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Good luck to the guys and gals there; they have been waiting a long time! First mention of it happening on this rumour network was Sept 04
I too will believe it when I see it!
http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-reporting...eathstars.html
I too will believe it when I see it!
http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-reporting...eathstars.html
Have no doubt...this will happen. I also remember a few naysayers on this forum when they started flying to Broome with their first F100 in 2003 that it wouldn't last, now they have 10.
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I'd like to share your confidence in the matter Topend. I really would!
I wouldn't call myself a 'naysayer' just cautiously optimistic with a hint of skepticism for the guys and gals at skywest.
Hedging, Financing and other Operational Matters - London Stock Exchange
A quote from that release (the fat controller??): -
And the relevant article...
Airlines boost fleets for next rescources boom - The West Australian
I wouldn't call myself a 'naysayer' just cautiously optimistic with a hint of skepticism for the guys and gals at skywest.
Hedging, Financing and other Operational Matters - London Stock Exchange
A quote from that release (the fat controller??): -
It has been brought to the attention of the Company that a media report that appeared in the West Australian on 14 December 2009 suggested that the Company had formally committed to certain additional aircraft. This media suggestion is incorrect, at this time no formal commitments have been made. It is the case that several candidate aircraft for expansion purposes are under consideration....
Airlines boost fleets for next rescources boom - The West Australian
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Unfortunately I can't see the Skywest crew operating the 320 for a very long time. They will come crewed as they will require experience for a start up on the 320 and the numbers will not be large enough to warrant a career progression initially. The first few years will be captain and captain with a few FO's.
But then again I could be wrong.
But then again I could be wrong.
I disagree regarding the crewing of any A320 aircraft (IF it shows up), I was involved heavily in the introduction and training on the F100 between March 2003 and the beginning of 2007 and the XR crews were well capable of transition on to the F100 with a few exceptions. They now have a considerable amount of jet training and operational experience in house. Of course they will need some Airbus expertise in the start up. The biggest headache will be the backfilling onto the F50 and F100.
Good on them, only wished they'd got 757s or 767s as I'd be back in a flash as its bloody cold here!
Good on them, only wished they'd got 757s or 767s as I'd be back in a flash as its bloody cold here!
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Well yes, BRM in the F100 worked, however KGI-MEL did not, and we have been waiting for the A320 for nearly 5 years, so a 33% strike rate 
I think you will find CASA will insist on FBW experienced pilots as they did with Jetstar, and the 717 was more similar by a country mile than the F100, technology wise.
I think you will find CASA will insist on FBW experienced pilots as they did with Jetstar, and the 717 was more similar by a country mile than the F100, technology wise.
Well yes, BRM in the F100 worked, however KGI-MEL did not, and we have been waiting for the A320 for nearly 5 years, so a 33% strike rate
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Which will come first the A320 or on time arrival and departure out Learmonth for the Tuesday flight back to Perth?
such intelligent rationale
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Qote "I was involved heavily in the introduction and training on the F100 between March 2003 and the beginning of 2007 and the XR crews were well capable of transition on to the F100 with a few exceptions".
"....With few exceptions"
One being the Chief Pilot.....................................
Qote "I was involved heavily in the introduction and training on the F100 between March 2003 and the beginning of 2007 and the XR crews were well capable of transition on to the F100 with a few exceptions".
"....With few exceptions"
One being the Chief Pilot.....................................
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I rarely dig into this sort of debate, however,
I also had a great deal to do with the training, mainly endorsement and revalidation in the Simulator for the F-100, over 50 pilots in fact.
There was a CP who, before my time, did not achieve the endorsement, and is now at CASA in a senior position, so sometimes for all of us at a particular time and place do not achieve but are still value to the system.
All I had the privilage of training passed, some better than others as is the norm for all such processes.
Skywest have gone from 5 F-50s in 2003, to 8 F-50s and shortly 10 F-100s. an effort not too many organisations could handle. It is a tribute to ALL who slaved away at the task that was and still is, to achieve the goals set by the variations of the Industry in WA.
I no longer am associated with Skywest, no more Jepps, no more stress ECGs, lots more time at home, got my own "BUS endorsement, 57 seats, school run, still have fun in crosswinds!!
Will watch and wait as we should all do as to the future of the process, nothing has really changed since 1967 when the first boom got underway which I viewed from a DC-3, it still is WA, it still is boom and bust, the seasons come and go as do Airlines and their Managements and the cyclones.
