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Old 18th Jan 2010, 08:33
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They would have looked at this before CASA approves the route.....surely.
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 09:35
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oh i am sure they can get the CASA ETOPS approval... the routing however would put them over the max hours for the CC apparently
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 09:46
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What is ETOPS?
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 11:43
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dont think that V Australia will be flying to JNB any time soon apparently there are some ETOPS issues.
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oh i am sure they can get the CASA ETOPS approval.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 05:34
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On my flight back to SYD the day before yesterday, had a sales bloke onboard who said the A330 had just been 'oficially' approved for the LAX-JFK-LAX sectors, couldnt say when it will start though, or who would be crewing it (from a cabin crew perspective). He said the approval only came in the day before.

Can we do such a long day with no horizontal crew rest? (again from a cabin crew point of view - I know the techies have their own 'day-spa' on the A330 )
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 05:52
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it certainly wont be a shuttle .... if the A330 is being used and i say "if" it is being used then the company will slip the cabin crew and the tech crew in NYC
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 06:18
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Addition to NYC Shuttle Rumour

The OBMs will be QAL and the rest of the crew will AKL Based.
The tech crew and QAL OBMs will slip in NYC.
The AKL based crew will complete the shuttle.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 06:59
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OK it's domestic, but this from the latest QF Frequent Flyer bulletin:

Qantas Increases Domestic Flight Capacity

The end of 2009 welcomed an exciting increase in Qantas domestic flight capacity, just in time for the summer holiday period. We are now celebrating the addition of 19 return services across selected domestic routes as well as a number of brand new Boeing 767 aircraft, which are replacing the smaller Boeing 737 aircraft. We will add more than 340,000 domestic seats in 2010.
"brand new Boeing 767 aircraft"?
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 07:17
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The OBMs will be QAL and the rest of the crew will AKL Based.
The tech crew and QAL OBMs will slip in NYC.
The AKL based crew will complete the shuttle.
Could "management" be so stupid ?
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 20:54
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Management Stupid?

A rhetorical question
The answer is obvious....they are that stupid
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 22:03
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i think that you will find that there will be "no" shuttle. And most premature to suggest that it will be AKL based crew.

I know that if i were management it would probably be the most "efficient" way to crew the flight but not if you wanted to have any level of ......no i am not going to go there.

Just be patient, i am sure that it will be a combination of crew as it has always been and not just AKL based as has been suggested.
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 22:21
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You have to remember that this is merely supposition and might just be yet another rumour.

I'm sure the airline has the best wishes of crew at heart...

However,if it is true you have to put yourself in their shoes for a moment...

I know that for a rational normal pragmatic person that is difficult but when you think of some of their past ideas it makes sense....to them at any rate.

Firstly,they managed to get a dispensation for cabin crew to operate the shuttle.Now they are going to have to come up with an answer for the people upstairs so convincing that they can keep their jobs...even though the aircraft given to them to do the job is rumoured to make the TOD far in excess of the current average...

So to do the job they simply put people in there that don't have hour limitations that apply to QAL crew....if this is true fatigue is obviously not a concern of theirs...

Secondly,this continues a proud tradition of divide and conquer....

If the rumour is true and they are basing tech crew in LA for a month this creates some friction simply because they are not doing this with cabin crew but then if the other rumour is also true they crew the aircraft with a mixture of QAL crew and AKL crew and create even more friction...

The AKL crew see the QAL crew getting off in JFK and working less hours and getting more pay...

What's that song again...."There's a fraction too much friction..."..

Forget I still call Australia home this could be the new theme and it's from a Kiwi band to add insult to injury ....
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 22:58
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Lobey..

If the rumour is true and they are basing tech crew in LA for a month this creates some friction simply because they are not doing this with cabin crew
Surely you can't be serious?

Patterns differ greatly between TC and CC. I bet they do use AKL CC and that makes sense seeing the a/c runs through the place. At the same time I bet they don't use AUS CC to run SY-AKL-LAX-JFK-LAX-AKL-SY as the pattern would be too long. Hence the reason they'll probably put the techies up in LAX for a month!
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 23:20
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Wingspar...

No, I'm not suggesting that the company would do this just to pi$$ the cabin crew off but it does fit in with their liking to divide and conquer so think about the scheduling for a minute...

If they are going to have different crew complements (ie A330,380 and 747)in LA then why not base an A-330 cabin crew there as well...Both Tech crew and QAL crew are based in Sydney so if they do use QAL crew on the JFK trips and they are basing the SYD tech crew in LAX for a month then why not the cabin crew as well....

I could be wrong but as far as I know there are no AKL based crew who are OBM's....So if that's the case they will have to be Aus based as the tech crew are...

As I said this is all supposition at the moment so we will have to wait until this is actually happening to make suggestions.

So lets see what happens,I was just trying to lighten up the thread a bit.

and don't call me surely...
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 23:36
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Very good
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JAL Bankruptcy

The current circumstances with JAL may provide some route opportunities for Qantas.
Unfortunately Jet Star will be the likely benefactor.Changes at Haneda Airport will also likely benefit Jet Star.
The proposed jumbo service to Japan may not materialize
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