QF Intl Schedule Changes (Rumours)
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QF Intl Schedule Changes (Rumours)
Hi all,
Now most of us know about the "proposed" plan to run the A332s on AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL from mid year.
Here are a few others I have heard recently:
*SYD-JNB-SYD to increase from 6x weekly to daily from mid year.
*SYD-HNL-SYD B763s to be replaced by A332s.
*The current daily SYD-NRT-SYD A333 services to be replaced with B744s from June.
*The spare A333s from the replaced NRT services will be deployed to replace the last remaining Intl B763s on the SYD/BNE-MNL and PER-NRT services also from June.
Anyone know/heard more.....
Now most of us know about the "proposed" plan to run the A332s on AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL from mid year.
Here are a few others I have heard recently:
*SYD-JNB-SYD to increase from 6x weekly to daily from mid year.
*SYD-HNL-SYD B763s to be replaced by A332s.
*The current daily SYD-NRT-SYD A333 services to be replaced with B744s from June.
*The spare A333s from the replaced NRT services will be deployed to replace the last remaining Intl B763s on the SYD/BNE-MNL and PER-NRT services also from June.
Anyone know/heard more.....
It is about time they took 767s off the international routes. If I had paid full fare for a ticket and had to endure 9 hours down the back of one of them I would be dirty,
I know they are reliable and all but enough is enough when QF international is supposed to be a premium product.
I know they are reliable and all but enough is enough when QF international is supposed to be a premium product.
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[I]The current daily SYD-NRT-SYD A333 services to be replaced with B744s from June.
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Now who was the Marketing genius who dreamed this one up. The QF approach to Japan has been an abomination for the past 15 years. First it was the Old "classic"-742's aircraft, flying to a mish mash of ports , then the 747-300,then pull out of most ports, then JQ...........finally new equipment -A330.
......... No-lets change it back to the "less modern" 744.
No wonder pax are totally confused with the Qantas Group brand/presence in Japan-are they really serious???? or is it a question of maintaining those precious slots we keep hearing about in NRT ! ??
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Now who was the Marketing genius who dreamed this one up. The QF approach to Japan has been an abomination for the past 15 years. First it was the Old "classic"-742's aircraft, flying to a mish mash of ports , then the 747-300,then pull out of most ports, then JQ...........finally new equipment -A330.
......... No-lets change it back to the "less modern" 744.No wonder pax are totally confused with the Qantas Group brand/presence in Japan-are they really serious???? or is it a question of maintaining those precious slots we keep hearing about in NRT ! ??
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At the moment the airbus service is regrettably very popular with the customers out of Tokyo reportedly. This situation has to change if the overall objective of getting Qantas out of Japan is to be achieved.
Previous attempts to run this service down so JQ can have a clear run at Japan have so far failed.
In this light pulling a superior cabin product off the route makes sense. No doubt the oldest and most run down of the B744's will service the destination. And as a bonus, when the load factors are not there to justify a -400 level of available seats, management can trot out the old chestnut about Syd-Nrt being a significant loss maker which Jetstar will have to go and save.
Previous attempts to run this service down so JQ can have a clear run at Japan have so far failed.
In this light pulling a superior cabin product off the route makes sense. No doubt the oldest and most run down of the B744's will service the destination. And as a bonus, when the load factors are not there to justify a -400 level of available seats, management can trot out the old chestnut about Syd-Nrt being a significant loss maker which Jetstar will have to go and save.
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stubby,you forgot to mention Jetstar mark I.
In other words AO and before any ex AO crew start going on about it being well liked by the Japanese,you only have to ask one question.
Why did they get rid of AO if they were so good?
How many times were we told about Japanese culture and how appearances were everything.Then not only do they use aircraft that should have been sitting in a desert but then they put on a LCC to close the deal.
Even then that wasn't cheap enough so they came up with AO mark II which we all know as Jetstar.
No wonder the Japanese still prefer to go to Hawaii.
In other words AO and before any ex AO crew start going on about it being well liked by the Japanese,you only have to ask one question.
