PERTH: It's All Going To Happen...
Road congestion.
Another great example of WAC not spending money on infrastructure is the intersection of Fauntleroy Ave. and Valentine Rd. (Bungana Ave.) This intersection can be a major holdup for people using the services of mining carriers along Valentine Road. At busy periods the traffic chaos here is laughable. The stream of private cars and taxis leaving the terminals cop the worst of it, with cars backed up for 600 metres waiting to leave the airport. With just a stopsign and a busy Fauntleroy Ave. the escape rate is low. A simple round-about could greatly assist the problem. Any action from WAC after years of this problem? Course not!! The issue of turning arrows where Fauntleroy Ave. meets Great Eastern Highway could be addressed by WAC in conjunction with Main Roads. Any action from WAC? Course not! They don't give a stuff. Only real estate deals get any attention from them without Government intervention. The occurrence of a head on collision of vehicles driven by desperate drivers looking for a gap in the oncomming traffic is only a matter of time. No doubt the announcement of the new terminal being ready in a few years time will be the excuse for further 'no action'. I note aviation 'expert' journo GT doesn't ever write articles about congestion at the airport. He just issues the PR press releases for WAC. The only infrastructure WAC has built along Valentine Rd. is cash-cow parking areas.
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I was talking to an airport engineer recently and he thought that Taxiway "C" could be converted into a parallel runway for F100/Bae146 and below aircraft without too much trouble. Surely that would solve the 2,2,3 minute landing limitation and ease departure queues?
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Troy's Da Man!
Third runway is five years away
Geoffrey Thomas Aviation Editor, The West Australian November 23, 2012, 4:57 am
Geoffrey Thomas Aviation Editor, The West Australian November 23, 2012, 4:57 am
Perth Airport has assured the State Government that it is working towards having a third runway operational by late 2017 to future-proof the State's economic development.
Treasurer and Transport Minister Troy Buswell said yesterday he had a constructive meeting with airport chairman David Crawford and chief executive Brad Geatches about building a third runway.
"We now have a timeline and clear performance checkpoints for us to monitor the progress of this runway," Mr Buswell said.
Mr Geatches agreed that the meeting had been constructive.
"Perth Airport is proceeding on a path of design and consultation that would, subject to agreements and approvals, see the third runway delivered by the end of 2017, at the earliest," Mr Geatches said.
Last month, Mr Buswell warned that if the airport did not fast-track the additional runway, the State's development would be impeded.
Over the past five years, passenger numbers through Perth Airport have grown 40 per cent to 12.6 million last year.
Plane movements climbed at a similar rate.
In its 2009 master plan the airport said it did not need to build a third - and second parallel - runway until 2029. "This is a significant bringing-forward of its plans," Mr Buswell said.
But Mr Buswell warned that as part of the process, it was essential that the airport and Airservices Australia adopt every measure available to reduce the area impacted by plane noise. Some estimates suggest that a reduction of 30 to 40 per cent or better of the area affected by noise can be achieved by adopting world best practices.
"This is extremely important and everything should be done to cut the noise," said Mr Buswell.
He said the airport would have concluded preliminary negotiations on the project with airlines by April. It would then spend $60 million on a two-year regulatory approval process that would include the environmental impact.
If approvals were received, construction would start in 2015 after approval from the airlines.
Last week Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese said he had made it known to Perth Airport that there was a need for more runway capacity.
Treasurer and Transport Minister Troy Buswell said yesterday he had a constructive meeting with airport chairman David Crawford and chief executive Brad Geatches about building a third runway.
"We now have a timeline and clear performance checkpoints for us to monitor the progress of this runway," Mr Buswell said.
Mr Geatches agreed that the meeting had been constructive.
"Perth Airport is proceeding on a path of design and consultation that would, subject to agreements and approvals, see the third runway delivered by the end of 2017, at the earliest," Mr Geatches said.
Last month, Mr Buswell warned that if the airport did not fast-track the additional runway, the State's development would be impeded.
Over the past five years, passenger numbers through Perth Airport have grown 40 per cent to 12.6 million last year.
Plane movements climbed at a similar rate.
In its 2009 master plan the airport said it did not need to build a third - and second parallel - runway until 2029. "This is a significant bringing-forward of its plans," Mr Buswell said.
