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Old 11th Apr 2013, 09:18
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Think you might find this is all a smoke screen.
Atlas contract up for renewal,Atlas wants more money,Q looks at two freighters to put the wind up Atlas.
Atlas reduces contract cost
Just business one O one
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Old 11th Apr 2013, 10:44
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My sources indicate there is more to this one than simply working Atlas for a cheaper quote. Engineering support being seriously looked at for two 744 ERFs.

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Old 11th Apr 2013, 14:57
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Off topic (sorry):

I agree, why would any S/Os consider those new F/O positions with JQ? A pre-Nov 2004 DoJ would just about have the seniority for a MEL 737 F/O spot (if not already) and close to SYD 737 F/O.

Unfortunately the nature of the MoU is such that it doesn't help those who need it most...those who joined 2007 onwards and can't get a mainline F/O gig (even Perth).
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Old 11th Apr 2013, 15:40
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I advised way back it's the two ex Great Wall China Freighters which are near new parked at Victorville CA USA ! One is in Southern California Hangar where QF has offices and store their QF 7x 747/4 and 3x 737/4.The other is pulled up to the Hangar ?
I think QF only thought about getting freighters because they went past them daily to get to their stored aircraft in Victorville and someone's lite bulb came on.
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Old 12th Apr 2013, 02:00
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Crew coming from where?

So will EFA be crewing the operation by:

Utilising QF B744 crew on the current QF long-haul EBA conditions;

Utilising QF B744 crew on LWOP from QF on the current EFA EBA conditions;

Hiring new B744 experienced crew;

or some other plan?

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Old 12th Apr 2013, 06:33
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Utilising QF B744 crew on the current QF long-haul EBA conditions;
No.

Utilising QF B744 crew on LWOP from QF on the current EFA EBA conditions;
Unlikely...but a slight possibility in order to alleviate excess crew resources on the 744.

Hiring new B744 experienced crew;
Almost certainly, with positions being advertised externally and current Qantas crew required to resign from their current position to take up an EFA position.

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Old 12th Apr 2013, 07:07
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And the numpties wonder why they can't engage their pilots.
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Old 12th Apr 2013, 12:23
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And the numpties wonder why they can't engage their pilots.
Do you seriously think they give a shit anyway?

The 400 Fleet Manager is doing the latest delivery to the desert (OJJ) for 'operational reasons'. Not sure if he's planning a quick once over on a couple of second hand ER-Fs while he's up there.
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Old 27th Apr 2013, 00:58
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Qantas Updates Freighter Aircraft

So only one aircraft?

The contract up for renewal was for two aircraft.
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Old 27th Apr 2013, 06:30
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So only one aircraft?

The contract up for renewal was for two aircraft.
Hedging their bets maybe by taking some work in-house to EFA and keeping some outsourced with Atlas?
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Old 27th Apr 2013, 13:09
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Emirates Skycargo maybe?

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Old 9th May 2013, 14:15
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744 Freighter Drivers

According to AIPA:

Qantas freight, as you are no doubt aware, recently purchased a 747 freighter. Rather than use crews who are already trained and that are currently on forced leave, AIPA has been informed that Qantas freight is currently on a recruitment drive in the Middle East for 747 freighter pilots
Has anyone seen any advertisements anywhere?

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Old 9th May 2013, 20:55
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A team is in the Middle-East right now sourcing 10 crews and also in Hong Kong...don't need to advertise!
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Old 10th May 2013, 00:21
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Anyone know the terms and conditions they're offering? One version I heard was that it was the same as the EFA 767. $180K for a 744 captain doing 12-14 days trips.
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Old 10th May 2013, 01:06
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EFA Remuneration

The EFA EBA doesn't specify wide body types.

Unless a side LOA was negotiated to fly the B744, the following base pay (same as B767) would apply:

CA: 170K

FO: 110K

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Old 10th May 2013, 01:56
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sorry is this a windup? There are plenty of 744 crew here in Australia, where the aircraft will be based, yet they are looking overseas for crew?
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Old 10th May 2013, 02:39
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Blimey. $170K for a 744 command on 14 day trips. Shove that! Of course, no doubt they'll find someone to take it on.... just as they found people to fly the 767 for that coin.
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Old 10th May 2013, 05:40
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That's what several CX drivers said as well...special contracts maybe?
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Old 10th May 2013, 05:48
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So the EFA crew dont get first look? Disgusting!!!

I have a red tie, worn well and stored safely if any EFA crew want it...
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Old 11th May 2013, 21:57
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This is the bird QF have leased, that EFA will operate. VH-EQF

747-4HQF
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