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Old 20th Aug 2018, 08:34
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 10:40
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg View Post
Do Australian pilots fund their own retirement or rely on the old age pension ?
It depends who they work for.
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Anyone know whether the VANZ numbers quoted above are NZD or AUD?
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 05:43
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Those Jetstar Aus Numbers I suspect are from the 2008 EBA. As of July 1 2018 F/O level 1 $110,447, F/O level 2 $120,488, F/O level 3 $130,529, Capt $200,813. As a level 2 F/O last financial year I made $165,000 plus super, which is about average, to give an idea of expected earnings.
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Anyone know whether the VANZ numbers quoted above are NZD or AUD?
The numbers are in NZD
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Old 6th Sep 2018, 14:12
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Updated Network scales & others
(Updated COBHAM B717 Payscale)


QANTAS
Longhaul Min Guarantee is 160 hours and 6 1/2 rosters per year. Add 27.5 hours for mandatory training. 1067.5 hours.
Effective 1 Jul 18
Second Officer
A380.............................. B744.............................. A330
1. 91.58/ $97.6K..............1. 91.58/ $97.6K.............. 1. 91.58/ $97.6K.
2a. 98.01/ $104.6K...........2a. 98.01/ $104.6K........... 2a. 98.01/ $104.6K
2b. 126.22/ $134.7K.........2b. 120.21/ $128.3K.......... 2b. 114.51/ 122.2K
3. 132.89/ $141.9K...........3. 126.56/ $135.1K........... 3. 120.47/ $128.6K
Hourly rates go up 2-3% each year until year 12.
Individual fleet divisors may change. A330 currently 160. A380 currently 180.
Avg O/T per BP
50*...................................... 29.................................3
First Officer.
Using Year 12 rate only as thatís what theyíre all on.
Using 160 min guarantee. Most divisors between 175- 185
A380.......................... B744.......................... A330.
215.18/ $229.7K.......... 204.93/ $218.8K......... 195.15/ $208.3K
Average O/T
46*.............................. 23.............................. 3.
Captain
Divisor and notes as per F/O
A380........................... B744............................ A330
326.07/ $348.1K........... 310.55/ $331.5K............ 295.76/ $315.7K
Average o/t
45*............................... 25.................................3.
* Note that the 380 o/t numbers will decrease dramatically when the 380 reverts to one LHR flight via SIN. Likely to be closer to 30.

Express Freighters Australia
B737 Captain - $161,038
B737 F/O - $104,074
B767 Captain - $185,764
B767 F/O - $127,387
Network / Qantaslink
A320 Capt $186,000
A320 F/) ?
F100 Captain - $165,000
F100 F/O - ?
E120 Captain - $85,000 (parked)
E120 F/O - $55,000 (parked)

Eastern / Sunnies / Qantaslink
Q400 Captain - $92,863
Q400 F/O - $60,361
Q300/Q200 Captain - $86,789
Q300/Q200 F/O - $56,466

Virgin Australia
VAI:
New pay for A330/B777 as follows:
Capt (+9.5% super)
July 17 $272,986 ($298,919)
July 18 $283,868 ($310,835)
July 19 $291,674 ($319,383)
FO (65% of Capt)
July 17 $177,440 ($194,287)
July 18 $184,513 ($202,042)
July 19 $198,588 ($207,598)
SO (53% of FO)
July 17 $94,043 ($102,977)
July 18 $97,792 ($107,082)
July 19 $100,481 ($110,027)
OT trigger at 75.25 hours per 28 day roster (at Capt $321/330/339hr, FO $209/215/221hr, SO $111/114/117 hr). Minimum credit guarantee of 5 hours for work on any day which includes paxing when in association with a flight duty pairing. Plus some other technicalities and adjustments.
New base rates for B737: (super not included)
Capt.
July 2017 $227,904
July 2018 $233,023
July 2019 $239,440
FO Level 1 / 2 / 3
July 2017 $125,347/$136,742/$148,138
July 2018 $128,167/$139,819/$151,471
July 2019 $131,692/$143,664/$155,637
OT trigger at 68.25 hrs per 28 day RP.