But Mr Buswell warned that as part of the process, it was essential that the airport and Airservices Australia adopt every measure available to reduce the area impacted by plane noise. Some estimates suggest that a reduction of 30 to 40 per cent or better of the area affected by noise can be achieved by adopting world best practices.
"This is extremely important and everything should be done to cut the noise," said Mr Buswell.
He said the airport would have concluded preliminary negotiations on the project with airlines by April. It would then spend $60 million on a two-year regulatory approval process that would include the environmental impact.
If approvals were received, construction would start in 2015 after approval from the airlines.
Last week Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese said he had made it known to Perth Airport that there was a need for more runway capacity.
I note that Geatches' "we can build the third runway in five years" has now changed to "third runway delivered at the end of 2017, AT THE EARLIEST".
Frankly, I'll run naked down St George's Tce if they get the damn thing built in less than ten years.
Frankly, I'll run naked down St George's Tce if they get the damn thing built in less than ten years.
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Well, whenever it's built it wont be anything like one of those flash new Irish runways Melbourne is getting:
Baillieu backs third runway - Yahoo!7 News
"The east-west runway will be 3 kilometres long, 60 kilometres wide and 2 kilometres south of the current east-west runway."
Baillieu backs third runway - Yahoo!7 News
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"Perth Airport is proceeding on a path of design and consultation that would, subject to agreements and approvals, see the third runway delivered by the end of 2017, at the earliest," Mr Geatches said.
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It's all happening!
Glossy aviation liftout in The West today.
The market seems to have re-balanced. Only one QF jet in sight, lots of Virgin and Skywest 737s!
Can't see a long thin "road" to the east of the terminal...
The market seems to have re-balanced. Only one QF jet in sight, lots of Virgin and Skywest 737s!
Can't see a long thin "road" to the east of the terminal...
I think that's because QF domestic is staying on the other side for now.
And yes, one terminal might be great but another runway would be even better.
And yes, one terminal might be great but another runway would be even better.
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You can always guarantee that EK get the best press in the West Australian. Doesn't matter whether it's GT mouthing the industry press releases or Scourfield the travel writer accentuating the positive. EK are OK, but I notice the 'informative' West never gets round to highlighting the chaos that is Dubai airport, nor highlighting its limitations for business travellers wanting something as simple as a shower at the lounge. It's Hicksville stuff.
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@Tecman..... Dubai Chaotic + Hicksville?!?! With no showers??!! Have you ever been to Dubai before? Seriously...
@380. Perth a Redneck Hicksville?! Take it easy big fella...
@380. Perth a Redneck Hicksville?! Take it easy big fella...
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Err..yes, my point was that the uncritical, small town breathlessness from the West Australian was reminiscent of Hicksville.
I travel frequently, and often via Dubai. Dubai airport, with the crazy inbound security for transiting pax, plus the hoards mixing it in narrow, unorganized thoroughfares is indeed chaos. The EK lounges are big, always full, generally OK and the few showers they have are often partly out of action. And it's little better in the first class lounge, where I sometimes end up.
Sorry, SQ, MH and CX do it much better at their respective home bases.
Perth doesn't rate any positive points on my travel scale, I'm afraid.
I travel frequently, and often via Dubai. Dubai airport, with the crazy inbound security for transiting pax, plus the hoards mixing it in narrow, unorganized thoroughfares is indeed chaos. The EK lounges are big, always full, generally OK and the few showers they have are often partly out of action. And it's little better in the first class lounge, where I sometimes end up.
Sorry, SQ, MH and CX do it much better at their respective home bases.
Perth doesn't rate any positive points on my travel scale, I'm afraid.
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I've been to Perth airport too and ... I think they're doing alright.
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Better to work on the mentality of the inbred locals who could do with some driving lessons and pointers on road courtesy.
$500mil upgrade? Will that cut it? Trouble is the government will only throw just enough money at the embarrassment that is a Perth airport arrival. By the time its done it'll be overloaded again in 10 years.
That brochure insert in the West looks like a small mid-western airport in the US. Kinda like the Perth mentality. FFS the Tonkin Hwy needs to be fixed before anything....
That brochure insert in the West looks like a small mid-western airport in the US. Kinda like the Perth mentality. FFS the Tonkin Hwy needs to be fixed before anything....
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FFS the Tonkin Hwy needs to be fixed before anything....
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