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Old 4th Sep 2010, 02:02
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Buchanan gets 43% pay rise

From the Herald Sun 4th September...

"Meanwhile, the airline also released its annual report yesterday, showing Jetstar boss Bruce Buchanan received a mammoth 43 per cent increase in salary to $1.1 million.

The pay rise came as the budget carrier sank to a loss in the fourth quarter, as a drop in demand and stagnant yields put pressure on its model.

Qantas CEO Alan Joyce received a modest haircut, dropping his salary from $3.6 million to $2.9 million."
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...and it is on this ground that you need to concentrate your PR campaign.

With that and the (very real) threat to safety of using fast-tracked dodgy pilots from dubious backgrounds overseas you have the basis for a solid campaign.

The hypocrisy of these management people is gobsmacking. Screw you and other staff by continuously eroding your already meager Terms & Conditions whilst simultaneously giving themselves massive pay-rises.

What better time for a truly united industrial lobby group.

You have the ammunition, now use it sensibly.
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So how much did they lose in the 4th Qtr?
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Absolute gold ! Boston Bruce strikes again. I hope all the current serving underpaid and overworked staff think about Brucey's envious salary as they are bent over taking another shot in the a*s so as to enable this management creature to pull in such a healthy existence.
'Its good to be the king'..
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Mr "A. Le Rhone" wrote:
"With that and the (very real) threat to safety of using fast-tracked dodgy pilots from dubious backgrounds overseas"

As an "overseas pilot" I take offence!!! You should be careful what and how you write replies.

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Higs, I suspect you're being over sensitive as well as displaying a lack of comprehension. Were you fast tracked? Are you dodgy? Are you of dubious background? If not then the statement doesn't apply to you.

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Higs - too sensitive. I'm also an 'overseas pilot' currently, although I do have an Australian ATPL and I was trained here.

What I object to is the concept that some highly paid executive thinks it's acceptable to employ pilots from countries where they just don't train pilots properly and the airlines there have mediocre to appalling safety records. I'm not talking about the UK or Canada but places that regularly crash aircraft and kill people. I find it doubly-galling that the reason those executives do so is solely to put pressure on current or future pilots of that airline to accept ever-diminishing salaries.

Australia has a good safety record for a reason. Indonesia, Botswana and Uzbekistan don't. Not Politically Correct? Too Bad. Lives are at stake quite literally. It's ever so easy to fast-track some poorly-trained and lowly-paid Uzbekistani pilot with an Australian licence and let him loose. All it needs is some employer clout in Canberra and less than diligent C&T Captains (motivated by 'hefty' allowances but pressured by management).

This exact scenario happened with one overseas airline I was associated with (in one of the world's most affluent countries) and the results were a disgrace. Another major low-cost airline has used similar techniques and fortunately hasn't (by pure luck) had fatalities, but that in itself doesn't justify the way it hires, 'trains' and overworks its pilots. That airline is a ticking time-bomb. It's also the one that too many young, new executives like to use as their datum for a successful airline.

And oh how the media howl (and quite rightly) when some of there own are killed, as happened in the Indonesian 737 abysmal approach some time ago. I have seen operational decisions from crews in this part of the world that defy belief. We all make mistakes but the training we had in Australian GA/military and some airlines taught us well how to try to minimise these mistakes. That training and discipline does not exist in so many foreign jurisdictions it is a real concern - and the accident statistics prove that.

So Higs, you can be offended all you want but the thought of dodgy pilots from dubious backgrounds overseas being imported purely to bolster some executives already bulging wallet is more than offensive, it's stomach-churningly sickening.

Most certainly Not Impressed.
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This is another weapon in our fight against FSO 136.

As disgusting as this is, it will help.


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Lucky they lost some money .
Imagine the pay rise with spectacular profits!
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Well ampclamp, you guys clearly contributed to the loss so just imagine the pay rise you will get.
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(They can't use any fast tracked dodgy pilots of dubious backgrounds in Australia as they are all working for CASA! )
Hahaha now Keg, after our little spat on a different subject, I find that one of yours bloody funny.
I think you and I are going to get along just fine eh!
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Hey arnold I almost wish I did work for them! Well....maybe not
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What A Joke , The biggest turkey ! he must hvae trouble sleeping
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he must have trouble sleeping
I very much doubt that.
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Regardsless of JQ profits, he must be putting in 43% more time.................................................bul^%$$ $
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](They can't use any fast tracked dodgy pilots of dubious backgrounds in Australia as they are all working for CASA! )


Ha-ha. Good One!

Poor BB, working for a budget airline only gives him a salary of 1.1 million with his 43% pay rise, for cutting his staffs pay and conditions and employing foreign pilots, by off-shoring j*.

Has a bit of catching up to do to Q ceos salary.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/qantas-exboss-paid-11m-20090921-fxko.html

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/news/qantas-chiefs-pay-soars/story-e6frg90f-1111117871517

However they will have to go into bankruptcy protection if they want a real ceos salary.
Third paragraph-United airlines
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06082007/profile.html

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4170911/

Employing foreign pilots will increase his bonus if he reduces costs.
I very much doubt any other considerations such as employment for Aussie pilots or safety issues come in to the equation.

He will hope if here are any problems he will be gone by then and it will be someone else’s responsibility.

It amazes me when the Captain and Crew literally have the responibility for the lives of 300-400 passengers and crew each flight, and the ceo has a responsibility to pay a dividend to the shareholders, yet the ceos and executives salaries show what is considered more important by the shareholders and airline owners.

The annual shareholders dividend is worth 10 to 100 times more, than the 60,000+ passengers lives the pilots may carry each year.

That puts it in perspective for me.

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"...the thought of dodgy pilots from dubious backgrounds overseas being imported..."

Where do you draw this conclusion from?

Scare tactics aside, what part of JQ's plans include altering the law to allow foreign pilots from "Indonesia, Botswana and Uzbekistan" to come to australia en masse in some "fast-track" program to allow "poorly-trained" pilots to sneak under the checking and training radar overseen by CASA?

Do you still search for commies under the bed too?
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They won't be in OZ yet.

They'll be employed in Sing and NZ flying to OZ..

Looks like they are willing to take anyone they can get.
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Where do they say they intend to employ foreign pilots for j* SIN base.

I understand they have asked the j* pilots who would like to relocate to the SIN base on less than the minimum Aussie award (and pay for their own accomodation etc).

But I assume if not enough Aussie pilots are willing to relocate to SIN on what they intend to pay, they will fill the slots with non Aussie pilots flying to Aus.
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