"Qantas to cut flights and jobs"
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icarus....ill rephrase...
tell me what a 'manager' can do that has a positive influence on someones life and justifies the money they earn...tell me how much time and money they have dedicated to get to the position they are in.
farkin nothin!
tell me what a 'manager' can do that has a positive influence on someones life and justifies the money they earn...tell me how much time and money they have dedicated to get to the position they are in.
farkin nothin!
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Tell me what a 'manager' does that can affect someone elses life?
How about building a crappy roster for you?
How about under training staff you work with so that they are next to useless?
Tell me what a 'manager' does that can affect someone elses life?
How about building a crappy roster for you?
How about under training staff you work with so that they are next to useless?
When they say they work for [insert airline here] secretly they hope the person they are telling, thinks they are a Pilot
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There is some very sensible analysis that says if we agree to the (Union) conditions, then we put the international business into oblivion’
In all probability, Qantas will not have the cash to complete its A380/B787 fleet re-equipment program. However, any suggestion that cost cutting and off shoring/outsourcing will change this, doesn't cut.
What to do. What to do. Workforce on one side - Management on the other. Both dammed if the do, and both dammed if they don’t.
Can’t change the workforce. Can change the underlying company strategy.
Problem is - how to.
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While I do not hold a brief for anyone in Qantas management, I find this allegation offensive. gobbledock should put up or shut up: he should withdraw the allegation if he can't substantaite it.
I believe your silly assertion and comment of 'putting up or shutting up' should not even have been posted had you accurately understood the workings of Mascot. Besides this IS a rumour network old timer, not an 'allegation network' as you like to refer to comments as being, allegations. Anybody astute enough to do some research OR actually know the right people at the right levels will have full knowledge and understanding of the consultancy arangements.
As for 'offensive' I have noticed in the past that other ppruners have found your faulty incorrect aviation comments offensive, I however don't take offence at things as easily as you do probably because I dont have a pea size heart, but then again my lips arent pressed firmly against senior managements ass cheeks the way your lips are.
Anyway, back on track........
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As for the "manager" - 40 hours is bullocks. Try an min of 50 hours + and on 2,000 e-mail's 24/7, 7 days a week with a tonne of stress...
The "managers" and other staff are working under tougher conditions, with fewer resources to support the greater workload, whilst living in fear of job losses all the time...
How many pilots have been made redundant?
And yes, "managers" and below, conditions have also "eroded" over the years - and that is the reality...
As for the "manager" - 40 hours is bullocks. Try an min of 50 hours + and on 2,000 e-mail's 24/7, 7 days a week with a tonne of stress...
The "managers" and other staff are working under tougher conditions, with fewer resources to support the greater workload, whilst living in fear of job losses all the time...
How many pilots have been made redundant?
And yes, "managers" and below, conditions have also "eroded" over the years - and that is the reality...
The "managers" and other staff are working under tougher conditions, with fewer resources to support the greater workload, whilst living in fear of job losses all the time...
How many pilots have been made redundant?
And yes, "managers" and below, conditions have also "eroded" over the years - and that is the reality...
It's not so easy as a Pilot locked in a seniority system to up and go. Especially when this will probably mean moving states or even countries and the subsequent impact on families.
Managers on the other hand can go manage any other company in any other industry, in just about any other place, but most importantly - in their home town.
Pilots are not made redundant because it costs a lot of money to train them, and resources to check them to line. A manager can be hired and working in a week. A Pilot from advertising, interviewing, hiring, training, checking to line can take 12 months or more.
See where I am coming from?
I am just responding to the theme that Qantas Exec's live in a "wonderland"...that is far from accurate.
It is certainly a very different place to what it was even 10 years ago..
It is certainly a very different place to what it was even 10 years ago..
It's not so easy for the Pilots. They are stuck in a dead end, and their career is being outsourced to the lowest bidder.
I would hate to be a middle aged Qantas FO right now. The SOs in their 20s can still do something about it. The others a stuck and management knows it.
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Movement at the airline and growth isn't happening because we have priced ourselves out of the market.
Qantas Link announce a new route every couple of weeks while we get one every couple of years...
Qantas Link announce a new route every couple of weeks while we get one every couple of years...
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Open skies by letting pretty well anyone and everyone to come in resulting in an abundance of seats available for operators to fill, operators that pay a lot less or no tax to their government, probably also being subsidised by their governments. As an example, SIA can depreciate their aircraft over three years, Australian operators ten years.
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I have to agree with T-Vasis on this.
I have never posted anything positive about Qantas "management" in the past-BUT ......(as Gough once said)
ITS TIME!!
I have had an absolute gutful of the Qantas "strategy" of "acting decisively" post few price hikes by........... SACKING PEOPLE.
OK....so now what happens. The survivors are restructured and have to work harder for the same pay.
Its the constant pall of FEAR & GLOOM that hangs in the whole workplace .
Had a coffee in the Red Roo yesterday......no one smiling, laughing. Its all eyes down,despair, and the look of "here we go again!!"
Toxic indeed.
I have never posted anything positive about Qantas "management" in the past-BUT ......(as Gough once said)
ITS TIME!!
I have had an absolute gutful of the Qantas "strategy" of "acting decisively" post few price hikes by........... SACKING PEOPLE.
OK....so now what happens. The survivors are restructured and have to work harder for the same pay.
Its the constant pall of FEAR & GLOOM that hangs in the whole workplace .
Had a coffee in the Red Roo yesterday......no one smiling, laughing. Its all eyes down,despair, and the look of "here we go again!!"
Toxic indeed.
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and to follow on from Z Force
1) no country in the world let's a foreign company set up an airline without major local shareholders except Australia.
2) most Asian airlines are closely connected to their governments hence having major influences in development etc. of local turf issues.
3)Australiann government policy under Howard opened up the Sky's without realising some of the flow on effects of their policy.
4)Labour (Yes, Minister) has no idea how to get a handle on all the current issues.
5) the lack of depth in asking the right questions(not accepting and digging in at the general answers from the respondent) at the current Senate enquiry .
and so on and son on...............
2) most Asian airlines are closely connected to their governments hence having major influences in development etc. of local turf issues.
3)Australiann government policy under Howard opened up the Sky's without realising some of the flow on effects of their policy.
4)Labour (Yes, Minister) has no idea how to get a handle on all the current issues.
5) the lack of depth in asking the right questions(not accepting and digging in at the general answers from the respondent) at the current Senate enquiry .
and so on and son on...............
