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Qantas BKK Cabin Crew base to close???

Old 5th Aug 2009, 06:18
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Qantas BKK Cabin Crew base to close???

Looks like Qantas will finally close the BKK base.

Contracts expire end of this roster and not 1 Thai crew has a carry out duty.

The new bid book shows Aus crew now to do the QF1 and QF2 to LHR and return with full Aus crew compliment.

All other thai crew trips, eg FRA, NRT etc have been given full Aus crew compliment with no spaces for thai crew in the planning.

Also crew were told to start looking for other work this week by base management as they have ben given no answers.

Usually the base gets a contract 30 days before exprirey of old one, but there has been none issued and repeated requests have gone unanswered.

IT will be sad to see our BKK close, they have been great workers and source of many fun times (and a few drama's).

Hope its just another QF oversight and they will be flying again soon.
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It is so appallingly typical of Qantas management to have treated the Thai based cabin crew in such an offhand, uncaring and disrespectful manner.

Some of whom who's individuals have given outstanding service to the company and it's passengers for something like 10 years.

How have they found out about what appears the imminent base closure????

The new bid books that show they've no flying allocated to them.

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Looks like my source was spot on or at least the rumour is....
loyalty |ˈloiəltē|
noun ( pl. -ties)
the quality of being loyal to someone or something
As usual the definition does not exist in the vocab of those at Mascot....

If I was in any of the bases/office/anywhere in the network I would be updating my resume....

To those who said the London base will never shut...think again because anything is possible....
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Old 5th Aug 2009, 06:49
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LHR base will be taking over QF9/10 to/from London to Singapore for the next roster.
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Old 5th Aug 2009, 07:05
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If BKK closes I would say CR for Aust. bases will follow close behind.
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It is so appallingly typical of Qantas management to have treated the Thai based cabin crew in such an offhand, uncaring and disrespectful man
Agreed. Lets hope its not true.

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Thumbs down Sawadee Can't

......if this rumour is indeed true then its an absolute disgrace.

How can these morons get away with treating people with such contempt. The BKK base had its initial critics at start up ( and I was one of them !!) BUT they turned out to be the backbone of the LHR services as time went on.

Hell,.... a group of them came down to the PER base when we first got the CDG patterns to ensure we were up to speed with procedures etc as many of the newies in PER had not operated on a 744.........the Thai crew were a brilliant support.

Now to be told via a pattern book........is mean spirited, inhumane and totally unacceptable.

HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME.......CC Management

I guess you will trot out the usual platitudes about business down turn etc etc. Fine- if you have to shut the base ( and I know what its like to be in a base that is shafted.....thanks to MH )....but do it with respect and dignity and tell people face to face not via a pattern book.......you heartless clowns.

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Cloudsurfing ,

you are absolutely right.

Stupid and insensitive of me for sullying the thread with off topic comments so both posts that have offended you will forthwith be removed.

I wouldn't for one moment want to deflect attention away from the contemptible actions of Qantas cabin crew "management"....................
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I was so hoping the thread title was a misprint and it was actually,

Qantas SYD Cabin Crew base to close!
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Oh, and stay on topic by ignoring the trolls.

You know who will desperately want this thread shut down........
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Smile

At the first sign of a bitchfest this thread will be deleted.

Keep it civil, you lot.
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Tidbinbilla...

In all fairness this is a clearly labelled cabin crew thread.I'm sure that tech crew or anyone interested in aviation are more than welcome to post constructive information...

However....in just 11 posts we have at least 2 individuals who have made provocative posts designed to start a fight...

One individual in particular makes no posts in pilot related threads and only turns up to start a fight or inflame the situation in cabin crew threads....

Back to the topic and I don't agree with twigss at all.

if the company has closed the Thai base it is more likely to be because there are more crew than there is flying...

By closing down the Thai base they are simply creating more flying for those crew in Australia...It does not neccessarily mean CR in the Australian bases.In fact it means that they don't want to offer CR or VR to Australian based crew because if that was the preferred option they would have offered VR or CR before closing down the Thai base...
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Can I just say, after all the vitriol thrown at the foreign CC bases, that the opinions expressed here so far are not what I expected to see. Rather refreshing actually.

