a gift from Qantas to Virgin Blue
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a gift from Qantas to Virgin Blue
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This can't possibly be the new "business" class seating of Qantas Domestic?
This can't possibly be the new "business" class seating of Qantas Domestic?
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Yep, If Virgin choose a decent business class seat for its 330's business class, pax will leave in droves for Virgin on the Perth route. I have just used all 3 styles of business seats in QF 330's. The 300 series skybed is just fantastic, but not used much on domestic routes. The older style business class seat is hard, only reclines about 6 cm, a really uncomfortable seat. Just flew on the new business class seat and can say that its really uncomfortable. There is no IFE controls on the seat top, you have to lean fwd, pull out the remote and use that. The seat is narrow, hard and not much better than economy class. The centre seat in the middle row is not highly sought after either. When the original 330's arrived QF had many complaints about the quality of the business seat from pax, looks like no one listened. The 767 business seat is a much more comfortable seat. This is a real backwards step for QF, and if Borghetti chooses right he will be only a winner. Maybe if we ask virgin nicely we can have Borghetti back and we will give them AJ and we'll also throw in a set of steak knives.
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Just flew on the new business class seat and can say that its really uncomfortable. There is no IFE controls on the seat top, you have to lean fwd, pull out the remote and use that. The seat is narrow, hard and not much better than economy class. The centre seat in the middle row is not highly sought after either.
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Keg, this is the layout of EBP. Took it to Perth the other day and not good reviews from the business punters. I tried it before getting off and thought it can't be a step forward.
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How very strange. I flew on EBN (I think) in late September and it was on it's first day or so in service with the 'new domestic J class config' according to the cabin crew. Video units were all 'in armrest' rather than the seat back of the seat in front. Those J class pax around me raved about the seats, service, IFE at the time. I can't understand why we'd trash that config so soon. I suspect some genius is thinking this config will only fly MEL-SYD-BNE and so it doesn't matter so much. 
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I found the seats very uncomfortable to sleep in because it seems like the headrest is too high for someone average in height so the "wings" on the headrest were unable to be used.
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If they were to keep up with say Virgin America's config then they shouldn't have any problems winning folks over. Best business seat going around and would look pretty sleek alongside the boeing new interiors.
Surely this is some sort of joke right?
Surely this is some sort of joke right?
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Thanks Keg but as I am crew, I was already aware of that and they were at their lowest level.
I am 175cm by the way.
Give them a try with the seat fully reclined and see if your head is supported.
I have found the wings on the economy seats far better for sleeping.
I am 175cm by the way.
Give them a try with the seat fully reclined and see if your head is supported.
I have found the wings on the economy seats far better for sleeping.
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Hmm. Not sure what you mean UK. I'm 167cm and never had a drama. Oh well. I'm certainly not going to be sticking up for my mob on the basis of this latest offering domestically. 
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Seems that QF is going the European way with regards to J seating, while JB at Virgin is going the other way, 
Don't forget that Alan Joyce started Aer Lingus on the way to the LCC path and EI was kicked out of One World, He will do the same to QF.
Don't forget that Alan Joyce started Aer Lingus on the way to the LCC path and EI was kicked out of One World, He will do the same to QF.
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I thought i read somewhere recently at AJ or BB said that all new A330's would be configured similiar to J*'s A330's so they could be deployed under both logos if required.
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To be sure
Perhaps the aircraft will only last a few months within the QF network before being transferred over to JQ and into the JQ Asian network and that is the reason for less legroom ?
Oh I am sure that there will be a greasy set of mits awaiting bonus payment for this mess.
I wonder who will get a "BONUS" for this Idea ! 
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This is the same seat installed on the new "Jitconnect" 73's. Terrible seat. The foot rest is very limited in function and comfort - there is no lumbar support and the arm rests are quite narrow.
I found it most unappealing when I flew it last week. Fine for working away on a lappy - not fine for trying to get some shut-eye and/or lay back and relax to a movie...
IFE, on the other hand was
I found it most unappealing when I flew it last week. Fine for working away on a lappy - not fine for trying to get some shut-eye and/or lay back and relax to a movie...
IFE, on the other hand was