Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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Ministerial action
Fed Sec
Perhaps getting the message to the transport minister and broadcast some positive feedback from him...do you think you could??
emal
Perhaps getting the message to the transport minister and broadcast some positive feedback from him...do you think you could??
emal
E mail from AJ
All,keep you trust in our executive(union) & the fact that the company e mailed the assoc to ask them to reconsider our action may not seem like much now but a lot can be read between the lines.
Good work boys.
Good work boys.
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Heard yesterday that our Head of People and a very fine human, Millsy, has been shown the door (for personal reasons).
If true, he will be sorely missed and that employee-management bridge has truly been severed.
Anyone heard anymore? Is Millsy making a career move to the Rails?
Nice move SP and team, regardless of what the public think and hear it is just as important to win the hearts and minds of the pollies. Can't see how we or the pilots are going to play out Q in their print media propaganda blitz. We're sorry, we're safe and that's why you fly Q ... blah, blah. BUT WHY WERE OUR PAX (CUSTOMERS) REDIRECTED AND FLOWN ON OTHER CARRIERS? How else was the safety card going to be played? Nice move Q.
And the trolls out there still trying the pilot vs engineer divide? Boys, we're so much in the same pile of poo that we only need Q to keep bashing us systematically, it's forged the best ever relationship we have ever had with our drivers (on all fleets). Only ever get messages of support from tech and cabin crews, and sometimes even a chocolate.
If true, he will be sorely missed and that employee-management bridge has truly been severed.
Anyone heard anymore? Is Millsy making a career move to the Rails?
Nice move SP and team, regardless of what the public think and hear it is just as important to win the hearts and minds of the pollies. Can't see how we or the pilots are going to play out Q in their print media propaganda blitz. We're sorry, we're safe and that's why you fly Q ... blah, blah. BUT WHY WERE OUR PAX (CUSTOMERS) REDIRECTED AND FLOWN ON OTHER CARRIERS? How else was the safety card going to be played? Nice move Q.
And the trolls out there still trying the pilot vs engineer divide? Boys, we're so much in the same pile of poo that we only need Q to keep bashing us systematically, it's forged the best ever relationship we have ever had with our drivers (on all fleets). Only ever get messages of support from tech and cabin crews, and sometimes even a chocolate.
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Also remember guys a lot of crap is playing out behind the scenes here. The failing of Tiger is a good thing for all of us, even those Tiger staff who will eventually find work with a better airline.
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Your actions should be applauded but I can't help but think that management will not be as gracious to you as they keep sticking it to qf employees.
It Is a fine line this game that it's being played right now and I hope you all stick together for the sake of everyone involved.
It Is a fine line this game that it's being played right now and I hope you all stick together for the sake of everyone involved.
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In relation to media reporting, Sky News had a continuous scripted message playing across the bottom of the screen along the lines of "Qantas engineers have cancelled planned industrial action following the grounding of Tiger Airlines". A good PR move and the right thing to do in my book. Finally some accurate and positive media reporting.Well done SP and the Bexley team.
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If it wasn't for a printing error on the ballot form requiring a reissue of the form. The long haul pilots PIA results would have been in this week. A remarkable coincidence!
If it wasn't for a printing error on the ballot form requiring a reissue of the form. The long haul pilots PIA results would have been in this week. A remarkable coincidence!
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Watched the news on a couple of the nations finest stations and both went into detail about the Tiger issue but neither mentioned our gracious move to suspend our action. Not really sunrised but disappointing considering the flogging we have copped from media and Q assclowns. 
Keep up the great work all the crew at our ALAEA and you have our support 100%.
Its not a spelling mistake.
Keep up the great work all the crew at our ALAEA and you have our support 100%.
Its not a spelling mistake.
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our gracious move to suspend our action. Not surprised
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5 pages worth in Sunday herald sun and no mention should have just had the PIA as planned going to get nothing for putting it off
Do you have an answer or maybe you could just acknowledge that a decision was made for all the right reasons?
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Wishful thinking but after the phone call between SP and the minister one could only hope that the said minister then made a further call to AJ and told him some home truths about the "state of the nation" etc etc.
