SkyWest A320
think the main aim is to have a fleet of 4 which they will need to justify the investment...however finding the profitable work is going to be the interesting part!
was more pointing to the reasoning behind multiple frames in regard to economies of scale offsetting the initial investment in the type. But yes correct, finding the work is paramount...
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A question for you Skywest folk, is that thing airworthy?
Stuck at Cloudbreak again tonite, 40 people having to stay back overnight.
Not bitching about the decision making of the people up front, good on them for doing so, but its FNP people here are starting to worry about coz this is certainly not the first time its happened!
So can you allay the fears of the miners that ride in the back of that thing coz its starting to get a rep here.
Cheers!
Stuck at Cloudbreak again tonite, 40 people having to stay back overnight.
Not bitching about the decision making of the people up front, good on them for doing so, but its FNP people here are starting to worry about coz this is certainly not the first time its happened!
So can you allay the fears of the miners that ride in the back of that thing coz its starting to get a rep here.
Cheers!
UFO- How many other contracts, mining or otherwise are served with 1 single aircraft ALL the time. I understand their Fortescue contract is served by both the A320 and F100's, but there is only 1 A320, and all it does is go to Cloudbreak. So therefore any time it has a tech issue, it is going to be on that service. Makes sense right?
How many times has it been 'stuck' since it started operating last year? If they had other airframes that were able to be swapped and rotated around, I bet the punters wouldn't have a clue that the aircraft they were originally meant to be on actually went U/S earlier in the day.
It is an old airframe though......
How many times has it been 'stuck' since it started operating last year? If they had other airframes that were able to be swapped and rotated around, I bet the punters wouldn't have a clue that the aircraft they were originally meant to be on actually went U/S earlier in the day.
It is an old airframe though......
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Come on UFO, "is that thing airworthy" is a pretty antagonistic troll like remark. I'm guessing by your posts you are one of the the guys based in Cloudbreak flying Chieftains for OzWest or whatever it's called these days. My point being is that you are actually a pilot and not a tosser troll that's come to pprune to stir the pot. You should know as well as anybody else the all aircraft go tech sometimes. As Chadzat said there is only one in the fleet so it's pretty obvious when an aircraft change has to be made. I'm just wondering where you've got your info from about the number of break downs FNP has had, because from what I've heard it's been a very reliable aircraft. If you've got a figure of the number of times it's gone tech and not been able to depart I'd be very interested to compare this to all the other older aircraft based out of Perth and the newer ones for that matter.
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There is a 6 page story on Skywest in the AA. It states they will get 1 more A320 and 2 more F100s. It goes on to mention that they are interested in serving ADL, SIN (likely from PHE) and tap into Pilbara to the East Coast.
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No higherplane im NOT a tosser, and thanks very much for that abuse.
I used to work in the industry for a brief time, have a pilots licence and do still have an interest in aviation.
Yes i do work at cloudbreak in a management position.
Now, for your interest a miners time at home is precious to him/her, and when they have to remain back at camp overnight because an aircraft goes tech, or gets delayed by hours, then it starts to take its toll, and questions start getting asked.
Not once in the year and a half working here have i been delayed by technical reasons when flying the Fokker, yet the poor bastards on that Airbus have been delayed or held overnight more than a few times. It would not surprise me one iota if it had already overtaken the Fokkers in tech issues.
I understand that aircraft go tech, and am in no way blaming the pilots for doing so, but im asking the question as to why this aircraft appears to go tech a heck of a lot more than the Fokkers do.
And yes Chadzat it is and old aircraft, 20 years with 22 operators, does that sound right?
I used to work in the industry for a brief time, have a pilots licence and do still have an interest in aviation.
Yes i do work at cloudbreak in a management position.
Now, for your interest a miners time at home is precious to him/her, and when they have to remain back at camp overnight because an aircraft goes tech, or gets delayed by hours, then it starts to take its toll, and questions start getting asked.
Not once in the year and a half working here have i been delayed by technical reasons when flying the Fokker, yet the poor bastards on that Airbus have been delayed or held overnight more than a few times. It would not surprise me one iota if it had already overtaken the Fokkers in tech issues.