Skywest/VARA
A320 Captain - $165,000
A320 F/O - $107,250
F100 Captain - $128,848
F100 F/O - $83,751
F50 Captain - $97,244
F50 F/O - $63,209

TIGER/JETSTAR A320 RATES 2014
TIGER CAPTAIN
Base $171,000 + EFA $140 + Retention $10,000
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $181,000
682hrs $195,700
787hrs $210,000
900hrs $226,220

TIGER FO Level 3
Base $114,570 + EFA $70 + Retention $6,667
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $121,237
682hrs $128,587
787hrs $135,937
900hrs $143,847

JETSTAR FO Level 3
Base $106,222 + EFA $134,97 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $106,222
682hrs $106,222
787hrs $106,222
900hrs $121,473

TIGER FO Level 2
Base $109,440 + EFA $70 + Retention $6,667
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $116,107
682hrs $123,457
787hrs $130,807
900hrs $138,717

JETSTAR FO Level 2
Base $98,051 + EFA $124.59 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $98,051
682hrs $98,051
787hrs $98,051
900hrs $112,129

TIGER FO Level 1
Base $94,050 + EFA $70 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $94,050
682hrs $101,400
787hrs $108,750
900hrs $116,660

JETSTAR FO Level 1
Base $89,880 + EFA $114.21 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $89,880
682hrs $89,880
787hrs $89,880
900hrs $102,785

Strategic
A320 F/O - $113,000

Cobham
B717 Rates as of 1st July 2018

B717 Captain - $188,000
B717 F/O Yr 1-4 - $112,800
B717 F/O Yr 5+ - $122,200

BAe 146 Captain - $158,000*
BAe 146 F/O - $85,250 up to $100,750 after year 5
DHC-8 Captain - $78,255
DHC-8 F/O - $46,940
Coastwatch DHC-8 Captain ~ 130,000
Coastwatch DHC-8 F/O ~ 78,000

Alliance
F100 Captain - $122,675
F100 F/O - $82,819
F50 Captain ?
F50 F/O ?

RrrrrrrrrExxyyyyyy
Base rates years 1-10 as of July 1 2016
F/O 54,000 - 66,000
Capt 89,000 - 109,000
+2.5% per year until 2018

"The new Aero-Duck"
BAe32 Captain - $64,862
BAe32 F/O - $46,559

RFDS
QLD - B200, PC12, C208 Line pilot - Tier 1 $93784 Tier 2 $104817

Skippers
DHC-8 Captain -$120,000 + o/time!!!
DHC-8 F/O - $55,000*
E120 Captain - $88,816?
E120 F/O - $55,000*
SA227 Captain - $70,855
SA227 F/O - $42,537

Brindabella (R.I.P.)
J41 Captain - $69,000
J41 F/O - $46,000
Metro Captain - $57,000
Metro F/O - $38,000

Pionair BAE146

Airnorth
E170 Captain - 109,000
E170 F/O - 94,200
E120 Captain - ?
E120 F/O - ?
SA227 Captain - ?
SA227 F/O - ?

Skytrans
DHC-8 Captain - ?
DHC-8 F/O - ?

Sharp Aviation
Metro Cpt -?
metro FO - ?

Hardy's
Metro Captain - $75,000
Metro F/O - $52,000
C441 Captain - $70,000

Careflight
$122,000 + +

JETGO
ERJ135 Captain $122,000 plus allowances plus 10% Super
FO $75,000 plus same
Endorsement Salary sacrificed at around $35K over two years.

