Rumour: Sunstate Engineers suspended over aircraft sabotage?
Nothing to do with not being able to attract any LAME's to Bne on lower than GA pay.
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Myself and others have been paid more than that while contracting on GA aircraft. Not in a location like Brisbane or other main centre admittedly.
Those rates seem to be okay for Brisbane... well at least to me.
Those rates seem to be okay for Brisbane... well at least to me.
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Sunny contractors
To all those considering this option - good luck.
$59.00/hr super inc for 2 GRP 20's not that good.
Also shift work inc w/ends.
What sort of bond for courses ? can't have you trained then disappear for more $ now can we.
Sorry still no attraction to go back - enjoying other options less money but greater satisfaction. Being appreciated for my skills and thanked for doing a good job or doing that bit extra.
To all who are still there - Happy New Year and the best to your families.
$59.00/hr super inc for 2 GRP 20's not that good.
Also shift work inc w/ends.
What sort of bond for courses ? can't have you trained then disappear for more $ now can we.
Sorry still no attraction to go back - enjoying other options less money but greater satisfaction. Being appreciated for my skills and thanked for doing a good job or doing that bit extra.
To all who are still there - Happy New Year and the best to your families.
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Inept management
Sunnies remains a basket case. The only management ever hired are management who have been taught by the school of Joyce.
The place has been let go to a deplorable state.
Management hell bent in crucifying engineers, underpaid pilots, experienced frontliners being pushed out the door, contractors that aren't as efficient and the list goes on. Bullying, harassment, 'the paddle pop 6' and how many stick shake incidents in the past 18 months now, a dozen or more? No just culture, a poor reporting culture, fatigue etc etc etc...
The place has been let go to a deplorable state.
Management hell bent in crucifying engineers, underpaid pilots, experienced frontliners being pushed out the door, contractors that aren't as efficient and the list goes on. Bullying, harassment, 'the paddle pop 6' and how many stick shake incidents in the past 18 months now, a dozen or more? No just culture, a poor reporting culture, fatigue etc etc etc...
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QLink/Network
Heard rumour around the brissy base - QLink/Network trying to poach F100 LAME's from Alliance due to expansion. Shafting the people who supplied backup for their routes. Good work guys might as well try shafting everyone, eventually no one left to push around and your job is done.
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Curry in a hurry
Maybe Sunnies will hire direct entry Indian engineers on $3.76 p/h?
That would certainly fit in well within the theme of the QF Group. Plus their tool kits would come standard with items such as paddle pop sticks!
That would certainly fit in well within the theme of the QF Group. Plus their tool kits would come standard with items such as paddle pop sticks!
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Why pay $3.75/hr, when they could do it via Mumbai call centre for $2.00 /hr.
Hello Sir, this is Sam from Sydney what seems to be the problem - the plane is broken, yes. Ok please depower then power back up - has the problem gone away, no. Ok, I will now pass you on to our technical services - Hello this is Brian from Brisbane please tell me the problem - Ok your plane is broken, please depower then power back up - is the problem still there, yes. Ok please hold for engineering services. Hello Mike from Melbourne here, what seems to be the problem, your plane is broken, OK depower then power back up, do you still have a problem yes. Ok we will have to send someone out please hold while we make a booking with a contractor firm to get some real people to you. In the mean time please tell your passengers we have tried everything to get you going and as a last resort we are trying to get some real people to fix it which unfortunately takes time. Have a good day Sir.
Hello Sir, this is Sam from Sydney what seems to be the problem - the plane is broken, yes. Ok please depower then power back up - has the problem gone away, no. Ok, I will now pass you on to our technical services - Hello this is Brian from Brisbane please tell me the problem - Ok your plane is broken, please depower then power back up - is the problem still there, yes. Ok please hold for engineering services. Hello Mike from Melbourne here, what seems to be the problem, your plane is broken, OK depower then power back up, do you still have a problem yes. Ok we will have to send someone out please hold while we make a booking with a contractor firm to get some real people to you. In the mean time please tell your passengers we have tried everything to get you going and as a last resort we are trying to get some real people to fix it which unfortunately takes time. Have a good day Sir.
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Funny! And the short form of this happened to me just the other day.
First flight of the day Bris, caution light wouldn't go away, tried de-powering too, engineer I'd never seen before, first thing he said to me was "de-power" it. Funny thing it didn't work then either. Aircraft swap worked. Thank god for spare aircraft.
Funny! And the short form of this happened to me just the other day.
