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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 07:37
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I agree with you 100% cactus. A monumental bleeding was the E90 for Albury route, it was/is one the biggest fark ups you could imagine. They cant land the E90 due to runway length and that info comes direct from an ERSA and the E90 aircraft manual and they didnt even confirm that the numbers matched. It was orginaly earmarked E90 until the day before the first flight.

Hence why the E70 has been operating the route since day one!

This is why they had more E90 than originally planned, then they went and ordered more!!

I imagine the changes Bog's is doing is kinda moving out the old and bringing the experienced? i hope!
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 09:01
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Major airline managements have never understood the regional airline environment. Fourty years ago ANSW tried to replace F27 with F28 on high yield, regulated and sole operator routes in NSW. The experiment failed and F27s returned to fly these services for many subsequent years.
Regional airline pundits knew from day one that Embraers would not be competitive against high frequency more efficient Saab340 and Dash 8 turboprop services.
The world is full of dreamers who fail to study their markets, their competition and the operating economics of operating jet aircraft over regional routes that offer little utililisation outside AM and PM peak travel times.
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 09:11
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Kittyblue - you clearly have no idea about Embraer operations or Albury for that matter.

Albury is plenty long enough for the 190 and it goes there on the odd occasion.
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 09:21
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I am amazed that some posters hate it how staff had a few dollars spent on them by way of parties. If i was a shareholder I wouldnt approve of it either, fair enough.
For the record, I don't begrudge anyone their xmas party. But the way it's being discussed by employees of the company is a bit short sighted. Yes you are not getting an anticipated BBQ this year. But....

The company just downgraded it's profit by 70% do you think now is the right time to be funding company booze-ups? I'm not oblivious to the unique team building experience that only alcohol can provide but lets get real here. That money could be better spent on sorely needed improvements to the DJ product and network, thereby improving the working conditions of all employees, not just the ones who can make it to an event.

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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 12:16
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190 ops into AY haven't been approved and most likely never will. Check A1 manual only the 170 is approved. Limited Ops into PMQ was approved 6 months back, so I think the 190 has been into there but not AY. Runway length has got nothing to do with it, as AY is longer than PMQ.

Once the 170's go so will AY, PMQ, TL - CS, TL - RK, TL - CG etc unless the turboprops turn up.
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 22:29
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When did they start flying E90 into Albury. I used to do that route pretty much every second shift for 2 years......

thanks for the correction re: runway length, i was advised by the FC on that... i knew there was a restriction.
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 23:23
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They haven't operated the 190 into AY. Even the latest change to A1 still doesn't allow 190 ops to AY. I think you will find it's a PCN issue or a parking issue ( the 190 is longer the the 737-700).
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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 23:57
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Heard over the PA at BNE Airport the other day 'Due to an engineering issue, DJ??? to Sydney has been delayed, the engineers have just ROCKED UP to the aircraft...blah blah blah' seriously, if we want to attract the high yield market, these sort of announcments made by the ground staff have to stop.....
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 00:06
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Heard over the PA at BNE Airport the other day 'Due to an engineering issue, DJ??? to Sydney has been delayed, the engineers have just ROCKED UP to the aircraft...blah blah blah' seriously, if we want to attract the high yield market, these sort of announcments made by the ground staff have to stop.....
Oh Dear....yes some PA training wouldn't go astray.
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 01:00
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lol..... and 'thank you for letting us take you for a ride' is another one! CRINGE!
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 08:05
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What about this one heard on DJ recently "Ladies and Gentleman please be careful when you open the overhead lockers your luggage may have shifted during the flight and as we all know ...... shift happens " .
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 08:23
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i used to use that one all the time!!! It was a very different airlines when they first started!!! times are and have changed!
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 08:51
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And,the pax cabin briefing ....

Right after the spiel about "there is a serious side to the flight" ...." Today we will be travelling in a pressurised cabin "

Did they fly in an unpressurised cabin yesterday ? Lucky for me I'm on this flight then ! Sheesh......
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 08:59
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The punters arn't listening anyway, so what does it matter.?
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 06:50
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so with the name changes being made are we to see Virgin Australia domestically and V Australia internationally?

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The Virgin name will stay forever," he said. "I think Pacific Blue and the other (airlines) they will be rebranded. There's a whole rebranding exercise which is going to be unveiled, maybe even in a month or so, which looks great. I've seen it and I think it's very, very powerful."
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 09:29
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I thought RB might have a bit to say this trip.... Maybe a spanner in JB's plans?? My money is on Virgin Australia, with the same livery as V America.
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 10:13
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Spot on Kitty.

I've seen another article somewhere that said RB wants to buy his stake of VAtlantic back.

Livery I think it will be different. Sense mettalic something.
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 10:28
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Virgin Blue celebrate their 10th Birthday with an all-singing, all-dancing Extravagan

YouTube - Virgin Blue celebrate their 10th Birthday with an all-singing, all-dancing Extravaganza
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 11:36
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Yeah I agree, looks like Virgin Australia (dom) and V Australia (int) - until SQ release the grip on their sphincter with the use of the Virgin name then all becoming Virgin Aust.
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 12:14
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so the joint venture with Polynesia and Virgin Blue Group will stay the same, Polynesian Blue. Then one aircraft will be painted in the old livery or just have a sticker with VAustralia operating on behalf of Poly Blue?
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