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Old 10th Mar 2011, 06:01
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Yes I know that!!!

I wonder what they have been earning over the last few months whilst undertaking line training in Australia?? BACKPAY!!!

It will be interesting now they have made statement that the Contract will be based on the Award.

As for the Contempt issue, that is still live as far as I am concerned.

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Old 10th Mar 2011, 06:14
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"The [pilot] recalled that, during the incident flight, he had been thinking about those stresses and believed that this might have contributed to the event by distracting him prior to descent."
The report says the pilot had also been struggling to get enough sleep in the days prior to the incident.
"The [pilot] reported staying at temporary accommodation and sleeping on average for only four hours a night.
"The [pilot] considered that fatigue was a factor during the approach into Alice Springs, in that it affected [their] clarity of judgement and concentration."
Sounds very like the fatigue situation in the US and particularly I note the similarities between how this pilot spent his time before the flight and how the pilots tragically killed in the Colgan Air accident did. Unfortunately for the American flight the outcome was so different. Guys we are not far away. Not far away at all.

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Old 10th Mar 2011, 06:16
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The ATSB says the jet had about 70 people on board when it approached the airport "higher, faster and closer" than was suitable for the landing.
A "stick-shaker" warning alerted the flight crew that the aircraft was close to aerodynamically stalling.
How did they pull of being to fast and to slow at the same time?
I am assuming they weren't in some high G load scenario as this is an RPT flight.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 06:37
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I didn't know Qantas ever flew the 717.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 06:45
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It says a Qantas Boeing 717, thats accurate, however flown by Cobham pilots.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 06:47
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My point exactly!


I think you will find it is a QantasLINK aircraft.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 07:01
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Interesting comment on pressure

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that's an interesting statement for those who know the facts. care to elaborate?
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 08:51
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If you know the facts then I don't need o elaborate.
In any case the people concerned are aware, and the problem was terminated.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 20:27
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Qantas has also transferred two Australian-registered, Jetstar-painted Airbus A330 jets to Singapore to perform Melbourne-Singapore and Auckland-Singapore flights under Singaporean labour contracts as a curtain raiser to the basing of a larger fleet of jets, including Boeing 787s, at Changi Airport.
It has come to my attention that as a result of the 2 330's going to SIN, the 330 base in SYD has been reduced, the crews will be retrained on the 320 or relocated.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 22:43
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looks like skywest are gearing up for a cadet scheme. I must admit I missed this when first announced.

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Old 11th Mar 2011, 00:11
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Unless I'm mistaken, a banner is all that's on the site at the moment. Probabaly best to keep it that way for at least the time being!
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 00:34
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They're all scrambling to get as many dollars..err sorry cadets thru the system before Xenophon pull the shutter down on this well worn industry scam. I'd hate to be the last cadet thru before that happens! Would be a pretty nervous situation to be in.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 01:51
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Maybe someone should suggest to the honourable senators that it may be appropriate to invite the Chair of the Rat Board to the next hearing and ask him if he knows what his management are doing.

Had an experience in Singapore a few years ago in another industry where CEO could not explain what was going on to govt reps, so they didn't muck around and just "invited" whole board to explain.Remember up there you dont say NO.

Maybe it is about time we took some lessons.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 02:48
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Surely the board would know of AJ's plans.

Didn't AJ present a plan, "going forward" for the Qantas business during the pre selection process for the role of CEO.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 04:10
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Lacking Integrity - Coming to a Senate Theatre Soon!

Please let there be enough time allocated to this hearing next week for a public skewering of this deceitful, shameful bunch. It is past time to lance the boil...the festering has gone on too long.

At the very least the public deserves to see some truth come out. Go the Xeno!!! Go the Kelpie!!! Go AIPA!!!

Many thanks to everyone, both in front of, and behind the scenes who has contributed and continues to do so. Its inspiring to see our industry rally.

PG

PS. Go Ben Sandilands!!!

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Old 11th Mar 2011, 04:40
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The momentum is good, but more people need to know the facts. The general public is more concerned about $1 milk at the moment and the senate enquiry surrounding it.

If you have access to Face book or Twi tter post links to articles such as Crikey and (to a lesser extent) The Australian. Others in the industry and the general public need to become aware of what is really happening.

Don't underestimate the power of social networking while the likes of AIPA attempt to handle the mass media. It's important as individuals we don't dilute the message, but there is not harm in spreading blogs such as those recently written by Ben Sandilands.

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Old 11th Mar 2011, 04:50
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Let's give the senators a shot at this first!

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Old 11th Mar 2011, 04:54
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Everyone should take from the kelpie's lead.

As far as things go in the industry (conditions/companies flaunting IR laws/sacking those who speak out) lets hope we've seen the end of this).

Congratulations Ben Sandilands. You have the written skills and investigative mind/sources to get this momentum moving. Crikey is also not mainstream media (and therefore not bound by advertising/corporate restrictions that other media outlets are). I don't think you'll find this story on Sunrise! etc..

Combined with the Senate enquiry - I think we are heading the right way.
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Old 11th Mar 2011, 05:47
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My point exactly.

We need to get all the players into a forum where there is accountability.

If the Board did know, then they should be held accountable and if they did not know, then that raises other issues.

Assuming those with greater knowledge than I are correct and the Senate was provided with "erroneous" information imagine the first question from Senators X and H.

I could not imagine that any director would be at all comfortable with being put in this position and its about time they were. They installed this management and have legal responsibility for the performance of the company, so why shouldn't they be brought into the fray?

AIPA cannot do that but Senators can and it is long overdue from the history of this company.
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Old 13th Mar 2011, 06:22
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When's the next hearing? Want to make sure I view it this time!
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