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Old 22nd May 2009, 03:39
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787 Engine Run

Didn't see any other threads, so forgive me if I'm duplicating this...

A significant milestone, so it's worth noting.

Video: Boeing 787 - ZA001 - Engine Start - May 21, 2009 - FlightBlogger - Aviation News, Commentary and Analysis
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The birth of a new Boeing.
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Have posted on the other thread, wherever that is now, but the current plan is 1st of June at 10am Pacific time!

Lets hope all goes well between now and then!
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Hamilton Sundstrand's Boeing 787 APU Undergoes Initial Start-Up

(Windsor Locks, Connecticut, May 18, 2009) -- The Hamilton Sundstrand APS 5000 Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner had a successful initial start-up on Boeing's ZA001 development aircraft Tuesday, May 12. The testing took place at Boeing's Everett, Wash., facility. Hamilton Sundstrand is a subsidiary of United Technologies Corp. (NYSE: UTX).

"Hamilton Sundstrand is pleased to partner with the Boeing team to help achieve this success for the 787 Dreamliner," said Tim Morris, Hamilton Sundstrand president, 787 Programs. "Our employees have been committed to this program's success since its inception. We are all extremely proud to see it come to fruition."

APUs provide power to aircraft while they are on the ground, and provide in-flight back-up power. The APS 5000 APU is rated at 1,100 shaft horsepower and is designed to start and operate throughout the full range of the 787 operating envelope up to 43,000 feet. The APS 5000 is Boeing's first more-electric APU. It produces 10 percent fewer emissions and is 50 percent quieter than current Boeing 767 APUs. Hamilton Sundstrand Power Systems, based in San Diego, Calif., has more than 13,000 APUs in commercial and military service. The APS 5000 has accumulated 6,020 hours - including nearly 14,000 starts - in the qualification program and has demonstrated outstanding performance during cold weather and high temperature testing, icing and snow testing, altitude simulation and high vibration endurance testing.

In addition to the APU, Boeing chose Hamilton Sundstrand to provide the 787's environmental control system, electric power generation and start system, remote power distribution system, primary power distribution system and high-voltage DC equipment racks, emergency power system, nitrogen generation system, and electric pump subsystem. Hamilton Sundstrand's Kidde Aerospace & Defense business is supplying Boeing with the complete fire protection systems package for the 787. Rolls-Royce also chose Hamilton Sundstrand to supply the gearbox system for its Trent 1000 engine. The 787 program is expected to generate more than $15 billion in revenue for Hamilton Sundstrand over the life of the program.

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Interesting positioning of tail posn lights - either side of APU. Boeing once decided that the tail cone wasn't the place for them.

One of our guys managed to throw some cabin crew to the the floor by a big brake to stop an APU entering the front window one low vis night in Europe. He was taxying no2 to the runway behind a 757 and simply didn't see it.

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How do you simply not see a 757 in front of you when taxing ?.

Ladies and Gents, I am sorry, the bad 757 in front of us just pushed in. Come on
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How do you simply not see a 757 in front of you when taxing ?.
Probably the same way the KLM 747 didn't see a Pan Am 747 rolling on the reciprocal runway
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Probably the same way the KLM 747 didn't see a Pan Am 747 rolling on the reciprocal runway
I do not believe that this quote is entirely true. I believe that the PAN-AM was taxiing and missed it's turn-off, and the KLM took off without a confirmation that the "clipper" was clear.

The pan-am 747 was DEFINITELY not "rolling"!!!!!!

nice analogy, but shame about the facts.
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Thread drift maybe?
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oh dear.......

I would say EXACTLY the same way...... You can't miss what you can't see.
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The pan-am 747 was DEFINITELY not "rolling"!!!!!!

nice analogy, but shame about the facts.
Was it walking then?

Perhaps rather than rolling I should have used the word 'backtracking', regardless the message in response to 'not seeing a 757 in front during a period of poor vis in Europe' should have been loud and clear!
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Splashman

If you are not low viz ops qualified and practiced you have no idea!
Tried taxing when you can only see one light in front of you?
RVR relates to runway ops not taxyway ops, thats why the tranmissiometeres are on the runways.

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Low Vis Ops

I have 25 years of Low Vis Ops and training. Many of my fellow contributors have equal to or more experience. If you don't have any experience in this area please refrain from posting except for maybe a question because it makes you look foolish.
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Appologies to all about thread drift; however

Jed. I have no doubt there are many in this forum with considerable experience in such ops. My comment was directed at the comment of Mr Splashman, whom, it would appear, has no idea of how easily one could come to grief in low vis taxying, given that not all such movements are radar controlled.

For him to imply that a crew is automatically at fault because they "should have seen it" is an attack on a crew, that warrants defence.

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