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Old 15th Mar 2010, 00:10
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Airlines PNG to Asia

Any idea what Asian destinations APNG have in mind following their announcement last September that they had applied for traffic rights to a number of Asian cities?

Would they use their Dash-8's or presumably get something bigger?
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ATR's arriving very soon am told.
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Airliners.net give a variety of ranges for ATRs depending on the model.

Distance Calculator - Cities Near Papua New Guinea – Port Moresby shows the range of cities from Port Moresby.

Indonesian destinations seem to be the obvious choices but the Southern Philippines or East Malaysia could come into play depending on model of ATR, how long people are prepared to sit in a turbo prop and if the operator wants the same crew to do the return flight.
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There is a ATR 72 DRW-POM currently.Just about to leave DRW .Malaysian registered.
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John Wild has long had a dream of operating a B737 from Malaysia and Indonesia to PNG. As soon as APNG obtained their International AOC John was looking at the possibilities of this type of operation.
John was always keen to open up new routes as he did with POM-DAU-Merauke; TBG-DAU-CNS; Alatau-CNS;POM-TSV non stop.
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John Wild is no longer involved with APNG he retired, when it became a public company and the wild family is only a large share holder now.
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The ATR is up here I saw it departing Moresby about 7:30 this morning for Lihir. What model is it ? it looked longer than a DH8 300.
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ATR 72 as i posted previously

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ATR 72 as i posted previously

ATR 72 as i posted previously
Good Work- insightful that.......

The ATR is up here I saw it departing Moresby about 7:30 this morning for Lihir. What model is it ? it looked longer than a DH8 300.
Engaging auto manners and not being bothered to make the appropriate call..... /and not doing the research on the said "Malaysian Operator"........... to whom the said airframe is/maybe registered- can't imagine the manufacturer tasking a Demonstration tour with a 72-210...........

So given it appears to be longer than a "DH83" - I'd go with ATR72-500.... but leave me out of it and count the propeller blades for yourself, any more than 4 a side and I'd reckon you maybe in -500 territory (and all that goes with that).

The good news is Hamilton Standard (along with P&W) is/are involved so history would suggest on balance- the job's right...........

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I understand the ATR is for a specific contract.
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Are they getting more, do they need any endorsed 72 drivers?
Aus licence only at present.
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Any word on new destinations?
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As I understand it, Lihir Gold are looking for something more effective than the DH8-100 for Cairns / Lihir. The aircraft is in PNG for trials / proving. It belongs to Berjaya Air and they are exploring a 34 pax / 2.5T cargo config.

If it goes ahead the aircraft will be Cairns based, crewed by APNG and operating on behalf of Lihir Gold. I believe that Berjaya still anticipate delivery of 2 or 3 more aircraft, with a possibility that APNG may at some point seek to lease a further airframe to bolster their domestic commitment in PNG
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ATR 72 seen in Darwin again on Wednesday, Malaysian registered ., dressed all in white

Smoothie....
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APNG Buys New Aircraft

From today Post-Courier
Regional aircraft carrier Airlines PNG Limited has successfully negotiated to operate an ATR 72-500 aircraft to service the requirements of resource industry clients and the general public.
Airlines PNG commercial manager, Colin Whelan says that the addition to its fleet of this aircraft is just another way the airline is committing to significantly improving the quality of air services in PNG, while at the same time meeting strict client needs.
Mr Whelan described the ATR 72-500 as a “new generation” aircraft that was suited to the unique requirements of the PNG geography, offering short take-off and landing capability best suited to our rural airstrips. The ATR 72-500 is the stretched version of the ATR aircraft family with capacity for up to 74 passengers and is known for its versatility and capability to operate even in difficult environments.
The aviation company played host to the European regional aircraft manufacturer for a two day visit to demonstrate the ATR 72-500 aircraft to various stakeholders.
The two day exercise which began on Monday, in Port Moresby with initial demonstration flights to airfields throughout the country, followed by an inspection of the aircraft.
APNG said the ATR 72-500 was an exciting prospect for the aviation market in PNG. The company said the aircraft was an asset for enhancing the company’s product offering to corporate charter clients and the travelling public.
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Hey FB I thought you dont like people with melanesian mind frame, why the sudden interest? you and your friend are not still unemployed are you?
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Ahhh.. you again TW.. You really are a pain.. That particular comment was about a particular persons attitude, (if you noticed), seems you have the same attitude to 'stirring for stirrings sake'. Anyone else who has read my posts without an agenda like yours and your 'friends', would know my true feelings towards the Islands and the people who have their home there. Are you trying to be 'Racist' to me? Gutter tactics will only get you so far in this small industry before word about you gets around.
And to continue - it is good to see this part of the World finally assessing and considering using modern ATR equipment again after such a long period.
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DJJ?

So, correct me if I am wrong but it would appear that the only Asian destination APNG could fly to with their current fleet would be Jayapura.

Any idea if this is in their plans?

The only operator to show any interest after PX pulled out of this route was Air Efata, unfortunately they went under before they could commence flights.
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Hi AxelPNG
Word around the bond fire is that, they are looking at Manila Singapore etc, B757,A321, was thrown around 7miles a few months ago but now its gone quiet hav'nt heard anything lately, On the Flight International Website they mention APNG are looking at wet or dry leasing options for a jet a/c for their asian ports.
My understanding on the ATR, its for mining contract(Lihir) for now, rumours that one or two other mines are also interested in the ATR. and if ATR people play there cards right they might even convince APNG to go ATR for the whole fleet.....who knows anything is possible..... only good things are on the horizon for APNG
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Thanks Wantok. Sounds great. Always good to have a few extra 'escape' routes on the horizon. There is nothing quite like the first San Mig or Tiger shortly after take-off enroute from POM to SIN...
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