F/A Falls from Qantas Aircraft at Uluru
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Just an observation... When base in PER in 2006 I observed NJS 717s with the R1 door open without a catering vehicle in sight. Is that SOP?
When I worked for an airline where the cabin crew were responsible for door closure we were forbidden to place our feet outside the aircraft (onto the stairs) whilst closing the door. What is Cobham's policy in relation to this?
When I worked for an airline where the cabin crew were responsible for door closure we were forbidden to place our feet outside the aircraft (onto the stairs) whilst closing the door. What is Cobham's policy in relation to this?
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ditzyboy: I believe it is an SOP of theirs and then put up the safety barrier. Also the L1 door closure if completed by cabincrew as there is a 'squeeze to release' handle the crew need to use to release the bayonett which anchors the door to the aircraft. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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will QF safety get involved?
I know qf dont want to hurt people but I get the distinct feeling its more about lessening their liability.
Recently got a new type of 737 tow bar.Safety group recommended some changes.Nah, qf pass around a bit of paper saying you've been trained & been warned about the numerous safety issues and sign it.Bl00dy things still can crush your foot but if you do its your fault.
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Lessening liability
Those of you who work at a particular major airport may fondly remember the 'safe stair climbing' course. I still treasure the certificate that states I am competent to use stairs. 
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'safe stair climbing' course
May one enquire as to the content of this 'course,' and its benefits?
I think I shall have another glass of good Aussie Red.
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Pinky, sadly no, I never do... 
The content involved a two hour classroom session (complete with powerpoint) followed by several hours of climbing up and down aerobridge stairs in various aircraft configurations while being assessed from below by the accredited stair trainer. One of the participants was rather unfit and nearly passed out after the fourth configuration, which possibly would have made him Australia's first safety course related fatality.
The benefits were to absolve the stair owner of liability in the event of someone doing something unapproved. There had been an incident where a person had been seriously injured on said stairs (due, unfortunately, to their own ineptitude) and the owner was worried about future lawsuits. The siren, flashing light and big sign saying 'do not use when stairs are in motion' were not considered sufficient warning.
Cheers to your red! Mine's Italiano tonight, but the sentiment's the same.
(P.S. I do not want to make light of this F/A's accident and I'm very glad she's not more seriously injured. If safety procedures need to be tightened up then so be it. I just get tired of OH&S for its own sake, as IMO it's become a self perpetuating industry).
The content involved a two hour classroom session (complete with powerpoint) followed by several hours of climbing up and down aerobridge stairs in various aircraft configurations while being assessed from below by the accredited stair trainer. One of the participants was rather unfit and nearly passed out after the fourth configuration, which possibly would have made him Australia's first safety course related fatality.
The benefits were to absolve the stair owner of liability in the event of someone doing something unapproved. There had been an incident where a person had been seriously injured on said stairs (due, unfortunately, to their own ineptitude) and the owner was worried about future lawsuits. The siren, flashing light and big sign saying 'do not use when stairs are in motion' were not considered sufficient warning.
Cheers to your red! Mine's Italiano tonight, but the sentiment's the same.
(P.S. I do not want to make light of this F/A's accident and I'm very glad she's not more seriously injured. If safety procedures need to be tightened up then so be it. I just get tired of OH&S for its own sake, as IMO it's become a self perpetuating industry).
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