Qantas BKK Cabin Crew base to close???
No one likes to see people losing their jobs, but let's face it, if closing the BKK base means people in Australia keeping their jobs then I'm all for it.
At the end of the day it's an Australian airline and that should mean as many Aussies as possible interacting with passengers. I still cringe a bit when I hear LHR based CSMs with strong northern pommie accents on the PA.
At the end of the day it's an Australian airline and that should mean as many Aussies as possible interacting with passengers. I still cringe a bit when I hear LHR based CSMs with strong northern pommie accents on the PA.
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What do you say to them when they come up and openly ask if you know what's happening with their jobs?
It's truly heartbreaking to see the looks on the faces of these quality people.......
What did I say? "I'm sorry but I just don't know" and, "we don't work for very nice people".
What did I want to say?
We work for filth...........
It's truly heartbreaking to see the looks on the faces of these quality people.......
What did I say? "I'm sorry but I just don't know" and, "we don't work for very nice people".
What did I want to say?
We work for filth...........
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BKK Base Inefficiencies
While the Thai Crew are a success story constructing patterns for them has always created inefficiencies----- deadheading and pattern length.If the rumours are true and the base closes it will be a great loss.They made the UK base look good.The A380 has problems with service standards because the Thai Crew dont operate on it.
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It will be disappointing if the Thai employees get the punt
My experience with them has been entirely positive.The ones I know and have flown with work damned hard and done so with a smile and taken more than their share of cr@p along the way.
My experience with them has been entirely positive.The ones I know and have flown with work damned hard and done so with a smile and taken more than their share of cr@p along the way.
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At the end of the day it's an Australian airline and that should mean as many Aussies as possible interacting with passengers. I still cringe a bit when I hear LHR based CSMs with strong northern pommie accents on the PA.
There are more chinese, spanish, german etc cabin crew working out of Australian bases than I care to point a stick at.
Do a PVG or PEK and see how many Aussie sounding crew are on those.
What a stupid statement to make.
I for one will miss the Thai crew if this is true. They do raise the level of service in our airline in all our bases.
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Thanks for that Ditch, I knew you would have accurate information.
HTF you would know is beyond me though.
Let's hope that their experience in QF opens up many more opportunities for them.
HTF you would know is beyond me though.
Let's hope that their experience in QF opens up many more opportunities for them.
There are more chinese, spanish, german etc cabin crew working out of Australian bases than I care to point a stick at.
Do a PVG or PEK and see how many Aussie sounding crew are on those.
Do a PVG or PEK and see how many Aussie sounding crew are on those.
It's not about being "aussie sounding".
What I was referring to with the Thai/LHR crew is completely different.
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Originally Posted by twiggs
Just thinking about the number of aircraft that the Thai crew were operating on and how many days a week that is and then how many would be in slip ports or time off at home,holidays etc...30 Thai crew seemed a little light to me ..but then that claim is par for the course...
Then we get this which as usual is antagonistic....
Well,Twiggs if Ditch is correct are you willing to post an apology on PPRune?
I would guess only about 30.
Then we get this which as usual is antagonistic....
HTF you would know is beyond me though
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So what you are saying Transition Layer is that a someone from Northern UK as a CSM is cringeworthy while a CSM who was born the Northern UK but who moved to Australia and taken out citzenship but still has his Northern UK accent is not.....
When you've taken your foot out of your mouth I think you should take up your offer on another thread for yourself and funbags not to read cabin crew threads ... especially with your logic.
I still cringe a bit when I hear LHR based CSMs with strong northern pommie accents on the PA.
Yes but they are Australian residents/citizens and live here permanently (apart from the odd long-distance commuter). We are very much a multicultural society and these people working for QF are simply a cross-section of that society.
It's not about being "aussie sounding".
What I was referring to with the Thai/LHR crew is completely different.
It's not about being "aussie sounding".
What I was referring to with the Thai/LHR crew is completely different.
When you've taken your foot out of your mouth I think you should take up your offer on another thread for yourself and funbags not to read cabin crew threads ... especially with your logic.
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Twiggs ,
I fly.
..... and then this-
Official confirmation that the base is closing ???
How about having the decency to actually tell them..........
HTF you [me] would know is beyond me though
..... and then this-
Let's hope that their experience in QF opens up many more opportunities for them.
How about having the decency to actually tell them..........
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So what you are saying Transition Layer is that a someone from Northern UK as a CSM is cringeworthy while a CSM who was born the Northern UK but who moved to Australia and taken out citzenship but still has his Northern UK accent is not.....
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The accent of the CSM is simply an indication that the job is being done by foreign crew when it could be done by an Australian, regardless of what they sound or look like
What if you have a naturalised Australian from Scotland,Manchester,Belfast,Berlin or wherever....and they obviously have their native accents...
Are they any different from a local in the London base with the same accent ?
However,I do take your point that jobs that can be done by Australians is a better option than having the job done by foreign nationals....from a purely nationalistic point of view.
Does that mean that you are against foreign bases for Qantas crew that takes away work from Australians,naturalised or not....?
In short, no I don't agree with foreign bases (be that cabin or tech crew) if they're made up of almost exclusively foreigners doing a job that could be done by Australians, preferably in Australia.
The idea of Australian nationals based overseas is great, however this was shown to be a failure with the LHR base which started with plenty of Australian nationals but has dwindled down to very few.
Anyway, I've had enough of this lowerlobe... (wish there was a smilie with a white flag!)
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Well see Transition Layer,we agree on something......
I have always believed that an overseas base with Australian crew transferred from home is far and away preferable....
Not exactly true Transition Layer...There have been other bases in London over the years for both cabin crew and tech crew which have worked very well.
This base as all bases saves on accommodation costs,transport costs and meal allowances...
The problem is that this was not enough for Darth.
The problem with this base is that you can't live on the money that you are paid....You have to go on LWOP and forgo your Super....accommodation and other costs of living in the UK are horrendous...and this is basically too much to ask for any Australian crew that are thinking of taking up the offer.
Unless you have relatives who live near Heathrow it really is a huge cost.If you are single and you can share with a few friends it might be worth it for a year or so but......
it's a big ask.
I could be wrong but wasn't there a similar deal with S/O's moving up to Singapore that turned out to be a lemon because it wasn't very attractive?
I have always believed that an overseas base with Australian crew transferred from home is far and away preferable....
The idea of Australian nationals based overseas is great, however this was shown to be a failure with the LHR base which started with plenty of Australian nationals but has dwindled down to very few.
This base as all bases saves on accommodation costs,transport costs and meal allowances...
The problem is that this was not enough for Darth.
The problem with this base is that you can't live on the money that you are paid....You have to go on LWOP and forgo your Super....accommodation and other costs of living in the UK are horrendous...and this is basically too much to ask for any Australian crew that are thinking of taking up the offer.
Unless you have relatives who live near Heathrow it really is a huge cost.If you are single and you can share with a few friends it might be worth it for a year or so but......
it's a big ask.I could be wrong but wasn't there a similar deal with S/O's moving up to Singapore that turned out to be a lemon because it wasn't very attractive?
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Interesting spin at crew voice today ...when asked why the thai crew dont have any patterns next bid period... the responce... wait for it....
" there is currently a surplus of crew and we are putting them on reserve in bid period 266"
" there is currently a surplus of crew and we are putting them on reserve in bid period 266"