I understand that aircraft go tech, and am in no way blaming the pilots for doing so, but im asking the question as to why this aircraft appears to go tech a heck of a lot more than the Fokkers do.
And yes Chadzat it is and old aircraft, 20 years with 22 operators, does that sound right?
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UFO, I don't want to start something. I apologise for the tosser remark even though I did call you a pilot (which you are) and not a tosser. However I can see how you would interpret it that way. I just get annoyed at what I perceive as people stirring the pot on pprune when it's supposed to be about sharing rumours and interesting gossip.
The plane is obviously airworthy otherwise why would the crew bother to write something up and ground the plane in Cloudbreak if they are already flying an unairworthy aircraft...what's one more problem hey?
My vague understanding with the A320 is that you are correct about the age and in a sense about the operators. It has only been owned however, by a few companies who controlled all the maintenance etc and then wet leased it to the others you mentioned. I can see how all those operators etc can seemingly put a tarnish on an aircraft's history. The reality is that everything is recorded that is done to an aircraft and CASA (and Skywest for that matter) would have gone through it with a fine toothed comb before letting it onto the Australian registrar.
If you are talking about aircraft ages you'll probably find the vast amount of FIFO work is done in aircraft of a similar age. Unless the bosses at RIO, FMG, BHP etc are going to start paying a lot more money this is not going to change in a hurry.
The plane is obviously airworthy otherwise why would the crew bother to write something up and ground the plane in Cloudbreak if they are already flying an unairworthy aircraft...what's one more problem hey?
My vague understanding with the A320 is that you are correct about the age and in a sense about the operators. It has only been owned however, by a few companies who controlled all the maintenance etc and then wet leased it to the others you mentioned. I can see how all those operators etc can seemingly put a tarnish on an aircraft's history. The reality is that everything is recorded that is done to an aircraft and CASA (and Skywest for that matter) would have gone through it with a fine toothed comb before letting it onto the Australian registrar.
If you are talking about aircraft ages you'll probably find the vast amount of FIFO work is done in aircraft of a similar age. Unless the bosses at RIO, FMG, BHP etc are going to start paying a lot more money this is not going to change in a hurry.
Now, for your interest a miners time at home is precious to him/her, and when they have to remain back at camp overnight because an aircraft goes tech, or gets delayed by hours, then it starts to take its toll, and questions start getting asked.
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My vague understanding with the A320 is that you are correct about the age and in a sense about the operators. It has only been owned however, by a few companies who controlled all the maintenance etc and then wet leased it to the others you mentioned. I can see how all those operators etc can seemingly put a tarnish on an aircraft's history
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Not once in the year and a half working here have i been delayed by technical reasons when flying the Fokker, yet the poor bastards on that Airbus have been delayed or held overnight more than a few times. It would not surprise me one iota if it had already overtaken the Fokkers in tech issues.
The answer lies purely in the fact that there is only ONE A320. Im sure the Fokkers have gone tech numerous times in your year and half but you have failed to see it because everyone has worked behind the scenes to make sure a replacement is organised and the schedule is uninterupted. I thought we did a very good job on Friday night to get 200 people out and left only 40 before last light!
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Surprised no one picked this one up.....
From Skywest stock exchange announcement.....
12 May 2011
SKYWEST AIRLINES LTD
(“Skywest” or “the Company”)
EXPANSION OF FLEET AIRBUS A320 AND FOKKER 100
Skywest, the Australian and South East Asia regional airline, is pleased to announce certain steps that it has
taken in order to provide for further fleet resources that will support commercial growth. Skywest intends this will
allow for continuing growth in the contracted scheduled charter sector of its business, connected to the delivery
of services to the resources sector.
FLEET
Skywest has acquired an option to lease an Airbus A320-231 which is the “sister ship” to its existing A320-231
(VH-FNP). This option has been obtained from Avation Plc, the lessor of VH-FNP. Skywest is making the
existence of the option known to its contracted scheduled charter clients, which option is valid until 30th June
2011. The proposed sister ship lease will be an operating lease for 4 years, substantially on the same terms as
VH-FNP, with the aircraft anticipated to be available to enter service around August 2011.