VANZ (previously Pac Blue)
Captain Level 1 $176,776
Captain Level 2 $185,772
Captain Level 3 $194,765
First Officer Level 1 $103,950
First Officer Level 2 $112,217
First Officer Level 3 $120,606

Air EnZid (NZD)
2018 year 1 pay rates
320
FO 117,898
CA 183,371
787-9
SO 105,323
FO 140,386
CA 218,348
777-300
SO 105,323
FO 164,396
CA 255,691

Jetconnect (NZD)
B737-800
Captain

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $175,520 Y2 $185,524 Y3 $189,744
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $179,908 Y2 $190,162 Y3 $194,487
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $184,406 Y2 $194,916 Y3 $199,349

First Officers

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $100,378 Y2 $111,314 Y3 $113,847
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $102,887 Y2 $114,097 Y3 $116,693
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $105,459 Y2 $116,949 Y3$119,610

Jitstar NZ (NZD)
A320
CA $170,000
FO $ 93,000

"Air No Got" (thanks NCD)
Salary and tax rates are in PGK (KINA) but paid in $AUD at the exchange rate of the day. All these figures are in $AUD having been converted at an indicative exchange rate of .40c
SALARY
DH8 Captain $110,295 First Officer $47,063
400 Captain $122,088 First Officer $74,949
F100 Captain $143,958 First Officer $99,955
737 Captain $163,544 First Officer $107,746
767 Captain $174,135 First Officer $127,072
SUPERANNUATION
Nil
TAX
PNG Kina Tax figure converted to $AUD at .40c.
Tax on $28,000 is $8,564 then 40% on every dollar over $28,000 up to $99,999.
Tax on $100, 000 is $37,364 and the 42% on every dollar over $100,00.
Eg: 737 Captain will GROSS $163, 544, pay TAX of $64, 052 and NET $99,492 ($AUD8,291 / $USD6,316 per mth) without any super paid by the Company.
To put the salary into perspective: Using the figures quoted at Post 213 and the online ATO tax calculator, the ERJ 135 Captain will net $AUD 88,913 and receive $12,000 in super, a total package to $100,913 ($1,421 pa more than the PX B737 Captain).
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Old 23rd Sep 2018, 06:49
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QANTAS
Longhaul Min Guarantee is 160 hours and 6 1/2 rosters per year. Add 27.5 hours for mandatory training. 1067.5 hours.
Effective 1 Jul 18
Second Officer
A380.............................. B744.............................. A330
1. 91.58/ $97.6K..............1. 91.58/ $97.6K.............. 1. 91.58/ $97.6K.
2a. 98.01/ $104.6K...........2a. 98.01/ $104.6K........... 2a. 98.01/ $104.6K
2b. 126.22/ $134.7K.........2b. 120.21/ $128.3K.......... 2b. 114.51/ 122.2K
3. 132.89/ $141.9K...........3. 126.56/ $135.1K........... 3. 120.47/ $128.6K
Hourly rates go up 2-3% each year until year 12.
Individual fleet divisors may change. A330 currently 160. A380 currently 180.
Avg O/T per BP
50*...................................... 29.................................3
First Officer.
Using Year 12 rate only as thatís what theyíre all on.
Using 160 min guarantee. Most divisors between 175- 185
A380.......................... B744.......................... A330.
215.18/ $229.7K.......... 204.93/ $218.8K......... 195.15/ $208.3K
Average O/T
46*.............................. 23.............................. 3.
Captain
Divisor and notes as per F/O
A380........................... B744............................ A330
326.07/ $348.1K........... 310.55/ $331.5K............ 295.76/ $315.7K
Average o/t
45*............................... 25.................................3.
* Note that the 380 o/t numbers will decrease dramatically when the 380 reverts to one LHR flight via SIN. Likely to be closer to 30.

Express Freighters Australia
B737 Captain - $161,038
B737 F/O - $104,074
B767 Captain - $185,764
B767 F/O - $127,387
Network / Qantaslink
A320 Capt $186,000
A320 F/) ?
F100 Captain - $165,000
F100 F/O - ?
E120 Captain - $85,000 (parked)
E120 F/O - $55,000 (parked)

Eastern / Sunnies / Qantaslink
Q400 Captain - $92,863
Q400 F/O - $60,361
Q300/Q200 Captain - $86,789
Q300/Q200 F/O - $56,466