Why did they get rid of AO if they were so good?
How many times were we told about Japanese culture and how appearances were everything.Then not only do they use aircraft that should have been sitting in a desert but then they put on a LCC to close the deal.
Even then that wasn't cheap enough so they came up with AO mark II which we all know as Jetstar.
No wonder the Japanese still prefer to go to Hawaii.
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Thanks for the correction T-Bar re: AO.
How quickly one forgets ! I still remember Dixon sprouting on at a Roadshow about AO not impacting on QF services.
Like me -you probably did that Zenergy Japanese program-Hell, at one time it was like...."everything Japanese is good-making 35% of our profit".
Under Menadue it was........Lets give them Asahi beer, Japanese choice of meals, Miso soup flasks ( I've still got mine for fishing trips!) Japanese Newspapers, Japanese base, Heaps of speakers, codehares with JAL, Inflight Sky Shopping-you name it -we pelted it at them. Then......... pffffft !
Now with JAL on its Knees begging for a bailout and 15,000 JAL employees about to go-just makes you wonder what the fcku happened.
How quickly one forgets ! I still remember Dixon sprouting on at a Roadshow about AO not impacting on QF services.
Like me -you probably did that Zenergy Japanese program-Hell, at one time it was like...."everything Japanese is good-making 35% of our profit".
Under Menadue it was........Lets give them Asahi beer, Japanese choice of meals, Miso soup flasks ( I've still got mine for fishing trips!) Japanese Newspapers, Japanese base, Heaps of speakers, codehares with JAL, Inflight Sky Shopping-you name it -we pelted it at them. Then......... pffffft !
Now with JAL on its Knees begging for a bailout and 15,000 JAL employees about to go-just makes you wonder what the fcku happened.
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What happened in Japan ?
Three things happened:
1. QF sent inferior product to Japan which kept breaking down
2.The Japanese economy tanked
3.Australia has become a "T-shirt destination...visit,buy the T-shirt... go home..no reason to return
1. QF sent inferior product to Japan which kept breaking down
2.The Japanese economy tanked
3.Australia has become a "T-shirt destination...visit,buy the T-shirt... go home..no reason to return
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Joburg,MEL and The A380
Rumour:
The QF 63 will begin flying out of MEL around June
The A380 will fly to JoBurg for the Soccer World Cup
The QF 63 will begin flying out of MEL around June
The A380 will fly to JoBurg for the Soccer World Cup
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I have no idea whether the A380 JNB rumour is true or false, but since you would want additional Westbound seats ahead of the Cup, why not fire up a flagship flight, allow crew rest, and fly it home empty?
Too many whingers here.
Too many whingers here.
380 to JNB
cant imagine why they would send an A380 to JNB just for the soccer.... the logistics would be a night mare i would imagine
I'll keep my fingers crossed anyways.
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Sounds like a reshuffle to get over the non-delivery of B787's and a pathetic attempt to react against V Australia's plans. All the flights are ex-SYD so that heavily congested postage stamp will continue to suffer from Qantas hubbing while the rest of Australia slowly gets sick of going via SY and being pushed onto the inferior JQ product. HO hum more of the same from Coward Street.
Sounds like a reshuffle to get over the non-delivery of B787's and a pathetic attempt to react against V Australia's plans.
Most people would agree with you that the hubbing through SYD is excessive and detrimental to pax not disembarking in Sydney. Perhaps, instead of having all their eggs in one basket, Qantas should establish another hub in BNE to give more flexibility to pax going on to other destinations. Geographically, Brisbane is the obvious choice as the alternative hub but it wouldn't please DJ management.
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dont think that V Australia will be flying to JNB any time soon apparently there are some ETOPS issues.
And the Cabin Crew cannot be planned in excess of 18 hours under the "minimum award" now in place. Will be interesting to see where this goes....
And the Cabin Crew cannot be planned in excess of 18 hours under the "minimum award" now in place. Will be interesting to see where this goes....
dont think that V Australia will be flying to JNB any time soon apparently there are some ETOPS issues.