Furthermore, Skywest has entered into a Letter of Intent to purchase an additional Fokker 100 jet aircraft
directly. Should Skywest decide, in its sole discretion, to complete the acquisition, the aircraft would also be
available in the fleet around August 2011.
VIRGIN AIRCRAFT
Skywest is enjoying significant strategic growth and the arrangements with Virgin Australia could lead to a
doubling of Skywest’s overall fleet size with the addition of up to 18 additional ATR-72 aircraft. It is expected
that the first Virgin Australia aircraft will be delivered new from the factory to Skywest on 30th June 2011. This
first Virgin Australia-branded ATR-72 is expected to operate commercially by 29th August 2011. Notwithstanding
the growth in the national scope of operations associated with the Virgin Australia wet lease, Skywest also
maintains a core business strategy to expand its operations in respect to contracted scheduled charter and
additional RPT services.
NEW ROUTES
Skywest is proud to announce that in support of the expansion of operations in the Mid-West of Australia, it is
planning to expand operations to offer a weekly service from Geraldton to Denpasar, Bali for leisure and
commercial travelers. Sales of tickets for this route will commence on 22nd May 2011. Tickets may be
purchased on-line at Western Australia's Leading Regional Airline - Skywest Airlines and through associated sales channels.
Furthermore, Skywest intends to provide connectivity from Geraldton through to the Pilbara and Geraldton to
the East Coast of Australia to Melbourne from July 2011, supporting Western Australia’s bush community.
12 May 2011
SKYWEST AIRLINES LTD
(“Skywest” or “the Company”)
EXPANSION OF FLEET AIRBUS A320 AND FOKKER 100
Skywest, the Australian and South East Asia regional airline, is pleased to announce certain steps that it has
taken in order to provide for further fleet resources that will support commercial growth. Skywest intends this will
allow for continuing growth in the contracted scheduled charter sector of its business, connected to the delivery
of services to the resources sector.
FLEET
Skywest has acquired an option to lease an Airbus A320-231 which is the “sister ship” to its existing A320-231
(VH-FNP). This option has been obtained from Avation Plc, the lessor of VH-FNP. Skywest is making the
existence of the option known to its contracted scheduled charter clients, which option is valid until 30th June
2011. The proposed sister ship lease will be an operating lease for 4 years, substantially on the same terms as
VH-FNP, with the aircraft anticipated to be available to enter service around August 2011.
Furthermore, Skywest has entered into a Letter of Intent to purchase an additional Fokker 100 jet aircraft
directly. Should Skywest decide, in its sole discretion, to complete the acquisition, the aircraft would also be
available in the fleet around August 2011.
VIRGIN AIRCRAFT
Skywest is enjoying significant strategic growth and the arrangements with Virgin Australia could lead to a
doubling of Skywest’s overall fleet size with the addition of up to 18 additional ATR-72 aircraft. It is expected
that the first Virgin Australia aircraft will be delivered new from the factory to Skywest on 30th June 2011. This
first Virgin Australia-branded ATR-72 is expected to operate commercially by 29th August 2011. Notwithstanding
the growth in the national scope of operations associated with the Virgin Australia wet lease, Skywest also
maintains a core business strategy to expand its operations in respect to contracted scheduled charter and
additional RPT services.
NEW ROUTES
Skywest is proud to announce that in support of the expansion of operations in the Mid-West of Australia, it is
planning to expand operations to offer a weekly service from Geraldton to Denpasar, Bali for leisure and
commercial travelers. Sales of tickets for this route will commence on 22nd May 2011. Tickets may be
purchased on-line at Western Australia's Leading Regional Airline - Skywest Airlines and through associated sales channels.
Furthermore, Skywest intends to provide connectivity from Geraldton through to the Pilbara and Geraldton to
the East Coast of Australia to Melbourne from July 2011, supporting Western Australia’s bush community.
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Where is it??
Where has FNP gone. Have heard a rumour that it has retuned to Melbourne.I guess it is because it has had a few problems over the last few months. Have also heard that the Cloudbreak mob could be looking for a new supplier and I do know that Strategic have been doing the run for a little while now. If Skywest do retain the contract and get the "sister Ship" to FNP that maybe the due dilligence be done more thoroughly to avoid having (not my words) Two(2) Hangar Queens. Its looking interesting.
