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Everyone starts as an FO on the 73. There has at times been exceptions of direct entry onto the 76 in times of expansion/mainline recruiting etc, however those days are gone. They recruit from the 73 to the 76, currently have plenty of takers, and are not expecting any movement on that fleet for a while, so expect anywhere from 1-3 years waiting to move. Having said that, this is aviation and who knows what is planned. The award is available from the fair work website regarding pay, and as above has been in negotiation for the better part of over a year.
73 - you can expect 3-4 nights per week, weekends mostly off with exception of doing a 'Cairns weekend,' where at times of the year you'll be on standby/doing day charters, and other times enjoying cold beers at the Pier.
76 - the operation is 6 days a week plus charters, so expect to work either a Hong Kong over the weekend (3 day trip) or 1-2 Tasman trips per week with plenty of time off. Time to command is currently sitting around 4-5 years with the progression 'generally' to the left of the 73 from both fleets first. Could all change when the 321's arrive, but I'm assuming it will be offered to current crew first.
There is no seniority, it is a performance based airline and both fleets are doing around 60hrs/month. Like any smaller company, you get to know everyone pretty well and they're a great bunch of people to work with - I was genuinely sad to leave. Hope this clears up a few things.
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73 - you can expect 3-4 nights per week, weekends mostly off with exception of doing a 'Cairns weekend,' where at times of the year you'll be on standby/doing day charters, and other times enjoying cold beers at the Pier.
76 - the operation is 6 days a week plus charters, so expect to work either a Hong Kong over the weekend (3 day trip) or 1-2 Tasman trips per week with plenty of time off. Time to command is currently sitting around 4-5 years with the progression 'generally' to the left of the 73 from both fleets first. Could all change when the 321's arrive, but I'm assuming it will be offered to current crew first.
There is no seniority, it is a performance based airline and both fleets are doing around 60hrs/month. Like any smaller company, you get to know everyone pretty well and they're a great bunch of people to work with - I was genuinely sad to leave. Hope this clears up a few things.
RC
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I’ll make some corrections to this, in bold.
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Everyone starts as an FO on the 73. There has at times been exceptions of direct entry onto the 76 in times of expansion/mainline recruiting etc, however those days are gone. They recruit from the 73 to the 76, currently have plenty of takers, and are not expecting any movement on that fleet for a while, so expect anywhere from 1-3 years waiting to move. Having said that, this is aviation and who knows what is planned. The award is available from the fair work website regarding pay, and as above has been in negotiation for the better part of over a year.
73 - you can expect 3-4 nights per week, weekends mostly off with exception of doing a 'Cairns weekend,' where at times of the year you'll be on standby/doing day charters, and other times enjoying cold beers at the Pier.
2-3 nights is more accurate. You might see one 4 night week a roster.
standby/ day charters are highly rare on cairns weekends. 99% of the time it’s cold beers at the pier
76 - the operation is 6 days a week plus charters, so expect to work either a Hong Kong over the weekend (3 day trip) or 1-2 Tasman trips per week with plenty of time off. Time to command is currently sitting around 4-5 years with the progression 'generally' to the left of the 73 from both fleets first. Could all change when the 321's arrive, but I'm assuming it will be offered to current crew first.
737 command is around 3-4 years
There is no seniority, it is a performance based airline and both fleets are doing around 60hrs/month. Like any smaller company, you get to know everyone pretty well and they're a great bunch of people to work with - I was genuinely sad to leave. Hope this clears up a few things.
737 is average 40hrs a month, sometimes as low as 30. It’s extremely rare to be above 55
RC
73 - you can expect 3-4 nights per week, weekends mostly off with exception of doing a 'Cairns weekend,' where at times of the year you'll be on standby/doing day charters, and other times enjoying cold beers at the Pier.
2-3 nights is more accurate. You might see one 4 night week a roster.
standby/ day charters are highly rare on cairns weekends. 99% of the time it’s cold beers at the pier
76 - the operation is 6 days a week plus charters, so expect to work either a Hong Kong over the weekend (3 day trip) or 1-2 Tasman trips per week with plenty of time off. Time to command is currently sitting around 4-5 years with the progression 'generally' to the left of the 73 from both fleets first. Could all change when the 321's arrive, but I'm assuming it will be offered to current crew first.
737 command is around 3-4 years
There is no seniority, it is a performance based airline and both fleets are doing around 60hrs/month. Like any smaller company, you get to know everyone pretty well and they're a great bunch of people to work with - I was genuinely sad to leave. Hope this clears up a few things.
737 is average 40hrs a month, sometimes as low as 30. It’s extremely rare to be above 55
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Yep, that sums up the industry today. If you can't decide which statement is "true", "false" or "cant tell" about a verbose convoluted passage, how can you possibly pass a type rating or work within an airline structure! Oh but wait, you did and or do!!! So many people fall through the cracks based on a theoretical model of assessment.
Been there, heard the arguments that the selection process is an indicator of ability to pass a type rating. Yet Dewa_Gede_70 and others have or can.
Sad state of affairs.
Been there, heard the arguments that the selection process is an indicator of ability to pass a type rating. Yet Dewa_Gede_70 and others have or can.
Sad state of affairs.
Couldn’t agree more...Unfortunately that’s the way they do things these days, arguments for and against could go on and on 🤔
Yep, that sums up the industry today. If you can't decide which statement is "true", "false" or "cant tell" about a verbose convoluted passage, how can you possibly pass a type rating or work within an airline structure! Oh but wait, you did and or do!!! So many people fall through the cracks based on a theoretical model of assessment.
Been there, heard the arguments that the selection process is an indicator of ability to pass a type rating. Yet Dewa_Gede_70 and others have or can.
Sad state of affairs.
Been there, heard the arguments that the selection process is an indicator of ability to pass a type rating. Yet Dewa_Gede_70 and others have or can.
Sad state of affairs.