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Any truth to the rumour that Jetstar has contracted Strategic to provide STBY cabin crew over Christmas and new year?
Any truth to the story that Darwin based Jetstar cabin crew are plotting disruption?
Has Jetstar cancelled flights during the last three months after dispatch with minimum crew and subsequent crew illness?
I have on good authority that the Jetstar International Cabin Manager (Jan) stated to a group of pilots, that in her opinion, Team Jetstar crew had a "bad attitude", were "selfish", should be "thankful to have a job". And further; that said attitudes will change "after a few sackings".
The big question: Do Jetstar management live on the same planet as front-line staff?
Does what go around, still come around I wonder???
Any truth to the story that Darwin based Jetstar cabin crew are plotting disruption?
Has Jetstar cancelled flights during the last three months after dispatch with minimum crew and subsequent crew illness?
I have on good authority that the Jetstar International Cabin Manager (Jan) stated to a group of pilots, that in her opinion, Team Jetstar crew had a "bad attitude", were "selfish", should be "thankful to have a job". And further; that said attitudes will change "after a few sackings".
The big question: Do Jetstar management live on the same planet as front-line staff?
Does what go around, still come around I wonder???
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6 weeks ago your post would have been noteworthy as 'rumour'
Nothing here is a shock and I suggest most JQ staff are in the knowledge of what it is they are proposing to do over Christmas/New Year.
Management are there to manage the fallout and shock horror! That's exactly what the contingency is!!!
How dare they!
Nothing here is a shock and I suggest most JQ staff are in the knowledge of what it is they are proposing to do over Christmas/New Year.
Management are there to manage the fallout and shock horror! That's exactly what the contingency is!!!
How dare they!
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"We really need your help Bill, any chance of operating your next 767 service Perth - Sydney via Darwin we've got hundreds of punters waiting to get away.
I appreciate alot of your crew will be on leave cause we've been picking up your flying. But any chance they would be able to work thru Christmas & the New Year."
I appreciate alot of your crew will be on leave cause we've been picking up your flying. But any chance they would be able to work thru Christmas & the New Year."
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The first rumour could not be true. There is no way anyone other than a Jetstar trained and checked cabin crew member will be allowed to operate on an RPT service operated by Jetstar employees. There is no way they will mix crew. Unless they also have Strategic pilots on Standby. You can`t have Jetstar pilots with Strategic CC operating under different SOP`s. If they have undertaken training and been checked then maybe......
As for you Qantas guys trying to stick a knife in the back.
We wouldn`t take those crappy 767`s, they would be a blight on our operation using our BRAND NEW, state of the art Airbuses.
If we did use them, it wouldn`t be at no cost. The cost to our reputation would be catastrophic. We may have only made $110million last year, but WE DID make money. And it would have been alot more if the mental giants running us didn`t squander countless millions on trying to screw us as much as they do.
As for you Qantas guys trying to stick a knife in the back.
We wouldn`t take those crappy 767`s, they would be a blight on our operation using our BRAND NEW, state of the art Airbuses.
If we did use them, it wouldn`t be at no cost. The cost to our reputation would be catastrophic. We may have only made $110million last year, but WE DID make money. And it would have been alot more if the mental giants running us didn`t squander countless millions on trying to screw us as much as they do.
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State of the art is a bit over the top.
A320 first entered service around 1988.
767-300 first entered service around 1986.
I dont think that 2 years made a huge difference, albeit the 767-200/300 started development well before that.
The A320's may be newer, but the 767 over the years has proved itself a pretty reliable workhorse. Hence why it is always sent to pick up Jetstars stranded passengers.........
A320 first entered service around 1988.
767-300 first entered service around 1986.
I dont think that 2 years made a huge difference, albeit the 767-200/300 started development well before that.
The A320's may be newer, but the 767 over the years has proved itself a pretty reliable workhorse. Hence why it is always sent to pick up Jetstars stranded passengers.........
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The first rumour could not be true. There is no way anyone other than a Jetstar trained and checked cabin crew member will be allowed to operate on an RPT service operated by Jetstar employees.
We wouldn`t take those crappy 767`s, they would be a blight on our operation using our BRAND NEW, state of the art Airbuses.
