Expressions of Interest for urinals to be installed in 737 cockpits
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Centaurus, remember your military days and the p*ss tube. The gals use them as well these days. Has the advantage of not needing to unstrap or leave your seat. Incident would not have occurred if these facilities has been in place. teresas daughter may have objections though 
Or perhaps not, as the following from elsewhere on the net,
Or perhaps not, as the following from elsewhere on the net,
Women had an attachment to use in the Prowler with the p*ss tube. Most of the gals in my squadron didn't like using it but they had to in certain circumstances. The funniest was when our gals was flying in the front our XO and she had to go. He was really old fashioned and when she mentioned that she had to go you could hear him cringe. They rigged up a 'screen' with a chart so he wouldn't inadvertently see anything. She really teased him about it the whole time and periodically afterwards at the O Club.
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Incident would not have occurred if these facilities has been in place.
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Centaurus, remember your military days and the p*ss tube.
During the annual Battle of Britain Air Display, the Mustang was used in mock combat between a Lincoln and the Mustang. After the Mustang landed, spectators were shown through the Lincoln and the Mustang. One rather attractive young nubile took her seat in the Mustang and had the workings explained to her by the enthusiastic Mustang pilot (one Centaurus)
The Mustang had a urinal called a "Pissaphone" which was a bell-shape tube that could be dragged out from under the seat (I think) and used for the express purpose of just that.
The nubile who was probably a blonde, saw this contraption and asked what it was for. A moment's silence as Centaurus thought fast then he said it is an intercom system -you talk into it. Whereupon the young woman reached down and pulled the Pissaphone out of its holder and pressing her luscious lips tight into the opening and said "HELLO - ANYONE THERE"
Jeez - I was embarrassed..
It has found its way to the Australian news.
I still have no idea how this is classed as an emergency.
I still have no idea how this is classed as an emergency.
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OMG, The race to the bottom is over, we are there!
Heard J* are trying to poach Air Indias training manager for deployment on their cadetship course, they are liking the short cuts taken to get those new guys into the seat ASAP......
Heard J* are trying to poach Air Indias training manager for deployment on their cadetship course, they are liking the short cuts taken to get those new guys into the seat ASAP......
If an out-of-control jet at 30k wasn't an emergency, I'd like to know what would be!
How does the autopilot disconnecting become and emergency with a qualified pilot sitting at the controls.
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From the story:
The 25-year-old Indian co-pilot told the inquiry he had "got in a panic situation couldn't control the aircraft, neither open the cockpit door and answer the cabin call."
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I chuckle at the thought of what several old bastards I flew with would have done in the same situation. I feel confident in saying that the FO would have had at the very least, a broken jaw and the struggle for control would have been over much sooner.
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I still have no idea how this is classed as an emergency.
Lucky the captain only went for a slash and was not properly incapacitated.
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Slightly off-topic, but one of my mining friends worked in Africa a loooooooooooong time ago, and tells the tale of waiting on board an aircraft prior to takeoff. Finally the pilot appears, and says that the co-pilot is not turning up and he's going to fly the leg alone, anyone who's not happy can get off and wait. No-one gets off, and the flight is uneventful until cruise, when the pilot ties the cockpit door back with elastic, and goes to the loo. A little bit of turbulence, and the cockpit door swings shut - and locked. Out comes the fire axe, and the pilot hacks his way back into the cockpit, watched by the slightly nervous passengers.
Back on-topic - I have no difficulty believing that the AIE FO was so incompetent that he couldn't regain control. There are other threads here about pilots faking their documentation, and management overturning failed checks, and they all ring true. When working in Tokyo a while ago I became friends with a British consular official who had previously worked in India. He said that he saw a huge volume of faked documents from Indians seeking visas. To prove the problem to his sceptical superiors he obtained a fully certified death certificate - for himself, of course. So I'll never fly on an Indian airline. Just one crash can ruin your whole day.
