Merged: Joe Eakins: Brave?....or....
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Money where my mouth is!
So a challenge to all you folk out there who have not donated and are not pilots or LAME's.........at some point your backside is in an RPT aircraft and its time to put your money where your mouth is. I have just tossed a good donation at both the funds tonight because its worth it.
As to the QF group who have had my loyal and company loyal support for some time.....Its Over. despite some of my close friends being C&T's at JQ and other retired folks at QF, and other good mates at QFlink currently, there is no more loyalty including the several hundred thousand FF points I have having burned most this year.
My company travel is now going to be directed elsewhere where practical rather than the other way around. If Mr Borg gets a few thousand business folk like me thinking this way he will be on a winner.
Enough is enough.
J
As to the QF group who have had my loyal and company loyal support for some time.....Its Over. despite some of my close friends being C&T's at JQ and other retired folks at QF, and other good mates at QFlink currently, there is no more loyalty including the several hundred thousand FF points I have having burned most this year.
My company travel is now going to be directed elsewhere where practical rather than the other way around. If Mr Borg gets a few thousand business folk like me thinking this way he will be on a winner.
Enough is enough.
J
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Oh dear how little you know sonny, let's just leave it at that, I do not have any vendetta against the so called @ 3800 or whatever, Remember in Nazi Germany the public went by rules and look where it got them. You keep typing while I keep acting, and oh how you have no idea about the behind scenes action over this matter. A deer with no eyes I guess! NOIDEA! Ok now back to the real work!
And of all the info at hand Joe will win in the courts. Time will vindicate him.
Oh dear how little you know sonny, let's just leave it at that, I do not have any vendetta against the so called @ 3800 or whatever, Remember in Nazi Germany the public went by rules and look where it got them. You keep typing while I keep acting, and oh how you have no idea about the behind scenes action over this matter. A deer with no eyes I guess! NOIDEA! Ok now back to the real work!
And of all the info at hand Joe will win in the courts. Time will vindicate him.
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Just wanted to add my FULL support to Joe and what he has stated and been willing to risk for OUR greater good. And from reading a few posts I’m not sure that some people realise that Joe was not just voicing his own opinion as a one man band, but rather acting in his role as a pilot Representative (which his article states at the end) for AIPA. I find it hard to see that under those circumstances he can be charged with a breach of the code of conduct whilst representing the voice of the Jetstar pilot group. If this is the case we can say goodbye to employees (who are an elected representative or the like) standing up and trying to fight for anything come EBA negotiations or any industrial related matter, without fear of losing their jobs. Fear and intimidation by a scared and spineless management must not be allowed to continue. We have the momentum and public figure now to fight for that. Let’s all get behind this!
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short flights long nights
now I am scared..really really scared...this man has no idea at all....
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I find it hard to see that under those circumstances he can be charged with a breach of the code of conduct whilst representing the voice of the Jetstar pilot group
I suspect there is a little more to Joe's sacking than meets the eye. If the TV report is to be believed Joe rejected the J* offer of arbitration so they have kept it very simple, from the legal point of view. J* have invoked the age old pilot's contractual clause that no employee shall contact the press without prior company approval and no employee shall bring the company into disrepute. From a purely legal point of view it is game, set and match to J*. I would have thought.
Perhaps the arbitration offer can be reinstated, though I doubt he will get his job back, more likely a cash settlement out of court/tribunal.
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That chief pilot has a long history with regard to NOT standing up for the good of pilots,just one of many nails in the coffin from him.I hope when he retires he can reflect on all the carnage he has caused in the industry.
You've got my donation Joe!
You've got my donation Joe!
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David Hall really needs to get his ears fixed, perhaps this is the reason he cant hear the concerns of the JQ pilots.
Can someone tell me where to send money to Joe, although I'm only a PPL I reckon he has balls of steel, if only there were more of him the industry would be much better off.
I'm also going to write a letter to DH (Yes I do mean it) to let him know how disgusted I am with the contempt he is showing to both the travelling public and the people who are at the helm of the airliners they have to travel on.
To all the JQ pilots reading this thread it's about time some more of you stepped up to the plate and spoke out in support of Joe and the cause you should all be fighting as one.
To any JQ management reading this, let's not bull**** each other, your number one concern is company profit to satisfy the shareholder, it's only because of pilots like Joe Eakins and his collegues keeping it safe up there that you have not been exposed for the fraud you are, keep digging away at it though and exposure is imminent.
Can someone tell me where to send money to Joe, although I'm only a PPL I reckon he has balls of steel, if only there were more of him the industry would be much better off.
I'm also going to write a letter to DH (Yes I do mean it) to let him know how disgusted I am with the contempt he is showing to both the travelling public and the people who are at the helm of the airliners they have to travel on.
To all the JQ pilots reading this thread it's about time some more of you stepped up to the plate and spoke out in support of Joe and the cause you should all be fighting as one.
To any JQ management reading this, let's not bull**** each other, your number one concern is company profit to satisfy the shareholder, it's only because of pilots like Joe Eakins and his collegues keeping it safe up there that you have not been exposed for the fraud you are, keep digging away at it though and exposure is imminent.
Excuse me, but why is the CEO of Jetstar NZ doing the talking? Where's Buchanan? Hiding under a rock somewhere?
As for Cheif Pilots! A good dose of Weasle DNA seems to be a prerequesite. I've only ever seen one stand up for his principals and those of his pilots. Jerry McGowan had him summarily dismissed more than 10 years ago. He has since moved on to better things, Bravo Quentin.
Joe, you have the heart of a Lion. Hang in there mate. Money sent, hope it helps.
As for Cheif Pilots! A good dose of Weasle DNA seems to be a prerequesite. I've only ever seen one stand up for his principals and those of his pilots. Jerry McGowan had him summarily dismissed more than 10 years ago. He has since moved on to better things, Bravo Quentin.
Joe, you have the heart of a Lion. Hang in there mate. Money sent, hope it helps.
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That chief pilot has a long history with regard to NOT standing up for the good of pilots,just one of many nails in the coffin from him.I hope when he retires he can reflect on all the carnage he has caused in the industry.
" Ol XXXX would be turning over in his grave if he had any idea of what filth he had sitting beside him when these bas*ards were first officers. But then, those were the days when Chief Pilot's had character and enormous pride in their profession and the pilot's they managed".
Just about sums it all up. The day a so called Chief Pilot sits beside a CEO in a press conference condoning such sacking of a young pilot with 30 odd years of career ahead of him, is a sad and tragic day for the aviation industry.
Shame Shame Shame. Where is Darren Hinch when you need him!
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The Street is quoting your Sydney Hearld.
Pilot's lies led to sacking. Jetstar says one of its pilots spread so many lies about the company that it had no choice but to fire him.