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Old 7th Oct 2019, 08:54
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me 2, that makes 3 of us so far..... )
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 11:22
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Make that four, especially curious about the 767 roster.
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 17:00
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And now 5..
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 06:46
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Make it 6.
What doesn’t anyone work for efa?
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 09:05
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Originally Posted by davidclarke
Make it 6.
What doesn’t anyone work for efa?
Plenty do, but can’t afford the data to reply......
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How many of you are willing to join as effos?
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 01:23
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Originally Posted by j3pipercub
How many of you are willing to join as effos?
As far as I’m aware they are only recruiting for FOs so I would imagine everyone that is applying.
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Old 10th Oct 2019, 02:44
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Is the 2014 EBA the current agreement?
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Old 13th Oct 2019, 10:02
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Originally Posted by sydneyman
They are Neg a new EBA now.
Good gig, Average pay scales, but great considering hours worked.
Quick progression at moment.
Lots of movement due internal 321 moves
Sydneyman - Yes would join as FO... Have you potentially got an example of a typical week/month?
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 03:04
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Everyone starts as an FO on the 73. There has at times been exceptions of direct entry onto the 76 in times of expansion/mainline recruiting etc, however those days are gone. They recruit from the 73 to the 76, currently have plenty of takers, and are not expecting any movement on that fleet for a while, so expect anywhere from 1-3 years waiting to move. Having said that, this is aviation and who knows what is planned. The award is available from the fair work website regarding pay, and as above has been in negotiation for the better part of over a year.

73 - you can expect 3-4 nights per week, weekends mostly off with exception of doing a 'Cairns weekend,' where at times of the year you'll be on standby/doing day charters, and other times enjoying cold beers at the Pier.

76 - the operation is 6 days a week plus charters, so expect to work either a Hong Kong over the weekend (3 day trip) or 1-2 Tasman trips per week with plenty of time off. Time to command is currently sitting around 4-5 years with the progression 'generally' to the left of the 73 from both fleets first. Could all change when the 321's arrive, but I'm assuming it will be offered to current crew first.

There is no seniority, it is a performance based airline and both fleets are doing around 60hrs/month. Like any smaller company, you get to know everyone pretty well and they're a great bunch of people to work with - I was genuinely sad to leave. Hope this clears up a few things.

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Old 14th Oct 2019, 03:34
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Hi RC, thanks for the really good info on EFA
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 09:03
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Thanks very much romeocharlie, sounds like a very sustainable lifestyle.
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Old 14th Oct 2019, 13:29
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I’ll make some corrections to this, in bold.

Originally Posted by romeocharlie
Everyone starts as an FO on the 73. There has at times been exceptions of direct entry onto the 76 in times of expansion/mainline recruiting etc, however those days are gone. They recruit from the 73 to the 76, currently have plenty of takers, and are not expecting any movement on that fleet for a while, so expect anywhere from 1-3 years waiting to move. Having said that, this is aviation and who knows what is planned. The award is available from the fair work website regarding pay, and as above has been in negotiation for the better part of over a year.

73 - you can expect 3-4 nights per week, weekends mostly off with exception of doing a 'Cairns weekend,' where at times of the year you'll be on standby/doing day charters, and other times enjoying cold beers at the Pier.

2-3 nights is more accurate. You might see one 4 night week a roster.
standby/ day charters are highly rare on cairns weekends. 99% of the time it’s cold beers at the pier


76 - the operation is 6 days a week plus charters, so expect to work either a Hong Kong over the weekend (3 day trip) or 1-2 Tasman trips per week with plenty of time off. Time to command is currently sitting around 4-5 years with the progression 'generally' to the left of the 73 from both fleets first. Could all change when the 321's arrive, but I'm assuming it will be offered to current crew first.

737 command is around 3-4 years

There is no seniority, it is a performance based airline and both fleets are doing around 60hrs/month. Like any smaller company, you get to know everyone pretty well and they're a great bunch of people to work with - I was genuinely sad to leave. Hope this clears up a few things.

737 is average 40hrs a month, sometimes as low as 30. It’s extremely rare to be above 55

RC
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Old 15th Oct 2019, 08:54
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Thanks SW.

That sounds even better! Anyone know if staff travel extends to the whole Qantas group or is this expecting too much?
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Originally Posted by blanikman
Thanks SW.

That sounds even better! Anyone know if staff travel extends to the whole Qantas group or is this expecting too much?
Full, unrestricted Qantas staff travel.
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Is the QF staff travel benefits the same as for COBHAM (operating for QLINK)?
Ie. You are eligible while you are there, but NOT after retirement...
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Originally Posted by 74world
Is the QF staff travel benefits the same as for COBHAM (operating for QLINK)?
Ie. You are eligible while you are there, but NOT after retirement...
No, it’s nothing like the deal cobham are on.
As mentioned, full QF group staff travel.

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Old 5th Nov 2019, 02:49
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Didn’t get pass the psych test 😂

15,000 hrs plus
8000 jet
6000 737
2000 A330
5000 command

i must be really stupid 😂😂

Good luck to the youngsters
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Old 5th Nov 2019, 04:41
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Yep, that sums up the industry today. If you can't decide which statement is "true", "false" or "cant tell" about a verbose convoluted passage, how can you possibly pass a type rating or work within an airline structure! Oh but wait, you did and or do!!! So many people fall through the cracks based on a theoretical model of assessment.

Been there, heard the arguments that the selection process is an indicator of ability to pass a type rating. Yet Dewa_Gede_70 and others have or can.

Sad state of affairs.
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Old 5th Nov 2019, 05:52
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Couldn’t agree more...Unfortunately that’s the way they do things these days, arguments for and against could go on and on 🤔


Originally Posted by aviator777
Yep, that sums up the industry today. If you can't decide which statement is "true", "false" or "cant tell" about a verbose convoluted passage, how can you possibly pass a type rating or work within an airline structure! Oh but wait, you did and or do!!! So many people fall through the cracks based on a theoretical model of assessment.

Been there, heard the arguments that the selection process is an indicator of ability to pass a type rating. Yet Dewa_Gede_70 and others have or can.

Sad state of affairs.
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