Back on-topic - I have no difficulty believing that the AIE FO was so incompetent that he couldn't regain control. There are other threads here about pilots faking their documentation, and management overturning failed checks, and they all ring true. When working in Tokyo a while ago I became friends with a British consular official who had previously worked in India. He said that he saw a huge volume of faked documents from Indians seeking visas. To prove the problem to his sceptical superiors he obtained a fully certified death certificate - for himself, of course. So I'll never fly on an Indian airline. Just one crash can ruin your whole day.
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Nz Flyboy;
"The Indian air force pilots are highly trained. The RAAF has regular exchange programs for officers with the IAF and vice versa."
I think your info is a little out of date and massively incorrect. Not sure where you get this idea from. The Indians have lost 60 mil aircraft in 3 years with a number of fatalities (yes, not necessarily due to pilot error but cannot be ruled out for some of them).
And exchanges with the IAF?? Ummmmm, no.
"The Indian air force pilots are highly trained. The RAAF has regular exchange programs for officers with the IAF and vice versa."
I think your info is a little out of date and massively incorrect. Not sure where you get this idea from. The Indians have lost 60 mil aircraft in 3 years with a number of fatalities (yes, not necessarily due to pilot error but cannot be ruled out for some of them).
And exchanges with the IAF?? Ummmmm, no.
Come on Rob,
A couple of urban myths here.
I did a bit of check and training on the "dark contintent" some years ago and the Affs were so keen to follow "the rules"!! They were actually tiresome in their pursuit of "the rules" hoping, I suppose, that by following all the rules they would be safe pilots. Totally wrong!!!
I can, however, easily believe that this F/O (for want of a better name for him/her) could be so absolutely incompetent. I spent some time in the area after wearing out my welcome in parts of Africa. Seen quite a few like that and scrubbed a couple, hence my persona non grata status in the sub continent. OTOH, I can sleep nights easily with a clear conscience.
A couple of urban myths here.
I did a bit of check and training on the "dark contintent" some years ago and the Affs were so keen to follow "the rules"!! They were actually tiresome in their pursuit of "the rules" hoping, I suppose, that by following all the rules they would be safe pilots. Totally wrong!!!
I can, however, easily believe that this F/O (for want of a better name for him/her) could be so absolutely incompetent. I spent some time in the area after wearing out my welcome in parts of Africa. Seen quite a few like that and scrubbed a couple, hence my persona non grata status in the sub continent. OTOH, I can sleep nights easily with a clear conscience.
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I spent some time in the area after wearing out my welcome in parts of Africa. Seen quite a few like that and scrubbed a couple, hence my persona non grata status in the sub continent. OTOH, I can sleep nights easily with a clear conscience.
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I think the idea of a hygenic and private toilet in the cockpit is a great idea.
Since 911 I have found leaving the cockpit for a pee a much bigger deal. With the bullet proof door, dead lock etc, if the other pilot decided that they wanted to commit suicide or an act of terrorism, they could easily lock you out of the cockpit. I have the utmost faith in my fellow pilot but I like to cover for unexpected situations (in my mind at least) and being deadlocked outside is one that I can't...so now I don't go unless I am on terra firma.
The cost of a hygenic, private toilet in the front is probably too much, but if it isn't, can we please have a microwave and fridge as well?
Since 911 I have found leaving the cockpit for a pee a much bigger deal. With the bullet proof door, dead lock etc, if the other pilot decided that they wanted to commit suicide or an act of terrorism, they could easily lock you out of the cockpit. I have the utmost faith in my fellow pilot but I like to cover for unexpected situations (in my mind at least) and being deadlocked outside is one that I can't...so now I don't go unless I am on terra firma.
The cost of a hygenic, private toilet in the front is probably too much, but if it isn't, can we please have a microwave and fridge as well?
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if the other pilot decided that they wanted to commit suicide or an act of terrorism, they could easily lock you out of the cockpit
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With the bullet proof door, dead lock etc, if the other pilot decided that they wanted to commit suicide or an act of terrorism, they could easily lock you out of the cockpit. I have the utmost faith in my fellow pilot but I like to cover for unexpected situations (in my mind at least) and being deadlocked outside is one that I can't...
Another reason just in case the remaining pilot becomes incapacitated...