jetstar moving Aussie jobs offshore?
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Heard on the "Rumour File", (radio 3AW, Melb) this morning that jetstar is moving their Flight Planning & Crewing departments to the Philippines
Anyone know anything about this?
Anyone know anything about this?
Known as "Outsourcing" and has been going on for years in other industries. Ever wondered why when you've phoned a call center the person on the other end of the line has an Indian accent ?
High speed internet has made it possible to use cheap English speaking workers located thousands of miles away. Many jobs which don't require a "hands on" presence can be done from abroad; administration, accounts, customer service just to name a few.
Unfortunately that's the way things are going, look at the manufacturing and textile industries. Modern transport and communications has brought everything closer.
Time to think of reskilling if you're employed in an area at risk.
There are advantages though, I'm having dental work done in Bangkok at one third of what an Australian dentist would charge.
High speed internet has made it possible to use cheap English speaking workers located thousands of miles away. Many jobs which don't require a "hands on" presence can be done from abroad; administration, accounts, customer service just to name a few.
Unfortunately that's the way things are going, look at the manufacturing and textile industries. Modern transport and communications has brought everything closer.
Time to think of reskilling if you're employed in an area at risk.
There are advantages though, I'm having dental work done in Bangkok at one third of what an Australian dentist would charge.
I'm having dental work done in Bangkok at one third of what an Australian dentist would charge
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Many jobs which don't require a "hands on" presence can be done from abroad; administration, accounts, customer service just to name a few.
The fact that this has not set alarm bells ringing worries me greatly.
More outsourcing, cadet pilots on ridiculous conditions, cancelling new hire courses......whats going on at Jetstar????? Maybe the pressure from Tiger, Air Asia etc is starting to hurt??? Is the golden child of Qantas becoming a bit of a problem?....More interesting times ahead. Qantas could be in a bit of sticky situation here, Virgin targeting the premium and Tiger attacking the lower end 
ouch!
You can only outsource to a degree before it starts costing more in the long run because you lose the expertise in the core buisness. But i guess it makes someones KPI's look good.
ouch!You can only outsource to a degree before it starts costing more in the long run because you lose the expertise in the core buisness. But i guess it makes someones KPI's look good.
spoken by a bloke who clearly doesn't have a clue what the dispatchers actually do.
If you think about it, air traffic control is "outsourced" in many countries. How many ATC centers are located at an airport ? Many controllers never see an actual aircraft as they are located in a building miles away.
Brisbane Centre is responsible for the airspace from 45 nm north of Sydney, up to the airspace boundaries with Indonesia and Papua New Guinea in the north, and east to the airspace boundaries with New Zealand and Fiji.
Better hope Airservices don't get the idea of outsourcing to solve the controller shortage or approach could be handing you over to someone in Asia for the enroute part of your flight.
Not sure where I heard it but the saying goes 'there's only one thing shareholders hate more than bad press and that's a bad quarterly report'.
It's the price Aussies have to pay if they want dirt cheap flights and a fat dividend at the end of the financial year...
It's the price Aussies have to pay if they want dirt cheap flights and a fat dividend at the end of the financial year...
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"It's the price Aussies have to pay if they want dirt cheap flights and a fat dividend at the end of the financial year..."
Its the price Aussies pay for enjoying uncompetitive wages.
Its the price Aussies pay for enjoying uncompetitive wages.
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Its the price Aussies pay for enjoying uncompetitive wages.
How come when managers wages are going through the roof it is due to the 'competition' to get the right people, and this same argument is used when trying to suppress any argument for a salary increase for anyone below 'management' level.
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Originally Posted by Metro Man
I'm well aware of what a dispatcher does, this requires a hands on presence to sort out problems and deal with the crew and passengers
A flight dispatchers does not 'sort out problems' or deal with 'crew and passengers' - they (high level) create flight plans...
Depending on which country and which airline the duties of a dispatcher involve flight planning, load sheets, take off speeds, met reports and a lot of running around making sure everything is happening as it's supposed to. It's a high pressure job needing good people skills.
Dispatchers are onboard dealing with the flight crew prior to departure and may get to deal with difficult passengers who are being off loaded.
Most airlines would be using computerised flight planning so you are unlikely to see a dispatcher with an enroute chart and wizz wheel.
The man on the ground may need to actually be there, office staff may not.
In a free market supply and demand rule.
Qualified, skilled people who are in short supply command high wages. The licenced engineer signing out an aircraft which he has just changed the engine on is difficult and expensive to replace therefore he is well renumerated to encourage him to stay. If he takes his skills abroad he can expect good rewards.
Unqualified, unskilled and semi skilled people are rarely in short supply and don't have to be well paid as they can easily be replaced, unless the unions have a strangle hold on the company. In this case a baggage loader gets paid far more than he is worth considering his qualifications, time to train and nature of the work he performs. Should he seek work abroad eg Asia or the Middle East his pay will be a small fraction of what he would get in Australia. Similarly if he looked for a non union job at home with the skill requirement of loading bags his pay would also be much lower.
While said worker is quite happy to take the extra money he also looks for the lowest price when out shopping and has no qualms about driving a Korean car, wearing clothes from Fiji and using household goods which were made in China.
Now will someone explain how Australian companies have to pay certain people more than they are worth and still compete with foreign companies which don't ?
Dispatchers are onboard dealing with the flight crew prior to departure and may get to deal with difficult passengers who are being off loaded.
Most airlines would be using computerised flight planning so you are unlikely to see a dispatcher with an enroute chart and wizz wheel.
The man on the ground may need to actually be there, office staff may not.
Had to take the bait. What are competitive wages? What standard of living would we have with 'competitive' wages.
Qualified, skilled people who are in short supply command high wages. The licenced engineer signing out an aircraft which he has just changed the engine on is difficult and expensive to replace therefore he is well renumerated to encourage him to stay. If he takes his skills abroad he can expect good rewards.
Unqualified, unskilled and semi skilled people are rarely in short supply and don't have to be well paid as they can easily be replaced, unless the unions have a strangle hold on the company. In this case a baggage loader gets paid far more than he is worth considering his qualifications, time to train and nature of the work he performs. Should he seek work abroad eg Asia or the Middle East his pay will be a small fraction of what he would get in Australia. Similarly if he looked for a non union job at home with the skill requirement of loading bags his pay would also be much lower.
While said worker is quite happy to take the extra money he also looks for the lowest price when out shopping and has no qualms about driving a Korean car, wearing clothes from Fiji and using household goods which were made in China.
Now will someone explain how Australian companies have to pay certain people more than they are worth and still compete with foreign companies which don't ?