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Go John Laws, Joyce is making an arse of himself....he sounded a bit nervous to me!!!
.....well more spin!!!
So now Joyce admits that Jetstar Asia and Vietnam are regulated by the Singapore CAA. So Senator, not good speaking to CASA and the ATSB then - despite them flying VH registered aircraft!!!
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.....well more spin!!!
So now Joyce admits that Jetstar Asia and Vietnam are regulated by the Singapore CAA. So Senator, not good speaking to CASA and the ATSB then - despite them flying VH registered aircraft!!!
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Having heard Kate's drivel, I wonder if she's a stooge. Her knowledge was supoerficial, effort was abysmal and was prepared to gild the lily on some points. Red neck radio is alive an well. 
The problem for AIPA is that hardly anyone listens to 2SM and John Laws: Laws' attitudes, like that of the pilots industrial campaign, is out of touch with reality.
The problem for AIPA is that hardly anyone listens to 2SM and John Laws: Laws' attitudes, like that of the pilots industrial campaign, is out of touch with reality.
Tiger,
Not at all - I wouldn't waste my money!!!
McG50,
2SM mainstream media? Yer joking, I hope. 2SM does not even feature in the Nielson rating surveys which measures listening audience. I suspect that it's SYD's lowest ranking station with OAPs being the typical listener. As for John Laws, he's as stale as the spilled beer you smell at the local pub! And he USED to be on a Qantas retainer in years past.
Not at all - I wouldn't waste my money!!!
McG50,
2SM mainstream media? Yer joking, I hope. 2SM does not even feature in the Nielson rating surveys which measures listening audience. I suspect that it's SYD's lowest ranking station with OAPs being the typical listener. As for John Laws, he's as stale as the spilled beer you smell at the local pub! And he USED to be on a Qantas retainer in years past.
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Good to see some "balance" in the debate Ken 
, but I don't think Kate is the stooge here!
As for Joyce's drivel, and that was the real drivel, it's a shame that Lawsie' didn't ask the right questions. Perhaps he should have a good chat with his "Family member".
, but I don't think Kate is the stooge here!As for Joyce's drivel, and that was the real drivel, it's a shame that Lawsie' didn't ask the right questions. Perhaps he should have a good chat with his "Family member".
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Ken, Joyce did speak to Laws!
The problem for AIPA is that hardly anyone listens to 2SM and John Laws: Laws' attitudes,
Laws maybe on a low rating radio station, however, he has just returned and I suspect f lot of his old listeners have returned with him, and regardless of their demographics, the topic is becoming warmer, warmer warmer..............
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Are you sure Ken?
Laws read out an email from "Ken Borough" saying that Laws should not listen to "Drivel" from a Qantas Captains wife wanting to protect terms and conditions which are 20 years out of date etc etc.
Same name, same viewpoint and even the same word (Drivel) as you just used.
Coincidence? I think not.
Laws read out an email from "Ken Borough" saying that Laws should not listen to "Drivel" from a Qantas Captains wife wanting to protect terms and conditions which are 20 years out of date etc etc.
Same name, same viewpoint and even the same word (Drivel) as you just used.
Coincidence? I think not.
I didn't get airtime as I didn't call. Laws may have chosen to read an email from me but I don't know. Nor do I care. I went back to the ABC after a couple of minutes of cr@p from the pilots wife. Is there now another demographic like "Doctors' Wives"? I don't mind debate but when it's so unbalanced I just tune out.
Why the AIPA bloke got airtime is beyond me. I would keep him flying and get a professional spin-doctor on the job as he didn't advance your cause an ounce of good IMHO.
Why the AIPA bloke got airtime is beyond me. I would keep him flying and get a professional spin-doctor on the job as he didn't advance your cause an ounce of good IMHO.
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Ken, you're telling fibs again!
Were you so disinterested in Lawsie's program that you tracked down his email address and fired off an email? Is that what you are telling us?
Did you sent the email before or after you told AJ that he had better call the program to respond?
After listening to AJ, do you think he needs a professional spin-doctor too? Or was little Ms W putting out bush fires elsewhere in the media at the time?
Did you sent the email before or after you told AJ that he had better call the program to respond?
After listening to AJ, do you think he needs a professional spin-doctor too? Or was little Ms W putting out bush fires elsewhere in the media at the time?
33,
No, not telling fibs at all. I listened to Laws after having been told what was expected to be broadcast. He actually gave his email address on air so anyone could have written a repsonse to what was said. And no, I didn't hear AJ as I had moved on to the ABC, and if you follow PPRUNE you will see that I've been very critical of Qanrtas' PR efforts. Alan certainly does need a professional spin-doctor as much damage has already been inflicted on the Comapny as a result of poor media management.
GB - I'm my own person and certainly not a stooge for Management.
No, not telling fibs at all. I listened to Laws after having been told what was expected to be broadcast. He actually gave his email address on air so anyone could have written a repsonse to what was said. And no, I didn't hear AJ as I had moved on to the ABC, and if you follow PPRUNE you will see that I've been very critical of Qanrtas' PR efforts. Alan certainly does need a professional spin-doctor as much damage has already been inflicted on the Comapny as a result of poor media management.
