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Sorry Thorny, have to disagree. Creamy and Leadie (no offence intended)
although knowledgeable, don't have enough bulldog in them
although knowledgeable, don't have enough bulldog in them
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Thanks Lookyloo, appreciate your compliment Modesty is certainly one of my more robust traits! I have considered forming the IOS Party and entering the Senate, seeing that bulldoggishness (new word) is a prerequisite. However I am not patient enough to polish the turd for long periods of time, and I fear that turd polishing would be a partial requirement of the position, so it probably rules me out.
Modesty is certainly one of my more robust traits! I have considered forming the IOS Party and entering the Senate, seeing that bulldoggishness (new word) is a prerequisite. However I am not patient enough to polish the turd for long periods of time, and I fear that turd polishing would be a partial requirement of the position, so it probably rules me out.
As I've said elsewhere, lobby who you like but press the jobs,growth and investment buttons each time and present as a positive person with good ideas to make the country better.
Elaborate Tales of grievances, injustice and unfairness, no matter how real, will simply get you labelled as a whiner, especially if you wave an AAT case in their face and invite them to read it. They don't have the time to right all your wrongs.
Elaborate Tales of grievances, injustice and unfairness, no matter how real, will simply get you labelled as a whiner, especially if you wave an AAT case in their face and invite them to read it. They don't have the time to right all your wrongs.
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Popcorn and buzzards
Frank, are you talking about financial bureaucratic waste or the individuals who themselves constitute 'bureaucratic waste'?
I heard something of interest last night and it was that the buzzards are circling FF now that a new regime has been elected. Allegedly Dr Quinn Medicine Man, Sargent Shultz Bromley and one R.Collins are keen to get a seat at the CAsA trough, so it might provide interesting viewing from the sidelines.
Beer and popcorn anyone??
I heard something of interest last night and it was that the buzzards are circling FF now that a new regime has been elected. Allegedly Dr Quinn Medicine Man, Sargent Shultz Bromley and one R.Collins are keen to get a seat at the CAsA trough, so it might provide interesting viewing from the sidelines.
Beer and popcorn anyone??
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004, yes new DAS so people will be angling for role. Bring about transformational change and complete regulatory reform!
If Mr Q gets in Pel Air will get a dust off.
If Mr Q gets in Pel Air will get a dust off.
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I highly doubt whether any of the above mentioned would even be interested. The main issue is to get rid of the voodoo witch doctor. He is largely responsible for the regulatory mess. The other execs have been passengers on his 20 flight!
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Jinglie, very very true. Now we are getting to the 'root cause'. DAS's come and go, but the Witchdoctor has spent decades at the trough. Regs are his 'personal playground' in which he gets to play aviation god.
What is required is a clean sweep, ditch the lot of them, and that includes the test pilot with the dodgy ticker.
This wll test the metal of Warrens Trust
Will be interesting to see if, with the backing of Banana Hammock Abbott, he has the fortitude to enter Sleepy Hollow and wield the robust axe.
What is required is a clean sweep, ditch the lot of them, and that includes the test pilot with the dodgy ticker.
This wll test the metal of Warrens Trust
Will be interesting to see if, with the backing of Banana Hammock Abbott, he has the fortitude to enter Sleepy Hollow and wield the robust axe.
He is largely responsible for the regulatory mess
Completely wrong, the good Dr. has had very little to do with the problems of the stop/start attempts at reform, or the "reform" program.
Remember, he hasn't worked in the CASA legal branch for quite a while. Even when he was there, he played little or no part in the "reform" program. He has been mostly involved with the Sports and Recreational areas, and all the associations involved are actually very happy with his efforts ---- one of the few bright spots in the overall aviation scene.
Any pretense at reform, as oppose to a vast expansion of of highly prescriptive regulations, all criminal law, was abandoned years ago.
As the latest description says: "regulate to the greatest possible extent".
Blame the right targets, and there is plenty of blame to go around.
How does that old military adage about command go: Assign blame, take the credit, shoot the wounded.
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Leadie, your last post has to be a wind up, yes?
If not, you have either lost the plot or a hangar door has recently hit you in the head, your post couldn't be further from the truth
The 'good doctor' is very very much involved in every decision made at Sleepy Hollow.
If not, you have either lost the plot or a hangar door has recently hit you in the head, your post couldn't be further from the truth
The 'good doctor' is very very much involved in every decision made at Sleepy Hollow.
004,
On the level of influence he has on the "regulatory reform program", we will have to differ.
I don't query that he is involved in signing off, as part of the hilariously named "management team", and I will give you that he was personally involved in and responsible for one small piece of regulatory change -- that has had a very negative impact on FAAOC holders or applicants, but even that "policy" was pressed upon him.
