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Old 17th Mar 2011, 01:30
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Ta Kelpie,
That doesn't seem quite right does it.
Seems like he wants to give certain answers to certain questions without all us industry folk having the opportunity to call him on the untruths and half-truths. The problem is that the senators can't spot the bullsh1t as easily as us because their knowledge of the industry is not as intimate. Not their fault at all, it's just a complex field.
Is there a way of gaining the transcript through the 'freedom of information act' or similar?
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 01:34
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As per:
Parliament of Australia: House of Representatives: Appearing as a witness at a parliamentary committee hearing

In camera (private) hearings


If before the hearing a witness considers that information to be provided by the witness or requested by the committee is confidential, the witness can request that the evidence be heard in camera. If the request is granted by the committee, the public and media will be excluded from the hearing. The Chair or any member of the committee also may request that the hearing be in camera, particularly if the evidence adversely reflects on a third person or is subject to legal proceedings.

While in camera evidence is treated as secret when it is heard, the committee has the power to publish the evidence at a later date if the circumstances warrant such action. If the committee gives an undertaking to the witness that in camera evidence will not be disclosed, such evidence would only be released by the committee with the written agreement of the witness.



The big question, though. Hasn't the hearing already begun wrt Joyce and Buchanan's statements?
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 01:45
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Thanks.
I think that any questions or answers that are not classified as confidential or [QUOTE adversely reflects on a third person or is subject to legal proceedings.QUOTE] need to be answered in a open manner for all to hear then. Hopefully the senators will demand this.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 01:54
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Exactly framer. It's hard to imagine what sort of information the respective gentlemen are trying to protect from the public domain.
Perhaps the competitors like emirates and cathay are waiting with bated breath for the secrets of running airline businesses from the smartest guys in the room.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 01:54
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Just rang Parliment House and spoke to the girl putting together the program. Details should be on the website by tonite, and procedings start at 0945 tomorrow, finishing up at 1600. Public gallery will be open. Park in the public carpark in the lower level, enter the main marble foyer and ask for directions to Committe room 2S3.

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Old 17th Mar 2011, 01:59
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Cheers Krusty.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 02:06
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the smartest guys in the room.
If the truth be known, that would surely be the case. The Senate has produced little to suggest that there is an abundance of intelligence in the place.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 02:11
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Any chance of a website link. Cheers
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 03:12
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Parliament of Australia: Live Broadcasting
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 04:42
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Laws iTunes timestamps

I put the timestamps for the relevant parts of the Laws show for 15 March 11 below.

iTunes is the easiest 2SM: John Laws Highlights - Download free podcast episodes by 2SM 1269AM Sydney on iTunes.

Laws intro 46:37

Woodward 47:58

Kate 1:01:17

Tim 1:14:40

Joyce 1:31:00

I couldn't find Ken Borough's email being read out.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 04:43
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Hold the bulk order of popcorn.... the QF delegation may not be turning up tomorrow??!
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 04:58
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You're joking, I just bought one of those pop corn makers that HOYTS and GREATER UNION use.

Tickets selling fast and now I've got to give a refund?
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 05:02
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I couldn't find Ken Borough's email being read out.
It was obviously a lowlight!
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 05:14
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Yeah sorry Mr H. Source confirms and apparently the Senators are a tad peeved.

Hopefully they may still show, but not at the moment.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 05:31
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Does anyone know if JB is appearing or scheduled to turn up in the future?

Lets hope the Senators have some balls to take the fight to all and sundry who choose to have a battle.

Seems the Rat do want to fight the whole world, so it must be a strategy.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 05:44
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According to the Schedule they are not!!

9:45 am
Virgin Blue
Mr John Borghetti, Chief Executive Officer
Mr Sean Donohue, Group Executive Operations
Ms Jane McKeon, Group Executive Government Relations
Mr Rick Howell, General Manager, Flight Operations
Mr Mike Hockin, General Manager, Engineering
Mr Stuart Aggs, Acting General Manager, Safety Systems
Mr Stuart Haynes, Manager, Flight Standards
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11:15 pm
Mr Stephen Phillips [via teleconference]
Private capacity
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12:00 pm
Lunch
12:45 pm
Australian and International Pilots Association
Captain Richard Woodward, Vice President
Captain Dick Mackerras, Safety and Technical Consultant
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1: 45pm
CASA
Mr John McCormick, Director of Aviation Safety
Mr Terence Farquharson, Deputy Director of Aviation Safety
Dr Jonathon Aleck, Associate Director of Aviation Safety
Mr Roger Crosthwaite, Manager, Permission Application Centre
Mr Peter Boyd, Executive Manager, Standards Division
Mr Greg Hood, Executive Manager, Operations Division
Mr Grant Mazowita, Manager, Standards Development
Mr Nicholas Ward, Manager, Certification and Airworthiness
ATSB
Mr Martin Dolan, Commissioner
Mr Patrick Hornby, Manager, Legal Services
Mr Julian Walsh, General Manager, Strategic Capability
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 05:50
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Contempt of the Senate and remedies for contempt



When the actions of a witness or another person influencing a witness have the effect of obstructing the inquiries of a Senate committee (or future inquiries), those actions may be treated as contempts. Examples of such offences include:
  • Refusing without reasonable excuse to answer a question;
  • Giving false or misleading evidence;
  • Failing to attend or to produce documents when required to do so;
  • Intimidation of a witness;
  • Adverse treatment of a witness;
  • Wilfully disturbing a committee while it is meeting.
The Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 provides that a House of Parliament may impose terms of imprisonment or substantial fines for individuals and corporations as a penalty for contempt. To date the Senate has not had occasion to use either of these penalties, preferring an educative and preventative approach. The Senate has accepted apologies and remedial action, and has encouraged government officials in particular to attend training courses on the rights and obligations of witnesses before parliamentary committees.
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 06:09
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Dear Alan and Bruce

I know things are difficult for you at the moment and that all your dirty little secrets are about to be exposed for the whole of Australia and the World to see. But honestly you will feel much better once it is all out in the open!!!

A problem shared is indeed a problem halved!!!

YOU MY FRIENDS ARE THE PROBLEM!!!

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Old 17th Mar 2011, 06:18
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Let 4 corners know if they indeed don't turn up

Hopefully they may still show, but not at the moment.
Suggest 4 Corners would be interested if they don't show, it would be a shot in the arm for the cause me thinks..
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Old 17th Mar 2011, 07:01
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Perhaps an addendum to the upcoming Monday night story?
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