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DJ Turboprops announced in Skywest tie up

Old 9th Jan 2011, 23:18
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DJ Turboprops announced in Skywest tie up

DJ have just released on the ASX confirmation of 18 turboprops with delivery to start mid 2011 as part of a 10 year agreement with Skywest to develop WA regional markets and FIFO charters:

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2011011...df1l79dkrn.pdf



Edit : changed timing to reflect this year for delivery.

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Old 9th Jan 2011, 23:43
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What will the turbo props be ? ATR's ?
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 00:25
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HAve heard of rumours of ATR's then again I understand that Mr JB has a soft spot for the Dash 8 400. It is also well known that the Ejet is not the flavour of the month, especially the 170.

A lot of potential questions, ramifications for VB crew??

Or simply the rebirth of Ansett, a phoenix from the ashes?
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 00:33
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delivery to start next year
The release actually says beginning mid 2011.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 00:34
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My reading of this seems to indicate this is not just for WA or FIFO, but is an Australian wide plan
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 00:48
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Massive news

Four questions:

Which type?
Where do the pilots come from?
Do they replace the F50's?
Are they based all in WA ..unlikely?

How long have the Ejets got any predictions on that 1000ft?
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 01:08
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I was stuck in 2010 until I had coffee, thanks Icarus2001 for picking up the error
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 01:11
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Got to love such limited info. Could be anything from a Embraer EMB 110 to a Antonov An-22.

I just dont want to see DJ end up with Ansettism and too many fleet types. What was a 737 airline added the jungle jets, 777, A330 and now the mystery turbo prop

737-700
737-800
777
A330
E170
E175
ATR72/Q400
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 01:25
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I wouldn't panic. Having a few types is not necessarily a bad thing. So long as each one is the right tool for the job its doing and makes money.

The AirNZ group runs about 8 types and they seem to do OK.

Anyone know for sure if the e-jets make money or do they just stem the losses on skinny routes?
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 01:32
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In the other thread about the Australian domestic scene in 2011

10,000 FT was spot on and Pammy was not.

Well done.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 01:33
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Jungle Jets have been a financial disaster and a horrible legacy to inherit.
They should never have been ordered and the Q400 should have been bought at the time
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 01:58
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So who hires the pilots? Virgin or Skywest? Speaking as someone without year 12 physics, hopefully Virgin.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 02:11
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The AirNZ group runs about 8 types and they seem to do OK.
B1900D
Q300
ATR72-500
737-300
A320 Etops (171I International)
A320 Non-Etops (171D Domestic)
767-300ER
747-400
777-200ER
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 02:22
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It'll be XR doing the hiring no doubt so very doubtful if any progression to jets unless you want the Fokker or the Bus!
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Skywest will be operating Q400's painted in Virgin livery.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 03:02
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Wink

And will most likley open up east coast bases in SYD, BNE and MEL, replacing and growing the 170 network.

Anyone know how much Skywest pay their F50 and F100 pilots, as it might give and idea on how much they pay for a 70 seat turboprop.

DJ's fleet will be;

E190, operating the thin routes which is what they have already started to operate. Depending on how the relationship goes with Skywest these could be replaced by F100's operated by Skywest or the 190's will be transferred to Skywest.

B737 doing what they have been doing over the last 10 years.

A330 operating trans con, plus the golden triangle and Asia.

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Old 10th Jan 2011, 03:09
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10yr F100 Capt base: $145k
10yr F50 Capt Base: $108k

FO's 65%

1st Year F50 Capt: $97k increasing $1200 per year of service to $108k for 10yr Capt.

4% pay increase as of July 11 and 3% July 12.

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Old 10th Jan 2011, 03:18
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Thanks XR, so if it is a 70 seat turboprop then the pay would be a minimum of $97K and perhaps around the $110-115k for a 1st year captain.

Looks like REX and Qlink will be bleeding pilots again.
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Not enough for me.
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Skywest to paint all their aircraft Red, new Q400's arriving from mid this year (4), Based on the East coast, pilots and engineers to come from Sunstate and Eastern..... ready made work force and it kills the competition.
JB is sticking it to Q
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