He does not prepare, or sign off on, the drafting instructions that go to Office of Parliamentary Counsel, and in earlier times, the OLDP at A-Gs. You need another target there!!
On the level of influence he has on the "regulatory reform program", we will have to differ.
I don't query that he is involved in signing off, as part of the hilariously named "management team", and I will give you that he was personally involved in and responsible for one small piece of regulatory change -- that has had a very negative impact on FAAOC holders or applicants, but even that "policy" was pressed upon him.
He does not prepare, or sign off on, the drafting instructions that go to Office of Parliamentary Counsel, and in earlier times, the OLDP at A-Gs. You need another target there!!
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Yep, good point he doesn't ultimately own the reg, but he does sign off on it. If you read the industry papers he has delivered over the years you can't deny he was a driver in the regulatory mess you are in.
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Also, wouldn't it be grand if The Minister for Bad Teeth had been asked about his lack of interest/action on the Senate Report? The IoSS Reason/Quinn will be following up no doubt. I hear 4 Corners are also keen. It's a shame the media runs aviation safety in this country.
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Discussion about power, glory, faceless men con't.....
A succession of DAS/CEO/Head Hocho's/Big Chief's/Chief Executive Nupty, whatever silly titles they wish to apply at Fort Fumble, have been hoodwinked, manipulated, ever so gently coerced and craftily steered, obviously by somebody who is intelligent, articulate, quiet and diplomatic and has obviously worked there for a long time and been granted reasonable powers for a long time as well, a 'seemingly' nice guy. Could it be a sinister force from the dark side, some kind of wizard or a magic practising priest?
I wonder, no I muse, no I hypothesise as to whom that person might just be........
I wonder, no I muse, no I hypothesise as to whom that person might just be........
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Trying to remember who is there these days, but I have in mind that there is someone else in the CAsA senior management group that has been around for some time. Can't remember his name 
but shorter, glasses, and baldish with a smile like a gerbil. Keeps a low profile but was in charge of developing standards when I was last involved and likes the odd bit of travel.
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but shorter, glasses, and baldish with a smile like a gerbil. Keeps a low profile but was in charge of developing standards when I was last involved and likes the odd bit of travel.CF
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Franks Burden, there are a number of trough dwellers working at Malfunction Junction who have gerbil like smiles and the personality of a sea serpent, so it is hard to decipher just who you are referring to?
However, just to jog your memory and without implicating these gentlemen in any way, shape or form, some of the more long term executives at Fort Fumble are;
- Mr Boyd took his seat at the Fort Fumble round table in 1999,
- Mr Farquharson commenced his tenure at the gravy train of choice, CAsA, in 1999,
- Mr Aleck was awarded employment at the not so robust regulator in 1993, and toddled off to ICAO from 1998 - 2003 for a stint at the 'Holy Grail of aviation troughs'.
In all they have had approximately 43 years worth of combined service at Sleepy Hollow. Each has been involved in some capacity with the regulatory reform program as well.
Footnote: Although Mr Aleck spent 5 years at ICAO it could be debated that he had no affiliation, contact, influence or dealings with CAsA during that time period. If you were to add those 5 years to the sum total you would get 48 years of combined CAsA service.
One could hypothesise as to how much time has been spent indulging in trough like piggery during those 48 years, but that is not the role of a mere aviation peasant, aka IOS such as myself to scrutinise, calculate or quantify.
However, just to jog your memory and without implicating these gentlemen in any way, shape or form, some of the more long term executives at Fort Fumble are;
- Mr Boyd took his seat at the Fort Fumble round table in 1999,
- Mr Farquharson commenced his tenure at the gravy train of choice, CAsA, in 1999,
- Mr Aleck was awarded employment at the not so robust regulator in 1993, and toddled off to ICAO from 1998 - 2003 for a stint at the 'Holy Grail of aviation troughs'.
In all they have had approximately 43 years worth of combined service at Sleepy Hollow. Each has been involved in some capacity with the regulatory reform program as well.
Footnote: Although Mr Aleck spent 5 years at ICAO it could be debated that he had no affiliation, contact, influence or dealings with CAsA during that time period. If you were to add those 5 years to the sum total you would get 48 years of combined CAsA service.
One could hypothesise as to how much time has been spent indulging in trough like piggery during those 48 years, but that is not the role of a mere aviation peasant, aka IOS such as myself to scrutinise, calculate or quantify.
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004, wasn't this discussion had in the inquiry or estimates?
It was like a visit to school head. Claims they weren't there at time, doing different jobs. Bigger boys from different school made them do it but they ran away.
It was like a visit to school head. Claims they weren't there at time, doing different jobs. Bigger boys from different school made them do it but they ran away.
004 it was the first one you named.
