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Sick pilot unable to land Qantas jet in Perth

Old 30th Oct 2009, 02:22
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Sick pilot unable to land Qantas jet in Perth

A QANTAS plane landed safely in Perth this morning after calling for assistance when a pilot became incapacitated.

The airline confirmed that flight QF593 from Adelaide had issued a “pan" alert and asked to be met by an ambulance after one of the pilots suffered a health issue, The Australian reports.
The Qantas 737-800 from Adelaide carrying 110 passengers left Adelaide about 6.50am (local time) and touched down in Perth at 7.30am.

An emergency was declared by the co-pilot and air traffic control vectored the aircraft onto the longest runway 21/03, thewest.com.au reports.

After touch down the aircraft came to a halt on the runway and a tug was required to tow it to Perth’s Qantas domestic terminal.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 02:35
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a complete non-event

An ambulance attended the airport to treat the captain as he walked off the plane.
Terrible journalism: it's an aircraft; not a 'plane.'
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 02:40
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From the SMH:

An emergency was declared at Perth Airport this morning when a Qantas 737-800 landed with an incapacitated captain in the cockpit.

The plane landed safely with 110 passengers onboard traveling from Adelaide.

The flight QF593 left Adelaide about 6.50am (local time) and touched down in Perth at 7.30am.

The co-pilot and air traffic control navigated the aircraft onto the airport's longest runway and after it touched down, a tug was used to tow it to the Qantas domestic terminal.

An ambulance attended the airport to treat the captain as he walked off the plane.

He has since been taken to a Perth hospital to be checked-out and will remain in Perth to recover.

Qantas spokeswoman Kristy McSweeney said the captain had suffered from a "minor" health problem in the air and called ahead for the ambulance.

It is understood the captain fell sick about an hour away from Perth.

Ms McSweeney said the captain was not integral to the take-off or landing of a plane, with the first officer capable of landing the plane safely.

She said the flight was not delayed and the plane will continue on its planned flights.
And my favourite bit:

Ms McSweeney said the captain was not integral to the take-off or landing of a plane, with the first officer capable of landing the plane safely.
Can see the subsequent NTFS now:

NTFS 381/2009

All Captains are hereby summarily dismissed as they are no longer deemed integral to the operation.

First Officers and Second Officers may now consider themselves Captains, until they too are no longer are integral to the operation, in which case clause 1 of this NTFS will apply.
How I love Corporate Communications.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 03:25
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Why would they have needed a tug?
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 03:33
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Why would they have needed a tug?
Think about it!
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 03:43
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i certainly appreciate the odd tug now and again myself i am sure a first officer is not immune to the significant benefits
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 04:04
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Thank god that FO knew how to land the plane, who knows what could have happened
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 04:06
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good one Pegasus....

Glad it was a "happy ending" in Perth
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 04:45
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Originally Posted by tio540 View Post
Think about it!
Just a guess, but would it be that the ambulance was waiting at the end of the runway after they touched down to take the Captain away ASAP? In so doing the engines were shutdown, and thus the requirement for a tug back to the terminal?
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 04:52
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and the QF media woman says:

"Qantas spokeswoman Kristy McSweeney said the captain had suffered from a "minor" health problem in the air and called ahead for the ambulance.
It is understood the captain fell sick about an hour away from Perth.

Ms McSweeney said the captain was not integral to the take-off or landing of a plane, with the first officer capable of landing the plane safely.

She said the flight was not delayed and the plane will continue on its planned flights."


Watch out QF skippers, you are no longer required in the cockpit.

Sorry boys and girls, didn't see the first post.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 04:53
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The simple reason for requiring a tug is that QF 737's do not have a steering tiller on the F/O's side.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 04:54
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Furthermore, the nose in guidance is configured for the pilot in the left hand seat. SOPs dictate that the aircraft will be parked by the pilot in the left hand seat.

If the left hand seat pilot is incapacitated a shut down and tow-in is required.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 05:05
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Geez - how many H/S exits are there at PH - if the FO had a fighting chance at making a H/S then he prob would have taken it off the runway - next time have a good at taking a 90degree exit with just the rudders
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 05:06
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Wow, another slow news day in Oz.

The F/O if he was game maybe could have used the rudder and differential brakes to get off the runway then stop to be towed, however nothing wrong with what he did.

The parking from left seat only thing can be forgotten by simply asking for a marshall. However on the 73 that wouldn't help as there is no tiller on the right ( as pointed out above )
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 05:19
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Originally Posted by Woftam
The simple reason for requiring a tug is that QF 737's do not have a steering tiller on the F/O's side.
Aren't the recall items for pilot incpacitation of the captain, according to folk lore:
  • Call CSM
  • Have impostor removed from LHS
  • Take rightful seat
  • Log command hours

Tongue in cheek folks.


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Geez - how many H/S exits are there at PH
NONE.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 05:24
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The parking from left seat only thing can be forgotten by simply asking for a marshall
Not true as per SOPs. Doesn't matter whether there's a marshaller or not. LHS pilot will park the aeroplane.
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Strange system you have in QF!!

Most other Airlines in the World allow the F/O to park the Aircraft IF the tiller is fitted AND the docking system can be used from the right seat, or a marshall is in place.

We've been allowing this for years in CX and not once has anything un-toward occured. I've found most F/O's quite able to park the beast.
With the Captain backing up on the brakes and watching the terribly complicated taxying manoeuvre it's a no brainer.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 06:06
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Yup. But whaddya do? Them's the SOPs.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 06:39
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The following SOP's apply when the Captain becomes incapicitated,

1. Make a note of the exact time so that you can log it as command time and also claim the extra pay for being the captain,

2. Remove crusty old fart from the LHS, may require the assistance of Flight Attendants this is where that recently completed CRM course comes in handy

3. Remove wallet from crusty old farts pocket and take any excess cash etc,

4. Take photo on your mobile in the Captains seat and email to wife, mistress, family and to that cranky old flying instructor that said you would never amount to anything.

5. Get company ops to contact your stockbroker then Harry M Miller,

6. Then get ready to land this sucker without all that advice coming from crusty old fart in the LHS seat.

On a more serious side hope the QF Captain is back in the cockpit asap and a job well done by the FO
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 06:47
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gotta love journalists. The actual story on news.com.au was portrayed on the webpage as:

Sick pilot unable to land Qantas plane


CO-PILOT forced to land plane after captain becomes sick during flight with 110 people on board. Notice how 'Pilot: Passengers told to pray' was immediately below the story as if its somehow linked??? #hit stirrers is what they are.
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