First flight of the day Bris, caution light wouldn't go away, tried de-powering too, engineer I'd never seen before, first thing he said to me was "de-power" it. Funny thing it didn't work then either. Aircraft swap worked. Thank god for spare aircraft.
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sunnies pay rates
Lets get this straight.. $31hr for a dual cat Lame on 2 group 20 aircraft.
It is double that for contracting with a lower group Airframe licence
. Trust me I know.
The Sunstate (former) Lames are also arguably the most experienced Dash 8 Lames in OZ. Most certainly so for the Q400 as they were the launch Aus customer. They did a great job keeping the aircraft serviceable while management sat on there wallets witholding the correct or suitable tooling to do the job safely and efficiently. Then when it came to a tricky EBA the managers could not control the situation.
Whilst there is no doubt the most of the Lames who have left sunnies are now being paid more for less work and better working hrs then before, it is not money that will keep experienced Lames from working at sunnies long term.....it is the managers......until that is changed, it will remain as stated...a basket case
It is double that for contracting with a lower group Airframe licence
. Trust me I know. The Sunstate (former) Lames are also arguably the most experienced Dash 8 Lames in OZ. Most certainly so for the Q400 as they were the launch Aus customer. They did a great job keeping the aircraft serviceable while management sat on there wallets witholding the correct or suitable tooling to do the job safely and efficiently. Then when it came to a tricky EBA the managers could not control the situation.
Whilst there is no doubt the most of the Lames who have left sunnies are now being paid more for less work and better working hrs then before, it is not money that will keep experienced Lames from working at sunnies long term.....it is the managers......until that is changed, it will remain as stated...a basket case
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Up dates any one !
Has this thread gone the way of the engineer's they once had.
Seems there were some outstanding issues, have these to been resolved with the coming of the almighty contractors.
Any news of the court case or has that too been put in the "TOO HARD" basket.
I hear through the grapevine the incompetants are now trying to build back up to pre - dispute numbers. But it will all be different now as those rascally engineers we used to have are all gone bye bye and no matter how desperate we are we will never have them back because they know too much !
the **** floats high on thick muddy water.
Seems there were some outstanding issues, have these to been resolved with the coming of the almighty contractors.
Any news of the court case or has that too been put in the "TOO HARD" basket.
I hear through the grapevine the incompetants are now trying to build back up to pre - dispute numbers. But it will all be different now as those rascally engineers we used to have are all gone bye bye and no matter how desperate we are we will never have them back because they know too much !
the **** floats high on thick muddy water.
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Still waiting on the outcome of the Fed Court case. Has been about 4 months.
A stack of complaints about certain illegitimate maintenance practices went in to CASA this week. They may be able to brush aside an occasional complaint here or there but lets see how they handle a dozen at once.
Freedom of Information regarding the Qantaslink Ops also submitted last week.
A stack of complaints about certain illegitimate maintenance practices went in to CASA this week. They may be able to brush aside an occasional complaint here or there but lets see how they handle a dozen at once.
Freedom of Information regarding the Qantaslink Ops also submitted last week.
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Rumour has it that Q stink have employed 8 LAME contractors with multiple AME’s to a total of 26 with current employees, I thought that once a company made redundancies that they couldn’t reinstate other employees or contractors to replace those positions for a minimum of 12 months, so once again Qantas showing total disregard for Australian law!!! 
Not that FWA give a crap!
Not that FWA give a crap!
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Rumour has it that -
I hear Sunnies being evicted from H2 but are relocating to where Strategic/Air Aus was leasing. No wonder they are looking for people - ramp maintenance back up.
We all knew they couldn't survive shifting aircraft empty for checks out of Brissy.
For crying out load Brissy is a major hub with lots of o/nighting aircraft and not being able to carry out maint was just a joke.
Still a **** place to work, no improvement and still haven't resolved a single issue.
We all knew they couldn't survive shifting aircraft empty for checks out of Brissy.
For crying out load Brissy is a major hub with lots of o/nighting aircraft and not being able to carry out maint was just a joke.
Still a **** place to work, no improvement and still haven't resolved a single issue.
I thought that once a company made redundancies that they couldn’t reinstate other employees or contractors to replace those positions for a minimum of 12 months
At the time i wrote a letter to Kumar explaining that the base couldn't function with less than 6 LAMEs, as had been proven in about 2002 when they went down to 4 LAMEs.
Of course Qantas Link management know best - which explains why they can only staff Canberra with contractors, Sydney are very short (emails form the boos pleading if staff know anyone who wants to work in Sydney) and Brisbane complete basket case as has been detailed in this thread.