrator A350, Garmin with their certified Auto-return system for things like the CirrusJet, or TBM to see the advancements in technology are there to allow it to happen. When regulators will approve it is the only remaining question...
Single Pilot Cruise isn't far off I agree. But that's a relatively small step from where we are right now, compared to the mammoth leap to Single Pilot ops entirely.

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While I'm here, I'll update the Air NZ (ALPA) rates.
You start earning notional Command Pay after 6 years, so many A320 Captains will be on less than Year 12 but would be very rare on the Widebody's (takes 18 years to reach Year 12 Command Pay and ~24 years average to a WB Command).
Incentive Pay kicks in above 60hrs per roster with step increases at 75 and 90hrs.

Second Officer:
  • Year 1: $114,528
  • Year 8: $146,500
A320 First Officer:
  • Year 1: $128,202
  • Year 8: $163,991
B787-9 First Officer (These should increase with deliveries of the -10's)
  • Year 1: $152,656
  • Year 8: $195,271
B777-300 First Officer (Formerly a blended rate between the -300 and -200's)
  • Year 1:$178,764
  • Year 8: $228,668
A320 Captain:
  • Year 1: $199,397
  • Year 12: $255,637
Boeing 787 Captain:
  • Year 12: $304,398
Boeing 777-300 Captain:
  • Year 12: $356,458

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Old 3rd May 2022, 08:24
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Does anyone know the current wage situation with Qantas etc...with their new EBAs?
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So is that in NZD?
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Old 19th Oct 2022, 08:02
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Express Rates

Any idea about A321 rates at Express Freighters?
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Old 19th Oct 2022, 08:20
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Am I understanding this right???

From the first post on this thread back in April 2011 the following appears:Qantaslink
Q400 Captain - $92,863
Q400 F/O - $60,361
From the most recent long list posted Jan 2019, this appears:

Eastern / Sunnies / Qantaslink
Q400 Captain - $92,863
Q400 F/O - $60,361

So these guys (among many others - just chosen them as an example) haven't seen an increase since 2011? Are they getting anything else besides this 'headline figure'?
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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 06:06
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Originally Posted by RustyFlyerBoy View Post
Am I understanding this right???
No.
A quick look at the Fairwork website will give you an idea what any of the airline EA's are paying. Here's the Sunnie's 2019 Agreement.
Skip down to part 4 and have a look at the table there.

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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 06:21
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Yes Rusty C441 gave you the right link.
This List is meant to operate as a type of self-help system for everyone.
If your airline isn't there or has old data, go ahead and add yours too (even if it's just your fleet) but do it to the whole list i.e. go back to the last full list and Copy it and paste it with your additions.
Simples.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 01:06
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I started this thread 11 years ago (hard to believe!) and have long since given up doing the leg work to update based on new FWC documents.

As Chocks Away said - if people are inclined to then they can update with accurate figures based on their eba/airline.

as an aside - it is interesting to see how far some pilot groups have come in advancing their terms in 11 years, and some have stagnated and some have nearly returned to early ‘teens levels!

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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 04:51
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Originally Posted by RustyFlyerBoy View Post
Any idea about A321 rates at Express Freighters?
From Jan 2023

Captain $196,946

FO $127,523

This may not be exact but it’s what I calculated based on the new 3% wage policy and includes the 5% bonus that is guaranteed.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 12:18
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Its pretty embarrassing right....
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 12:52
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Some of these A320 loco’s up in Asia are starting to creep up on some of these numbers.

A Level 3-5 Air Asia FO is right behind and a Captain is sitting at those numbers. Back in the day they sat about 40% behind.
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Its pretty embarrassing right....
It’s embarrassingly embarrassing.
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Old 24th Oct 2022, 06:29
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And that’s after a recent pay rise!

Plus EFA is mostly horrible back of the clock, 2 Pilot, with occasional hotel day rest etc. Gotta be worth an extra 20% just for those factors alone
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