C YA
I also had a great deal to do with the training, mainly endorsement and revalidation in the Simulator for the F-100, over 50 pilots in fact.
There was a CP who, before my time, did not achieve the endorsement, and is now at CASA in a senior position, so sometimes for all of us at a particular time and place do not achieve but are still value to the system.
All I had the privilage of training passed, some better than others as is the norm for all such processes.
Skywest have gone from 5 F-50s in 2003, to 8 F-50s and shortly 10 F-100s. an effort not too many organisations could handle. It is a tribute to ALL who slaved away at the task that was and still is, to achieve the goals set by the variations of the Industry in WA.
I no longer am associated with Skywest, no more Jepps, no more stress ECGs, lots more time at home, got my own "BUS endorsement, 57 seats, school run, still have fun in crosswinds!!
Will watch and wait as we should all do as to the future of the process, nothing has really changed since 1967 when the first boom got underway which I viewed from a DC-3, it still is WA, it still is boom and bust, the seasons come and go as do Airlines and their Managements and the cyclones.
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Spoken like a true gentleman Greybeard :)
Agree with all you said Greybeard... we're often too quick to be negative and judge companies and their management about what they are doing currently, but in regards to Skywests growth over the past 5-6 years, the proof is in the pudding 
XR have done extremely well and I wish them all the best for the future, although I still won't believe the whole A320 thing until I see it parked out the front of Terminal 3 with the cats ar*e proudly painted on the tail
XR have done extremely well and I wish them all the best for the future, although I still won't believe the whole A320 thing until I see it parked out the front of Terminal 3 with the cats ar*e proudly painted on the tail
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Cocos/Christmas Service
Media release today from the office of Brendan O'Connor announces the awarding of the Perth to Cocos/Christmas Islands to Virgin Blue using Embraer E190s. Skywest must have other plans for their A320.
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HKF,
keep in mind Geoff Thomas is a writer and not part of Skywest so its his best guess the number of seats, and just a heads up before u make anymore incorrect statements, the KGI-MEL was working....
keep in mind Geoff Thomas is a writer and not part of Skywest so its his best guess the number of seats, and just a heads up before u make anymore incorrect statements, the KGI-MEL was working....
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Skywest A320 - No longer a rumour
From Flightglobal.com:
Australia's Skywest secures its first A320
By Leithen Francis - 8 January 2010
Avation, an aircraft leasing company linked to Australia's Skywest Airlines, has signed a letter of intent to purchase an Airbus A320 that it plans to lease to Skywest.
The A320 "is currently in service in the UK and is at this time owned by" an international leasing company but Avation has paid an initial deposit of $150,000 to buy the aircraft, says Avation.
"The total cost of the aircraft to enter service is approximately $11 million with a base purchase price of $8.6 million," it says.
Avation gas secured interest free vendor finance in respect of $7.8 million over a three-year period, says Avation.
It says it plans to place the aircraft with Skywest on an operating lease and that it will announce later the details on this.
Skywest today operates a fleet of Fokker 50s and Fokker 100s on a scheduled and charter basis.
Skywest's managing director of charter operations, Hugh Davin, told ATI last October that the airline is aiming to add its first A320 in mid-2010 and hopes to add a second A320 soon after that.
It plans to use the A320 primarily for mining charters.
Skywest and Avation's chairman is Jeff Chatfield and several of Skywest's Fokker aircraft are leased from Avation.
Australia's Skywest secures its first A320
By Leithen Francis - 8 January 2010
Avation, an aircraft leasing company linked to Australia's Skywest Airlines, has signed a letter of intent to purchase an Airbus A320 that it plans to lease to Skywest.
The A320 "is currently in service in the UK and is at this time owned by" an international leasing company but Avation has paid an initial deposit of $150,000 to buy the aircraft, says Avation.
"The total cost of the aircraft to enter service is approximately $11 million with a base purchase price of $8.6 million," it says.
Avation gas secured interest free vendor finance in respect of $7.8 million over a three-year period, says Avation.
It says it plans to place the aircraft with Skywest on an operating lease and that it will announce later the details on this.
Skywest today operates a fleet of Fokker 50s and Fokker 100s on a scheduled and charter basis.
Skywest's managing director of charter operations, Hugh Davin, told ATI last October that the airline is aiming to add its first A320 in mid-2010 and hopes to add a second A320 soon after that.
It plans to use the A320 primarily for mining charters.
Skywest and Avation's chairman is Jeff Chatfield and several of Skywest's Fokker aircraft are leased from Avation.