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Ch.7 news showed a short piece of Fed Sec explaining about the ALAEA not proceeding with the PIA.
Ch.9 did not.
IMHO this is a good move by the Exec, as we don't need the Govt forcing their hand and giving QF management the Royal Flush to force us to accept a deal that we don't want. Although we are persuing a EA wage increase, we are also supposed to be promoting air safety, and Tiger is a classic example of everything EXCEPT 100% safety before schedule.
It is better we do the morally right thing and hold over the PIA until a later date, as this war will not be won overnight, but by good strategic planning by our elected ALAEA exec.
Keep up the good work Steve and all other Exec members.
I voted YES for a reason
Ch.9 did not.
IMHO this is a good move by the Exec, as we don't need the Govt forcing their hand and giving QF management the Royal Flush to force us to accept a deal that we don't want. Although we are persuing a EA wage increase, we are also supposed to be promoting air safety, and Tiger is a classic example of everything EXCEPT 100% safety before schedule.
It is better we do the morally right thing and hold over the PIA until a later date, as this war will not be won overnight, but by good strategic planning by our elected ALAEA exec.
Keep up the good work Steve and all other Exec members.
I voted YES for a reason
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Well done with calling off the PIA , since when do we need to tell Qantas what we are doing in advance , gone are the days of dinner at the seaside the night before a EBA meeting
.I see that one current point in the EBA is the certainty of your leave and from what I gather your leave is touch and go up until you take it. Remember you have worked to earn this leave so should be able to take it with advanced planning when you want. So give Qantas the same inflexibility that they extend to you with your leave with your PIA action and teach them how it feels to not be able to plan ahead and the costs involved .
10/10 for calling action off , keep the public on side and them questing and show to the public what a LAME less tarmac can result in .
Stay Strong United not divided you cant be defeated
.I see that one current point in the EBA is the certainty of your leave and from what I gather your leave is touch and go up until you take it. Remember you have worked to earn this leave so should be able to take it with advanced planning when you want. So give Qantas the same inflexibility that they extend to you with your leave with your PIA action and teach them how it feels to not be able to plan ahead and the costs involved .10/10 for calling action off , keep the public on side and them questing and show to the public what a LAME less tarmac can result in .
Stay Strong United not divided you cant be defeated
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On the ropes..........
Well, Maybe we don't exactly have the company on the ropes, but IMHO, calling off the PIA like this certainly lands them a good blow right in their PR's !
As well as gaining public "goodwill" in the immediate term, it makes our case when we do take PIA for "safety reasons" so much more credible.
With the added advantage of making QF look like the "baddies" for out-sourcing their maintenance to places like Singapore.
Don't forget, that this will of also allowed us to of stored up a couple of "brownie points" in the halls of government and media.
IMHO, we had no option but to call off the PIA, but as an added bonus, doing so makes us look like the "good guys" !
Two-thumbs-up !!
ST
!As well as gaining public "goodwill" in the immediate term, it makes our case when we do take PIA for "safety reasons" so much more credible.
With the added advantage of making QF look like the "baddies" for out-sourcing their maintenance to places like Singapore.
Don't forget, that this will of also allowed us to of stored up a couple of "brownie points" in the halls of government and media.
IMHO, we had no option but to call off the PIA, but as an added bonus, doing so makes us look like the "good guys" !
Two-thumbs-up !!
ST
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Wishful thinking but after the phone call between SP and the minister one could only hope that the said minister then made a further call to AJ and told him some home truths about the "state of the nation" etc etc.
Good Kudos for us, but back to battle stations again shortly.
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Good choice by the exec. in the current circumstance.........
BUT............. remember the whole point of this is to safeguard the future of Aircraft Engineering in Australia.
It is the responsibility of the current Government , and the Minister in particular, to ensure the future of Aircraft Engineering in Australia to remain at the high standard that it currently has.
None of this 'Worlds Best Practice' rubbish.............
BUT............. remember the whole point of this is to safeguard the future of Aircraft Engineering in Australia.