Virgin Australia
VAI:
New pay for A330/B777 as follows:
Capt (+9.5% super)
July 17 $272,986 ($298,919)
July 18 $283,868 ($310,835)
July 19 $291,674 ($319,383)
FO (65% of Capt)
July 17 $177,440 ($194,287)
July 18 $184,513 ($202,042)
July 19 $198,588 ($207,598)
SO (53% of FO)
July 17 $94,043 ($102,977)
July 18 $97,792 ($107,082)
July 19 $100,481 ($110,027)
OT trigger at 75.25 hours per 28 day roster (at Capt $321/330/339hr, FO $209/215/221hr, SO $111/114/117 hr). Minimum credit guarantee of 5 hours for work on any day which includes paxing when in association with a flight duty pairing. Plus some other technicalities and adjustments.
New base rates for B737: (super not included)
Capt.
July 2017 $227,904
July 2018 $233,023
July 2019 $239,440
FO Level 1 / 2 / 3
July 2017 $125,347/$136,742/$148,138
July 2018 $128,167/$139,819/$151,471
July 2019 $131,692/$143,664/$155,637
OT trigger at 68.25 hrs per 28 day RP.

Skywest/VARA
A320 Captain - $165,000
A320 F/O - $107,250
F100 Captain - $128,848
F100 F/O - $83,751
F50 Captain - $97,244
F50 F/O - $63,209

TIGER/JETSTAR A320 RATES 2014
TIGER CAPTAIN
Base $171,000 + EFA $140 + Retention $10,000
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $181,000
682hrs $195,700
787hrs $210,000
900hrs $226,220

TIGER FO Level 3
Base $114,570 + EFA $70 + Retention $6,667
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $121,237
682hrs $128,587
787hrs $135,937
900hrs $143,847

JETSTAR FO Level 3
Base $106,222 + EFA $134,97 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $106,222
682hrs $106,222
787hrs $106,222
900hrs $121,473

TIGER FO Level 2
Base $109,440 + EFA $70 + Retention $6,667
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $116,107
682hrs $123,457
787hrs $130,807
900hrs $138,717

JETSTAR FO Level 2
Base $98,051 + EFA $124.59 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $98,051
682hrs $98,051
787hrs $98,051
900hrs $112,129

TIGER FO Level 1
Base $94,050 + EFA $70 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $94,050
682hrs $101,400
787hrs $108,750
900hrs $116,660

JETSTAR FO Level 1
Base $89,880 + EFA $114.21 + Retention NIL
Estimated Earnings;
577hrs $89,880
682hrs $89,880
787hrs $89,880
900hrs $102,785

Strategic
A320 F/O - $113,000

Cobham
B717 Rates as of 1st July 2018

B717 Captain - $188,000
B717 F/O Yr 1-4 - $112,800
B717 F/O Yr 5+ - $122,200

BAe 146 Captain - $158,000*
BAe 146 F/O - $85,250 up to $100,750 after year 5
DHC-8 Captain - $78,255
DHC-8 F/O - $46,940
Coastwatch DHC-8 Captain ~ 130,000
Coastwatch DHC-8 F/O ~ 78,000

Alliance
F100 Captain - $122,675
F100 F/O - $82,819
F50 Captain ?
F50 F/O ?

RrrrrrrrrExxyyyyyy
Base rates years 1-10 as of July 1 2016
F/O 54,000 - 66,000
Capt 89,000 - 109,000
+2.5% per year until 2018

"The new Aero-Duck"
BAe Jetstream 32 Captain - $70,922
BAe Jetstream 32 F/O - $50,620

RFDS
QLD - B200, PC12, C208 Line pilot - Tier 1 $93784 Tier 2 $104817

Skippers
DHC-8 Captain -$120,000 + o/time!!!
DHC-8 F/O - $55,000*
E120 Captain - $88,816?
E120 F/O - $55,000*
SA227 Captain - $70,855
SA227 F/O - $42,537

Brindabella (R.I.P.)
J41 Captain - $69,000
J41 F/O - $46,000
Metro Captain - $57,000
Metro F/O - $38,000

Pionair BAE146

Airnorth
E170 Captain - 109,000
E170 F/O - 94,200
E120 Captain - ?
E120 F/O - ?
SA227 Captain - ?
SA227 F/O - ?