Funbags... poor form.
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I agree with lowerlobe and Cap Kremin. Although it is quite sad for the individuals involved, surely by getting rid of surplus overseas based crew, it means more flying for QAL / QCCA Aussie based crew?

I am no FA but to me it seem like a win for the locally based crew, with perhaps jobs saved and more flying in these economically challenging times.


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The Base The Insult

The LHR base only worked well due to the professionalism and work ethic of the BKK base.If that closes the quality of service and indeed the level of service will decline rapidly and markedly.
The LHR base should be closed.The Thai base should stay.
Its not about service its about cost.The Thai base provides the service and the LHR base saves money.In short the LHR base is cheap.Pay peanuts get monkeys
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Yes...........

No Thais on the A380..........
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I'm sorry, do LHR crew only fly to BKK? Do they or do they not achieve higher satisfaction scores then all Aus crew on ALL 3 of the sectors they operate?

It's time some of you got a grip and move on rather then dedicating your time to slagging your colleagues off. After all, there not going anywhere.

This is a thread to discuss our BKK based friends, not to evoke bitterness towards LHR. Without the cost saving provided by LHR and BKK, the truth is a lot of you would likely be out of a job by now.
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The reason I believe that twigggs is wrong is simple and it also shows what motivates the company....

The answer is pure and simple...money.

As far as I'm aware if CR is utilised then it's last on first off....If that's the case and the company has a surplus of crew in relation to the amount of flying then obviously it has to reduce the number of crew.

If it offers CR then it will be the new QCCA crew that will be taking the bullet so to speak......and this is the last thing that the company would want.

So to stop this from happening they (may) have decided to axe the Thai base.This gives more flying to the Australian based crew and helps prevent the loss of jobs here....or more specifically QCCA jobs.

The company desperately wants the QCCA crew because it saves them a fortune...Just as Jetstar tech crew are cheaper than mainline tech crew.

If this theory is right and the base closure is to stop the loss of QCCA crew then I wouldn't want to be in any of the other overseas bases....

I agree with the others that in the main the Thai crew were fantastic workers and if this rumour is true it is a very sad indictment on the way the company works.

If this is unfortunately the case I wish the Thai crew the best for the future and hope they can find a suitable job hopefully with another airline soon...

kÚp koon kup ........
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anyway

it is sad to see the Thais go. they have greatly contributed to Qf developments in Lhr.However it was the last base under Addecco contracts and i cant see any reason to continue handing out money to those arrogant buggers. remindes me of the regional Addecco boss who praised his thai slaves whilst slurping away on vintage champas,etc.in first class on the way to Syd to talk to Qf management. the reason the Syd based Qf crew will do BKK/LHR is that it is cheaper (overtime) for LHR base to do long range sectors LHR/SIN/LHR.
I too can see VR being offered later this year. lets hope this happens as I have spoken to a number of collegues who are seriously waiting for the package.
another rumor is that the A180 is coming off the Syd-Lax run and will do daily Lhr flights. Syd based crew have a lot of 5 day LAX Trips back in the bid book.anyone can confirm this??
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.......not wanting to let a golden opportunity to pass.

I fronted one of our "esteemed" CC managers last night on this issue.

SJ-Question: is the BKK base being closed?

CCM Answer: Oh amm mmmm oh alll mmmmm .....'not really sure......'where did you hear this ? Yes probably -I think.

WHAT .....DOES THAT MEAN YES IT IS ?

For people who do not work in our world.......this is what we are subjected to everytime we set foot on QCC/1 ( our sign on area) These so called " managers" have constant stricken looks on their faces and are always darting in and out of meetings then back behind the glass windshield which offers their only protection from crew wanting answers to serious questions.

Its MANAGEMENT BY FEAR...... the 21st century phenomenon

If AJ is serious about getting the airline ..."back to basics and core business" then he should seriously consider spending some money on development of these poor coots OR sack the lot of them and start again with PEOPLE PEOPLE who have management skills.......with 6% unemployment......I reckon there woukld be heaps out there that could run rings around this lot.
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