It is the responsibility of the current Government , and the Minister in particular, to ensure the future of Aircraft Engineering in Australia to remain at the high standard that it currently has.
None of this 'Worlds Best Practice' rubbish.............
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QantasLink Brisbane all but shut down
It has become very apparent that we were very carefully goaded into a fight by upper mis - management. They now have the result they required - Brisbane a skeleton of its former self. Turnaround port only and fix it to fly it base - no scheduled maintenance.
Of course they miss some important details - now won't have enough people to fix major breakages ( have to fly people in from other bases if avail). That is if we can get into hangar.
Lets do the maintenance where the least number of aircraft overnight - schedulling need to be on top of it just to arrange. U/S's create havoc with the plan and they need to ferry empty to & fro.
Disillusioned staff, delusional manager's, what a place to hang your hat as far as a career path.
Of course they miss some important details - now won't have enough people to fix major breakages ( have to fly people in from other bases if avail). That is if we can get into hangar.
Lets do the maintenance where the least number of aircraft overnight - schedulling need to be on top of it just to arrange. U/S's create havoc with the plan and they need to ferry empty to & fro.
Disillusioned staff, delusional manager's, what a place to hang your hat as far as a career path.
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Should this concern us?
http://www.amtonline.com/web/online/Top-News/Boeing-Shanghai-Earns-Maintenance-Certification-from-Australia-Civil-Aviation-Safety-Authority-/1$13931
Boeing Shanghai Earns Maintenance Certification from Australia Civil Aviation Safety Authority
Boeing Shanghai
SHANGHAI, June 29, 2011 – Boeing Shanghai Aviation Services Co., Ltd. (Boeing Shanghai) today announced that it has received maintenance certification from the Australia Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA), allowing Boeing Shanghai to serve customers in Australia.
The CASA certification enables Boeing Shanghai to perform base maintenance up to and including D checks, as well as line maintenance, for Boeing Classic and Next-Generation 737 models, including 737-300s, -400s, -500s, -600s, -700s, -800s and -900s.
“With this certification, Boeing Shanghai is able to extend cost-effective and high-quality service to an extremely important aviation market, encompassing world-class carriers,” said Bernard Hensey, CEO of Boeing Shanghai. “This is another key step in the development of Boeing Shanghai’s global outreach, which now includes maintenance certifications for Australia, Bangladesh, Bermuda, China, Europe, Russia, South Korea, Thailand and the United States.”
Boeing Shanghai was established as a joint venture of Boeing, Shanghai Airport Authorities and China Eastern Airlines. Boeing Shanghai offers a broad range of services – from engineering, aircraft maintenance and modification to component repair and overhaul and material management – to exceed customer expectations.
http://www.amtonline.com/web/online/Top-News/Boeing-Shanghai-Earns-Maintenance-Certification-from-Australia-Civil-Aviation-Safety-Authority-/1$13931
Boeing Shanghai Earns Maintenance Certification from Australia Civil Aviation Safety Authority
Boeing Shanghai
SHANGHAI, June 29, 2011 – Boeing Shanghai Aviation Services Co., Ltd. (Boeing Shanghai) today announced that it has received maintenance certification from the Australia Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA), allowing Boeing Shanghai to serve customers in Australia.
The CASA certification enables Boeing Shanghai to perform base maintenance up to and including D checks, as well as line maintenance, for Boeing Classic and Next-Generation 737 models, including 737-300s, -400s, -500s, -600s, -700s, -800s and -900s.
“With this certification, Boeing Shanghai is able to extend cost-effective and high-quality service to an extremely important aviation market, encompassing world-class carriers,” said Bernard Hensey, CEO of Boeing Shanghai. “This is another key step in the development of Boeing Shanghai’s global outreach, which now includes maintenance certifications for Australia, Bangladesh, Bermuda, China, Europe, Russia, South Korea, Thailand and the United States.”
Boeing Shanghai was established as a joint venture of Boeing, Shanghai Airport Authorities and China Eastern Airlines. Boeing Shanghai offers a broad range of services – from engineering, aircraft maintenance and modification to component repair and overhaul and material management – to exceed customer expectations.
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