The cost to our reputation would be catastrophic.
We may have only made $110million last year, but WE DID make money.
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As for you Qantas guys trying to stick a knife in the back.
We wouldn`t take those crappy 767`s, they would be a blight on our operation using our BRAND NEW, state of the art Airbuses.
We wouldn`t take those crappy 767`s, they would be a blight on our operation using our BRAND NEW, state of the art Airbuses.
I have personally done one, and have 4 close friends that have done likewise. And it has been a lot more than just that. Initially it was SYD - HNL, now it is the domestic routes. Mine was MEL - BNE. And yes, a Citiflyer was cancelled to do it. Certainly doesn't help Qantas profitibility and definately aids Jetstar profitibility when you don't need to have normal reserve options or cancel flights.
As for cost - I'm sure it isn't nil cost too, but it doesn't need to be. I'll sure as hell bet it isn't at a commercial rate like for ANG.
In terms of Strategic crew - It'd take a matter of 2 or 3 days MAX to have them approved to operate Jetstar flights, and there is no cross crew problem if they just crew a whole flight with them. I hope you are ready for the fight and you don't just continue with the head in the sand.
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I have personally done one........Mine was MEL - BNE.
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What is ironic about the 767 being a blight on our operation and your passengers saying the same thing.
3 weeks to do the Jetstar ground school for cabin crew, not 3 days.
And no pilots would not be allowed to operate with crew that haven`t done that course.
ACARS is a minimal cost, the A320 doesn`t have SATCOM. We`ll be right.
As previously stated, what is the age of the oldest 767 (20years) V`s 5 years for the oldest 320 in the fleet. What is the age of the youngest 76. I have no idea, would have to be at least 10years V`s 5months for the 320.
Not once have I defended Jetstar management, which is what this thread is related to. Though, they did give me a job, so, thanks.
Considering none of my facts have been disputed, how have I got my head in the sand? You guys took it down the us versus them path!
3 weeks to do the Jetstar ground school for cabin crew, not 3 days.
And no pilots would not be allowed to operate with crew that haven`t done that course.
ACARS is a minimal cost, the A320 doesn`t have SATCOM. We`ll be right.
As previously stated, what is the age of the oldest 767 (20years) V`s 5 years for the oldest 320 in the fleet. What is the age of the youngest 76. I have no idea, would have to be at least 10years V`s 5months for the 320.
Not once have I defended Jetstar management, which is what this thread is related to. Though, they did give me a job, so, thanks.
Considering none of my facts have been disputed, how have I got my head in the sand? You guys took it down the us versus them path!
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3 weeks to do the Jetstar ground school for cabin crew, not 3 days.
ACARS is a minimal cost, the A320 doesn`t have SATCOM.
As previously stated, what is the age of the oldest 767 (20years) V`s 5 years for the oldest 320 in the fleet.
You guys took it down the us versus them path!
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3 weeks to do the Jetstar ground school for cabin crew, not 3 days.
And no pilots would not be allowed to operate with crew that haven`t done that course.
And I bet the punters where really p&$$#d off they got the 767 with the QF service at J* rates as opposed to the state off the art airbus.
Thats all besides the point - the reason Qantas was brought into this discussion was that the O.P was talking about strategic providing backup crew for christmas, when its completely unnecessary because whenever they have an issue big brother comes to dig them out of it!
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I think you will find this type of thing is quite easy. Qantas does it all the time with Air Nuigini cabin crew on Qantas 767 with Qantas pilots when their aircraft is in for heavy maintenence.
Reading the financial statements it appears as though most of that profit your crowing about came about by JetStar hiring its A330's to itself????
can't work it out ,obviously some sort of accounting hoodoo Voodoo.
The first rumour could not be true. There is no way anyone other than a Jetstar trained and checked cabin crew member will be allowed to operate on an RPT service operated by Jetstar employees. There is no way they will mix crew. Unless they also have Strategic pilots on Standby. You can`t have Jetstar pilots with Strategic CC operating under different SOP`s. If they have undertaken training and been checked then maybe......
. We may have only made $110million last year, but WE DID make money.
can't work it out ,obviously some sort of accounting hoodoo Voodoo.
. Obvious now I read it closely.