He was the senior manager responsible for the new regulations for some time when I came across him. Surprised he is still there given the snail pace of the regulatory program!!!
But then again, when the rice bowl is continually replenished there is no need to hurry the meal.
So, who is the responsible senior manager for the regulatory changes today?
FB
He was the senior manager responsible for the new regulations for some time when I came across him. Surprised he is still there given the snail pace of the regulatory program!!!
But then again, when the rice bowl is continually replenished there is no need to hurry the meal.
So, who is the responsible senior manager for the regulatory changes today?
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Halfmanfulltimtam, correct you are sir. Please award yourself 2 chocolate frogs for remaining awake in class
Mr Farquharson said he was over in the West, Mr Boyd (the one with the Gerbil grin) said he had only just started in 1999 so he wasn't responsible, and Mr Aleck said it wasn't him because he was in Montreal!
Funny thing is that if CAsA accurately documented and maintained all project files, expenditures, minutes from meetings etc etc (as they expect industry to do) you wouldn't have so many people ducking for cover, it would be an easy process to access TRIM or that other silly program that a mate of one of the DAS trio introduced, and review who made what decisions and should be held accountable.
Anyway, 25 years and a quarter of a billion dollars later and we have jacks#it to show for it. No wonder certain individuals work for CAsA, no proper organisation would hire them with that mess on their CV.
Herr Frank, you burden me by asking many questions my friend. But hey, I like you, you seem like a nice guy and a decent hard working IOS member
So, during the senate inquiry many robust questions were raised about the (lack of) regulatory reform program, asked by the senators. Fort Fumbles mountain was removed and as a result exposed they now were, so a sacrificial lamb was required. The three old codgers handed the poison chalice to the hooded one and poor Hoody was sent packing to Canberra. The steaming reg reform mound of manure now had a new owner. But alas the hooded one jumped over the rails of the S.S Titanic knowing that the buzzards were circling.
But who owns the task now? Good question as I have no idea at all dear friend. I am not part of the iron ring. The three old fella's aren't capable of doing it, Herr Campbell isn't doing it, I believe Herr Cromarty way have been sized up for the job but found to be inadequate, so maybe 'he who has a gerbil like grin' will be tasked with the insurmountable task? Perhaps a crusty old FOI or Flyingfiend will step up to the plate and throw their hand in the ring? Maybe R.Collins or the drunk will return? Or maybe a SSI or Cabin Inspector will achieve what no other before them has been able to do - Regulatory reform!!!
Stay tuned for the next chess game move c/o the iron ring and GWM!
Mr Farquharson said he was over in the West, Mr Boyd (the one with the Gerbil grin) said he had only just started in 1999 so he wasn't responsible, and Mr Aleck said it wasn't him because he was in Montreal!
Funny thing is that if CAsA accurately documented and maintained all project files, expenditures, minutes from meetings etc etc (as they expect industry to do) you wouldn't have so many people ducking for cover, it would be an easy process to access TRIM or that other silly program that a mate of one of the DAS trio introduced, and review who made what decisions and should be held accountable.
Anyway, 25 years and a quarter of a billion dollars later and we have jacks#it to show for it. No wonder certain individuals work for CAsA, no proper organisation would hire them with that mess on their CV.
Herr Frank, you burden me by asking many questions my friend. But hey, I like you, you seem like a nice guy and a decent hard working IOS member
So, during the senate inquiry many robust questions were raised about the (lack of) regulatory reform program, asked by the senators. Fort Fumbles mountain was removed and as a result exposed they now were, so a sacrificial lamb was required. The three old codgers handed the poison chalice to the hooded one and poor Hoody was sent packing to Canberra. The steaming reg reform mound of manure now had a new owner. But alas the hooded one jumped over the rails of the S.S Titanic knowing that the buzzards were circling.
But who owns the task now? Good question as I have no idea at all dear friend. I am not part of the iron ring. The three old fella's aren't capable of doing it, Herr Campbell isn't doing it, I believe Herr Cromarty way have been sized up for the job but found to be inadequate, so maybe 'he who has a gerbil like grin' will be tasked with the insurmountable task? Perhaps a crusty old FOI or Flyingfiend will step up to the plate and throw their hand in the ring? Maybe R.Collins or the drunk will return? Or maybe a SSI or Cabin Inspector will achieve what no other before them has been able to do - Regulatory reform!!!
Stay tuned for the next chess game move c/o the iron ring and GWM!
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004, you can't be serious. He was up to his neck in Trans Air and it continued with Trans AirPNG until his mate Les Wright (RIP)ended up in a fatal in PNG landing an aircraft not suitable for the strip. PNG CASA FOI also onboard (RIP).
Not good enough for the job of fixing this sorry state, in my view.
Not good enough for the job of fixing this sorry state, in my view.