Skytrans
DHC-8 Captain - ?
DHC-8 F/O - ?

Sharp Aviation
Metro Cpt -?
metro FO - ?

Hardy's
Metro Captain - $75,000
Metro F/O - $52,000
C441 Captain - $70,000

Careflight
$122,000 + +

JETGO
ERJ135 Captain $122,000 plus allowances plus 10% Super
FO $75,000 plus same
Endorsement Salary sacrificed at around $35K over two years.

VANZ (previously Pac Blue)
Captain Level 1 $176,776
Captain Level 2 $185,772
Captain Level 3 $194,765
First Officer Level 1 $103,950
First Officer Level 2 $112,217
First Officer Level 3 $120,606

Air EnZid (NZD)
2018 year 1 pay rates
320
FO 117,898
CA 183,371
787-9
SO 105,323
FO 140,386
CA 218,348
777-300
SO 105,323
FO 164,396
CA 255,691

Jetconnect (NZD)
B737-800
Captain

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $175,520 Y2 $185,524 Y3 $189,744
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $179,908 Y2 $190,162 Y3 $194,487
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $184,406 Y2 $194,916 Y3 $199,349

First Officers

From 20 Aug 18 to 14 Apr 19: Y1 $100,378 Y2 $111,314 Y3 $113,847
From 15 Apr 19 to 12 Apr 20: Y1 $102,887 Y2 $114,097 Y3 $116,693
From 13 Apr 20 to 11 Apr 21: Y1 $105,459 Y2 $116,949 Y3$119,610

Jitstar NZ (NZD)
A320
CA $170,000
FO $ 93,000

"Air No Got" (thanks NCD)
Salary and tax rates are in PGK (KINA) but paid in $AUD at the exchange rate of the day. All these figures are in $AUD having been converted at an indicative exchange rate of .40c
SALARY
DH8 Captain $110,295 First Officer $47,063
400 Captain $122,088 First Officer $74,949
F100 Captain $143,958 First Officer $99,955
737 Captain $163,544 First Officer $107,746
767 Captain $174,135 First Officer $127,072
SUPERANNUATION
Nil
TAX
PNG Kina Tax figure converted to $AUD at .40c.
Tax on $28,000 is $8,564 then 40% on every dollar over $28,000 up to $99,999.
Tax on $100, 000 is $37,364 and the 42% on every dollar over $100,00.
Eg: 737 Captain will GROSS $163, 544, pay TAX of $64, 052 and NET $99,492 ($AUD8,291 / $USD6,316 per mth) without any super paid by the Company.
To put the salary into perspective: Using the figures quoted at Post 213 and the online ATO tax calculator, the ERJ 135 Captain will net $AUD 88,913 and receive $12,000 in super, a total package to $100,913 ($1,421 pa more than the PX B737 Captain).
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Old 26th Sep 2018, 04:25
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Base pay is $82,000

Interesting to note that today JQ have opened an advanced cadet program for internal qantas group employees only for 787 S/O positions.

Itll be interesting to see who applies.
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Old 2nd Nov 2018, 01:29
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Can anyone supply the pay scales for Qantas 787 flight crew?
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 08:32
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Ladies and Gentleman, sorry to drift off the core subject.
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Work smart for what you believe in and negotiate hard for what you know you are worth to these businesses... back yourselves and be prepared to be as fearless as when you break the bonds of the earth and soar into the Stratosphere

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Old 5th Nov 2018, 09:44
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Jitstar NZ (NZD)
A320
CA $170,000
FO $ 93,000
Now that is truly terrible. Please tell me there is significant hourly flight pay on top of that.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 11:44
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OMG, I think I'm gunna be sick! Christ, they talk about shiny jet syndrome, it should be whiny jet syndrome. Look at most science degrees and you get nowhere near the salary that a FO gets, let alone a captain. Don't get me wrong, don't hand it back to the company as management will only get an increased bonus, but don't whine about how hard you're doing it.

