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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 10:30
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I would gladly swap for a crew meal. The garbage being served in J/C at present in mostly pretty awfully (if you are luck enough to get one in the first place).
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 10:38
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Staff travel Generates Income

Around 10 years ago Staff travel generated around $11million dollars in revenue.Since the cost of Staff Travel to the company is minimal the profit generated was generous.
If Staff Travel was better packaged it would generate more revenue.
As it is at present it is more cost effective for many staff to travel on carriers other than Qantas.
It is surprising that the bean counters havent realized that staff travel customers are going elsewhere and as a result Qantas is losing revenue.
These seats would otherwise be empty if not for staff and would therefore be revenue neutral.
As an aside there is very little food left in J and P class after the pirahna masquerading as customers have finished.J and P class could be quite easily renamed O class(O for Obese).
FF is actually an acronym for "farking fat"
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 11:06
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Short Circuit, the hot crew meals are exactly the same as what the pax get on the flight. The only difference being, the crew often have to eat it while pax stand there staring at them like they've never seen anyone eat a meal before. (yes we are entitled to our breaks, although some pax react as though it's the most cheeky thing in the world!)

And before people start about crew ebing spoiled, we're only entitled to meals on certain flights.

back to the topic at hand. More often than not, it's cheaper to fly Dj confirmed than it is to use a staff ticket. And less hassle!
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 11:18
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Lightbulb Crap service isn't just on the ground....

Whilst I agree that there are some ground staff who seem to get some sort of pleasure of watching staff travelers run for flights, the lack of service is occasionally apparent in the air. I've not staff traveled often but my gripes about service when I have traveled would mirror that of our normal customers. It varied between wonderfully attentive, supportive and excellent on some occasions to woefully inattentive and dismissive on others.

I think this is the thing that kills us time and again in competition with others carriers. We're simply not consistent.

As to the rest of the argument (ST as a profit centre, the crappy system, the fuel surcharges on what would be an empty seat, etc) I couldn't agree more. It's a seriously crap system and fixing these things would do wonders for engagement.
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 11:20
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Crew Meals and Diverticulitis

Crew meals are laden with trans fat,salt and processed carbs.
Every crew member who has been flying for more than 10 yrs should have a colonoscopy.
Where quarantine permits take you own food.
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 11:29
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Consistency

Whilever QF has off shore bases and has 5 payscales amongst its CC consistency will be elusive if not unobtainable.Just look at the problems with consistency the LHR base have.Hence a number of Sydney based crew being sent north and some LHR based crew being sent south.
For better treatment all round as a staff passenger never travel QF.
It aint worth the stress
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 23:47
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well it seams like i have hit a nerve .....if what you and pegasus say is that they are crew meals then i will pull my head in .....but you would have to agree that just after the j-class meals have been served a crew member is walking aft with a tray of meals covered with a tea towel looks a bit like cc having j-class meals...btw this is on a 767 and i agree that if a crew meal is for you then you have the right to eat it i just hope all other cc have the same ethics.....tech crew meals stored up front but the cc meals on a 767 arnt they stored in the stowages next to the garbage openings in aft galley sorry cant remember the stowage number...just asking
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 23:51
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hey packrat is that what the cc are calling it now ...a colonoscopy.....LOL sorry could not help that hope i will not get banned.... thought they would be getting one long before 10 years
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 02:24
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The Rim's True Colours

The rim is a homophobe who makes a lot of assumptions.
Never assume anything.
What you think you see is not necessarily fact.
I choose a vegetarian crew meal and give it away to passengers who have missed out on a special meal.
I eat before I go to work and when I get off the aircraft.
I never eat on board.
As far as travel staff is concerned its rubbish.i havent used staff travel since the mid nineties.
Every job has its perks.Banks give employees favourable interest rates .Stores give staff discounts on merchandise.If you are a BMW employee you will receive a consideration when buying a vehicle.
It just seems that airline employees and their perks are an easy target.
Mr.Rim what do you do and what are your perks?
Probably company paid trips overseas,free stationary,a company phone account,an expense account,company car,salary sacrifing your kids private school fees and a reduction in the cost of your company's products
Very few customers in J or P class pay for their own airfares and yet have the temerity to complain about crew having a meal.
Every occupation allows for meal times and bathroom breaks.Many still allow for a smoko.
Cabin Crew it seems are not allowed any of these rights.
Thou shalt not covet a crew members meal.
Rim you need to get a life and stop worrying about what other people are receiving that you are not.
Get a job with an airline if it bothers you so much.
BTW "rim"has certain unpleasant and unsavoury connotations..and that is not an assumption..its fact
No...you havent hit a nerve...I am just intolerant and unaccepting of fools and their assertions and assumptions