GB - I'm my own person and certainly not a stooge for Management.
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Safety is our first priority
LH are scanning aircraft for radioactivity, guess what the QF / JQ response was?
THIS COMPANY IS A JOKE!!!
LH are scanning aircraft for radioactivity, guess what the QF / JQ response was?
Jetstar, which is still operating flights in and out of Japan, said it was not specifically scanning planes for signs of radioactivity.
"From our perspective, we are continuing safe operations to and from Japan and closely monitoring the situation," a Jetstar spokesperson told Australian Business Traveller.
Qantas said it was not required to scan its planes for radioactivity.
"It is European policy for aircraft to be tested. We are monitoring the situation very closely and meeting all Australian Government requirements. Should this change, we will continue to meet all government requirements," spokesman Simon Rushton said.
"From our perspective, we are continuing safe operations to and from Japan and closely monitoring the situation," a Jetstar spokesperson told Australian Business Traveller.
Qantas said it was not required to scan its planes for radioactivity.
"It is European policy for aircraft to be tested. We are monitoring the situation very closely and meeting all Australian Government requirements. Should this change, we will continue to meet all government requirements," spokesman Simon Rushton said.
2SM - John Laws - Sydney's Talk, News and Entertainment Station
Podcast on there, the QF bit is from 46 mins.
Podcast on there, the QF bit is from 46 mins.
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It seems to me there is one reporter who is never going to be invited into the Chairmans Club.
Will apathy allow Qantas to off-shore more? – Plane Talking
Will apathy allow Qantas to off-shore more? – Plane Talking
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How much truth is coming out of Japan?
Another one to consider is that ultimately the airline wouldn't give a damn if there was a radiation risk. All they want is bums on seats and ops normal.
Had it been a volcanic ash issue it may be different. Thats a threat to the machinery and thats a different story entirely.
Sorry guys I've got my cynical hat on today.
Good on the Cabin Crew for saying no to that flight.
As for Mr Ken B? Well he is entitled to his opinion and just because he doesn't agree with the majority here doesn't mean he is wrong or QF management for that matter!
I CAN say this however: Don't come-a-whingin to me when all the experience pisses off overseas and you're left with cadet pilots from third world countries making an almighty mess of things! I'm already getting the giggles at the thought of it
.As for overpaid QF guys? Ken do you think the QF 32 families think they're overpaid? Again, just difference of opinions I suppose.
The way I see it is that QF pilots are actually trying to save AJ's job in the long term. He's got the most amazing case of tunnel vision I've ever seen. Its like a seriously bad day at the casino.
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[QUOTE][/Jetstar, which is still operating flights in and out of Japan, said it was not specifically scanning planes for signs of radioactivity.
"From our perspective, we are continuing safe operations to and from Japan and closely monitoring the situation," a Jetstar spokesperson told Australian Business Traveller.
Qantas said it was not required to scan its planes for radioactivity.
"It is European policy for aircraft to be tested. We are monitoring the situation very closely and meeting all Australian Government requirements. Should this change, we will continue to meet all government requirements," spokesman Simon Rushton said.]
So I guess this means when the regulator say's
No need for fuel tests
No need for pax briefing
No need for crew briefing
And so the list could go on!
Does this mean that it then won't be required because regulation's say you need not, Surely common sense would prevail. You cannot put any cost saving figure on safety the fact is you must spend in the area to keep safety standards high
"From our perspective, we are continuing safe operations to and from Japan and closely monitoring the situation," a Jetstar spokesperson told Australian Business Traveller.
Qantas said it was not required to scan its planes for radioactivity.
"It is European policy for aircraft to be tested. We are monitoring the situation very closely and meeting all Australian Government requirements. Should this change, we will continue to meet all government requirements," spokesman Simon Rushton said.]
So I guess this means when the regulator say's
No need for fuel tests
No need for pax briefing
No need for crew briefing
And so the list could go on!
Does this mean that it then won't be required because regulation's say you need not, Surely common sense would prevail. You cannot put any cost saving figure on safety the fact is you must spend in the area to keep safety standards high
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AJ said
"Jetstar Australia buisness as an example is growing rapidly, Jetstar in January added 40% capacity to it's domestic operation, it's recruiting and growing it's buisness here..."
Now I'm confused, I have been on hold since mid last year and not herd anything about recruiting for Jetstar Australia.
no one
"Jetstar Australia buisness as an example is growing rapidly, Jetstar in January added 40% capacity to it's domestic operation, it's recruiting and growing it's buisness here..."
Now I'm confused, I have been on hold since mid last year and not herd anything about recruiting for Jetstar Australia.
no one
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Won't hear anything if your only qualification is a sheppards ticket...(says the bloke who now can't figure out how many p's in sheppard)
Holding my breath and turning blue for some changes though...
Keep up the good work kelpie ben and senator x...
Holding my breath and turning blue for some changes though...
Keep up the good work kelpie ben and senator x...
Last edited by Xcel; 15th Mar 2011 at 14:43. Reason: Spelt sheppard "shepard" and am still wrong I'm sure - now who really looks stupid