I've worked with a lot of intelligent people and they don't always make good pilots, but you'll get more who can train down as pilots than you'll train pilots up to any high end uni degree etc.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Hold_Short View Post
Can anyone supply the pay scales for Qantas 787 flight crew?

Qantas 787 as at 1 Jul 18. From date of check out.
....................Year 1........Year 2........ Year 3......... Year 4
Captain.......$327.82 .....$336.01....... $344.42...... $353.03

F/O............ $216.36.......$221.77...... $227.31..... $232.99

S/O........... $114.74.......$117.61.........$120.55.......$123.55

Min guarantee is 145hrs per bid period. Planning divisor is 155.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 21:30
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Originally Posted by exfocx View Post
OMG, I think I'm gunna be sick! Christ, they talk about shiny jet syndrome, it should be whiny jet syndrome. Look at most science degrees and you get nowhere near the salary that a FO gets, let alone a captain. Don't get me wrong, don't hand it back to the company as management will only get an increased bonus, but don't whine about how hard you're doing it.

I've worked with a lot of intelligent people and they don't always make good pilots, but you'll get more who can train down as pilots than you'll train pilots up to any high end uni degree etc.
High end uni degrees
Yeah right
An extension of high school does not qualify you for much
You deserve more, you sometimes have to think
Try it at 1000 kph where you can die making the wrong decision
I have lectured at uni level and not noticed many that could train down to become pilots!
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Both arguments are irrelevant.

Pay is mainly determined by supply & demand and the effectiveness of negotiation.

PG
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 19:06
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post



Qantas 787 as at 1 Jul 18. From date of check out.
....................Year 1........Year 2........ Year 3......... Year 4
Captain.......$327.82 .....$336.01....... $344.42...... $353.03

F/O............ $216.36.......$221.77...... $227.31..... $232.99

S/O........... $114.74.......$117.61.........$120.55.......$123.55

Min guarantee is 145hrs per bid period. Planning divisor is 155.
Thanks Keg, appreciate the info. Is it my misunderstanding or is the min guarantee different for all fleets? I read in the CA the minimum guarantee is 160hrs for A380 etc, however the 787 is different at 145hrs?
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Old 6th Nov 2018, 23:14
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Yep thatís correct. Lower divisors on the 787 due to no night credits which inflates the credit for each trip on the ďlegacyĒ fleets.

The hourly rate on the 787 is basically equivalent to the 380 (at least in F/O and Capt ranks) to offset the lack of night credits and overtime.

Itís a touchy subject amongst QF crew and Iíll probably get shot down for this but personally I think the 787 pay and conditions are fair and reasonable.
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Itís a touchy subject amongst QF crew and Iíll probably get shot down for this but personally I think the 787 pay and conditions are fair and reasonable.
I think you could probably even stretch that definition to 'luxurious' when compared to the JQ 787 pay and conditions!

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Boofta,

Thanks for the laugh. What "high end uni degree" lecturing were you doing. Hope you're not going to say Aviation Degree!
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Originally Posted by exfocx View Post
OMG, I think I'm gunna be sick! Christ, they talk about shiny jet syndrome, it should be whiny jet syndrome. Look at most science degrees and you get nowhere near the salary that a FO gets, let alone a captain. Don't get me wrong, don't hand it back to the company as management will only get an increased bonus, but don't whine about how hard you're doing it.

I've worked with a lot of intelligent people and they don't always make good pilots, but you'll get more who can train down as pilots than you'll train pilots up to any high end uni degree etc.
All my course mates who graduated with BSc Comp Sci got six figure jobs a few years into their working careers. I then spent an extra 60k on top of my BSc to get my commercial licences and had a good 4 years before I cracked 6 figures.

So it's a bit ingenious to say that "scientists" don't make FO wages. Plenty of uni graduates working in retail because a Bachelor of arts isn't worth sh*t.
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