Qantas:EP Predeparture Checks Reintroduced
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Qantas:EP Predeparture Checks Reintroduced for CC
As from the 1st of September 2009 EP predeparture checks will be re introduced.
5 questions will be asked--- 2 EP questions 2 CSO questions and one medical.
Will the caviar be making a comeback in P/C?
With Qantas everything old is new again .Ho Hum
5 questions will be asked--- 2 EP questions 2 CSO questions and one medical.
Will the caviar be making a comeback in P/C?
With Qantas everything old is new again .Ho Hum
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its about time that they took this seriously. The only thing crew have to remember is that you do it AFTER the briefing not before.
About time the important stuff was taken care of. Personally would rather they cut the briefing by 5 mins to include this and cut the crap about something going on at the Qantas Hill Song Centre!
About time the important stuff was taken care of. Personally would rather they cut the briefing by 5 mins to include this and cut the crap about something going on at the Qantas Hill Song Centre!
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
Some questions if I may...
Who is going to ask the EP questions?
If its the managers they may meet a few crew they didn't know existed.
Is it only SYD or will other Aust bases be included?
Has it been agreed with the FAAA that questions will be asked after the briefing? It will make precison timing more of a challenge.
What happens if you answer incorrectly?
Thanks
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Some questions if I may...
Who is going to ask the EP questions?
If its the managers they may meet a few crew they didn't know existed.
Is it only SYD or will other Aust bases be included?
Has it been agreed with the FAAA that questions will be asked after the briefing? It will make precison timing more of a challenge.
What happens if you answer incorrectly?
Thanks
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my understanding is that the EP instructors will be asking 5 questions. you will need to get 4/5 correct if you get less than 80 % then like EP's you will be asked subsequent question/s to get 80%. A fail will mean removal from the flight and an EP total resit and exam.
Apparently been operating in London for some time and no one has failed up there. Not designed to "catch" people out but to comply with latest missive from CASA.
EP instructors will use the same level of common sense that they always have and it will be done fairly i am advised.
As far as when you do the test....
Will be apparently only one (1) person per crew that will be requested to participate. And will only be done something like 2 days per week. Not sure what days or whether they will be the same days or random like D&A tests.
Crew can do it prior to sign on in a room allocated for the purpose and when you do the electronic sign on you will be notified by Pop up screen whether you are required to attend.
If you do it after the briefing you should notify the CSM that you are going so the bus can be held for you. No penalty for doing it before or after briefing....
That's all i know at this stage
Apparently been operating in London for some time and no one has failed up there. Not designed to "catch" people out but to comply with latest missive from CASA.
EP instructors will use the same level of common sense that they always have and it will be done fairly i am advised.
As far as when you do the test....
Will be apparently only one (1) person per crew that will be requested to participate. And will only be done something like 2 days per week. Not sure what days or whether they will be the same days or random like D&A tests.
Crew can do it prior to sign on in a room allocated for the purpose and when you do the electronic sign on you will be notified by Pop up screen whether you are required to attend.
If you do it after the briefing you should notify the CSM that you are going so the bus can be held for you. No penalty for doing it before or after briefing....
That's all i know at this stage
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Stupid suggestion/Idea...
Why on earth would "mis" management ever bring back someone who was not only competent, humourous and experienced but popular too.
Sometime butterfield i wonder whether you are at crew drinks when making these posts
Why on earth would "mis" management ever bring back someone who was not only competent, humourous and experienced but popular too.
Sometime butterfield i wonder whether you are at crew drinks when making these posts
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Why on earth would "mis" management ever bring back someone who was not only competent, humourous and experienced but popular too.
Your last line...
Sometime butterfield i wonder whether you are at crew drinks when making these posts
I just hope the new crew engage in these activities as much as we did....a very important part of the job.
tmpffisch...The Pre-departure EP checks are questions involving Emergency Procedures.These procedures are required by law for crew not only to be aware of but up to date with any of the latest amendments....In fact these procedures are the primary reason cabin crew are on board for....
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Obviously some people don't read what is in the top left hand corner of their screen - Professional PILOTS Rumour Network. Don't cabin crew have their own forum?? Go there....
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Obviously some people don't read what is in the top left hand corner of their screen
An independent family of forums covering all aspects of the Australian/NZ aviation scene.
Obviously
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Mods, the biscuit chuckers, etc, are really having a lend of you.
After all your huffing & puffing about CC intervention in this forum where these posts clearly should be in the CC Forum thees people are having a big lend of you, trying you on.
Little posts, purely CC just to test your resolve.
Either you are fair dinkum or not; move them to CC!
DK
After all your huffing & puffing about CC intervention in this forum where these posts clearly should be in the CC Forum thees people are having a big lend of you, trying you on.
Little posts, purely CC just to test your resolve.
Either you are fair dinkum or not; move them to CC!
DK
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Obviously some people don't read what is in the top left hand corner of their screen
Chef,is that where this is written.
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An independent family of forums covering all aspects of the Australian/NZ aviation scene.
Or do you think All aspects of aviation is just the flight deck?
Obviously
Obviously some people don't read what is in the top left hand corner of their screen
Chef,is that where this is written.
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An independent family of forums covering all aspects of the Australian/NZ aviation scene.
Or do you think All aspects of aviation is just the flight deck?
Obviously
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An independent family of forums covering all aspects of the Australian/NZ aviation scene.
Not a forum for pilots to talk about everyone else.
Moderators,If it wasn't for a minority of pilots using antagonistic and disparaging terms such as trolley dolley and biscuit chucker then there would far fewer arguments and problems for the mods.
if these few pilots cannot live in a world with other people what hope is there for CRM.
Well,Green Goblin it is fairly clear to most people that it says a family of forums covering ALL ASPECTS of aviation.
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Not a forum for pilots to talk about everyone else
You have your own forum on here as the Pilots have been "generous" enough to grant you that privilege, however, you bit the hand that fed you and now "we" are stuck with you and clearly "we" don't want you.
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I support the reintroduction of the EP quiz.It not only checks to see if crew know their job but also makes the EP day easier if you have been preparing for the quiz all year.
I agree also that it should be done after the sign on
I agree also that it should be done after the sign on
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