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Old 10th Jan 2011, 09:47
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How much will they charge for a turbo prop endorsment?
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 11:39
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First aircraft only six months away, very tight schedule for a new aircraft on an AOC. Unless of course you already have it on there.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 11:46
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First aircraft only six months away, very tight schedule for a new aircraft on an AOC. Unless of course you already have it on there.
Very astute observation. Under a new entry AOC it won't happen in 6 months, I will put money on it. But as Icarus2001 says....................
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Well, there is plenty of Fokker F50's available on the market!
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 21:06
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Virgin Blue seeks more in regional areas

Skywest base's on the East Coast with Q400s, payrate some where between F50 and F100?? with more than 8 days off in 28..
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 22:34
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Doesnt the owner of REX have a large shareholding in VB. If so this will be interesting.
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Old 10th Jan 2011, 22:53
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I still cant see Qlink guys going to vb regional.
I can feel it in Eastern. The captains want to have more time off (>8 days off). The fo want to have a career progression. If they offer either of those with reasonable remuneration, you will see people leaving from the left or the right of the pit. But all depends whether JB gets ATR or Q400.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 01:52
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Skywest Press Release:

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2011011...dlmdm0tczt.pdf

Second last paragraph on first page, states Skywest will be replacing current fleet with new type to be used in WA on current network.

Doesn't make it clear whether F50/F100's will go or if they will only be used on FIFO.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 01:52
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First aircraft only six months away, very tight schedule for a new aircraft on an AOC. Unless of course you already have it on there.

Very astute observation. Under a new entry AOC it won't happen in 6 months, I will put money on it. But as Icarus2001 says....................
The aircraft are turning up in the middle of the year however the release stated they plan to have four operational by the end of 2011. Im no expert, does that give them sufficient time to get a new type ok'd? I would guess yes.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 02:01
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All Vaus, PacBlue and VB crews have been informed the aircraft will be a new modern type and will allow for new routes along the East Coast.

So yes it will be a new type for Skywest. Remember JB has been working on this since he started with the company, so just because it was annouced yesterday it doesn't mean Skywest /VB started work on changes to the AOC yesterday. They would have been working on this for months, so much of the required paperwork etc required to add the type would already be completed.

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Old 11th Jan 2011, 04:01
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I can feel it in Eastern. The captains want to have more time off (>8 days off). The fo want to have a career progression. If they offer either of those with reasonable remuneration, you will see people leaving from the left or the right of the pit. But all depends whether JB gets ATR or Q400.
I wouldn't assume it'll fall under the VB eba. Vaus didn't and neither did Pac Bro. Qlink doesn't fall under QF does it? There you go.

I think REX will be the first to suffer the losses for east coast bases. The Qlink salary whilst not massive is more than at REX. Then there is the likes of Skippers which will fill the majority of the WA spots. There might be one of those spontaneous pay rises coming up! Either that or a closing of doors due to an exodus. You'd have to say with Network/QF and XR/VB deals Skippers might want to set and alarm clock. Could we see Alliance/Skippers deal? Year of the merger deals?

So many in WA said "oh Virgin, they'll be gone soon". Well JB has kicked off "leaving" WA by getting 4 a 330's and 18 turbo props the majority of which are focused on the resource rich WA. Kudos to those on the Ejet in Perth that took the punt (not that it was a punt anyway) and now have the quickest Jet commands anywhere in the continent. Before you know it the 73-800s will be based there as well. But thats right they'll be gone soon..


Anyone with actual figures

Captain: $
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Other:

for

1. REX
2. Qlink
3. XR

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Old 11th Jan 2011, 06:40
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For those interested, here is a link to the broadcast of yesterdays conference call which clears up some things mentioned in this thread and muddies the waters for other issues!

Annual General Meeting (AGM) and Online Stock Investment News for Australian (ASX) Listed Companies - Boardroom Radio

Click on the SXR broadcast on the front page.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 07:28
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Thanks for the link Chad.

"All new routes to be outside WA" according to the Chairman.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 07:40
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"All new routes to be outside WA" according to the Chairman.
No surprise there, as all the existing WA routes for the new metal already operated by XR!
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I'd hazard a guess and say those 170s are perfect for the Skywest coastal network
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GG - 170's are out!
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 10:46
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Isn't Avation chaired by the chairman of Skywest, that is the turboprops are leased to VB by skywest then operated by skywest at no lease because VB will pay the lease? So Skywest own the turboprops they are being gifted? Sounds a little confusing to say the least....
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Not really - Sounds like a perfect ACMI lease.
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Old 11th Jan 2011, 11:01
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ATR are pushing the new -600 model which features a new full glass flight deck with cat 3 AP and ACARS. It also a newer larger engines which makes it faster than the current -500.

In the phone hook-up yesterday Skywest confirmed the VB deal is for a 70 seat turboprop so we could see the 72-600 used on the east coast and the 42-600 in the west. They also said they are looking for the best deal, so with ATR keen to get the 72 into Australia I'm sure they will sharpen their pencil.
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