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Old 24th Jul 2009, 08:07
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as cc i guess my next colonoscopy is due 21 dec 2012.
'bout time fuel surcharges are dropped so staff travel with QF rather than EK etc.
apparently UK is bringing in a carbon tax on tickets to their fair shores. the longer the flight the higher the tax so it will be much cheaper to fly to mainline europe and use another ticket onto london... so long as mainland EU doesn't follow suit!
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 08:29
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argusmoon if you care to read my post i did say that all workers had the right to meal breaks ....i do work for the red rat and have done for some time so i do speak with some knowledge of what goes on and have done a huge amount of travel both as duty and holiday....my advice to you is to lighten up a little and read these posts in the way they are meant
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 08:51
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The Rim.The Name

Says it all really.
CC meals are stowed in a meal cart in the rear galley.
Nowhere near the garbage disposal.
It is agreed however that tidying up staff travel would improve morale.
Morale cant go any lower.Everyone except senior management is disengaged.
Jet* adds to the discontent as do offshore bases
AJ is not the one to fix it.Quite simply----he doesnt know how.

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Old 24th Jul 2009, 19:16
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I've not staff traveled often but my gripes about service when I have traveled would mirror that of our normal customers
Keg...Are all pilots of the same standard?

Do all pilots have the same personalities?

Has the company set up OS bases for the express purpose of lowering mainline pilots pay and conditions and thereby directly affecting the attitude of those pilots?

These questions are rhetorical because as a matter of fact I know mainline pilots that are so incensed with the behaviour of the company that they will not help out when asked by ops....

By your own admission you have not used staff travel often and yet you are telling us that your opinion of cabin crew mirrors that of the normal passenger.....How do you know what that is and how accurate that is especially considering that you have not flown as a passenger that often?

To suggest that Cabin Crew are the only people in the world who's attitude is affected by a company's behaviour and policy is more than a little biased and naive....
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 19:23
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well it seams like i have hit a nerve
Well,The Rim....If you are suggesting that there are Cabin Crew who would tell a passenger that their meal choice is not available simple so they could have it then...YES.........because that is a simply a fallacy.

If you see someone walking away from a galley with food it is because it is left over or it is a Crew meal.....
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 23:15
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sorry to all for sidetracking this thread on staff travel all i did was to respond to a cc post with what i have seen and thanks to lowerlobe [and with a name like that must have been around for some time] for your input ....back to staff travel as i have said before if they fix the pricing and the rourts that some times are done at check in i think its ok you only have to travel on other opreators to see that.....remembering years ago travelling overseas and it was a nice comfy feeling to get back onto a qf aircraft and these were the days of only y-class travel yes no j-class only first and dont think any staff were allowed in there...maybe captains as they were the days when a captain was the ceo
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 04:07
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Lowerlobe, don't take my comments so personally. The discussion here is about 'service'- particularly as it relates to the passengers.

I haven't staff traveled often but I travel relatively frequently either on duty travel or with my 'other' job. The service is mostly adequate to good, sometimes exceptional but when we 'miss' it's particularly bad.

I'm the first to admit that some techies provide average to poor 'service' to the remainder of the crew and passengers. Perhaps we are as inconsistent as the cabin crew service can sometimes be. The big difference is that our ability to impact adversely on the passenger experience is is somewhat limited when it's all going well.
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 05:04
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Don't worry about lobey, Keg. He is a retired LHCC who should be playing lawn bowls but loves to get stuck into us. Just like the way I get stuck into Sydney based LHCC!

The service is ordinary and that is why we need more Lhr based and QCCA crew to take over from the over the hill Sydney crew who see the job as a free ticket to their next shopping destination, and not to provide a service to the customers.

Bring on the QCCA crew, bring em on.
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 05:22
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oh the troll known as funbags is back!

anyway bring on the Jetstar pilots~ had a few of them paxing the other day, what pleasant personalities and very agreeable chaps!

come on bring them on!! !
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 06:05
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Real mature stuff being posted here....
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 06:08
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Mature?

It was humming along nicely until a certain troll turned up.
Staff travel?
A misnomer if ever there was one
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