Jet* NZ Interview.
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Jet* NZ Interview.
Hi folks, Interviewing with Jet* NZ shortly. I know the basic format of interview (HR and Line Pilot), 733/4 sim session and planning exersice, but would be greatful for any detail. Have flown glass cockpit turbofans globally for last 20 years, all long haul, but want to be able to stay in NZ and fly domestic for a while (kids now at an age where having dad at home more in the evenings would be very benefical). I have read many posts on the implications for the industry Jet* represents, but I need a job, and they are all that is happening here at the moment. If at all possible can I just have any info. on the day of the interview please?
Thanks. Oxy.
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from what i've heard about jetstar NZ and their crappy conditions, you won't need any interview info.......just turn up and you'll get the job you have always dreamed of...........
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I did not mean to sound so cynical (yeah, ok, I did mean to) BUT If you read that post again, that pretty much is what is gonna happen. J* are looking for gimps that will accept utter bull#$%^ as conditions and pay. So if you go in there and accept that, what are you?
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Feeding the family until a better opportunity offers itself. Or are you offering to contribute to my family's coffers to avoid me disgracing the profession? Thanks to those who answered my request. You help is gratefully recieved.
Regards,
oxymoron.
Regards,
oxymoron.
The easier life gets the more idealistic humans become.It's a luxury.
Some people will tell you they'd never hurt an animal.....easy to say when you're well fed and living in the western world. You could watch the same people kill an animal with their bare hands if they were hungry....I mean properly hungry.
Do what you have to do Oxymoron, these guys won't be around to help if your bills start stacking up and kids clothes start getting holes in them.
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Some people will tell you they'd never hurt an animal.....easy to say when you're well fed and living in the western world. You could watch the same people kill an animal with their bare hands if they were hungry....I mean properly hungry.
Do what you have to do Oxymoron, these guys won't be around to help if your bills start stacking up and kids clothes start getting holes in them.
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Oxymoron - before you attend any interview, you may want to contact NZALPA and find out what is really going on .....
Notice released from NZALPA to pilots :
Breach of the Employment Relations Act?
On Wednesday 29 April, NZALPA lodged proceedings in the Employment Relations Authority claiming that the QANTAS Group's decision to close its Christchurch Jetconnect base has breached statutory obligations under the Employment Relations Act 2000 and has also breached contractual obligations under the Jetconnect Collective Employment Agreement. Included in the proceedings is an application to stop the closure of the Christchurch base until the Authority can determine whether the breaches claimed did occur. NZALPA, having unsuccessfully tried to negotiate a sensible arrangement with Jetconnect/Jetstar since the February 17 announcement of Jetstar NZ commencing domestic operations in New Zealand and the Christchurch base closure for Jet connect pilots, has reluctantly been compelled to commence these proceedings.
Remedies we seek include;
· An injunction restraining Jetconnect from closing its Christchurch base
· A determination that Jetconnect has breached its good faith obligations by failing to consult with NZALPA and NZALPA's affected pilot members over the closure of its Christchurch base (and consequent transfer of that base to Auckland), and/or the change from domestic (New Zealand) operations to trans-Tasman operations.
· A determination that Jetconnect, being in breach of both its pilots Collective Employment Agreement (CEA) and also the Employment Relations Act (ERA) is liable to penalties.
· A determination that QANTAS and Jetstar NZ has incited, instigated, aided or abetted Jetconnect's breach or breaches of the Act and the Jet Connect pilots CEA and is accordingly liable to a penalties.
NZALPA's Principal Officers, Industrial Sub-Committee, Jetconnect Pilots Council and Board of Management made the decision to commence these proceedings because Jetconnect could/would not consider sensible solutions proposed by NZALPA as QANTAS had made the decision and it was out of Jetconnect's hands.
What is going on?
· QANTAS has determined to transfer its New Zealand domestic flying from Jetconnect to Jetstar.
· Our Jetconnect members are only able to apply for positions in Jetstar NZ in the same manner as any other applicant.
· Members, currently based in Christchurch, are being required to either move or commute at their own cost (after 90 days) while newly employed Jetstar NZ pilot's takeover their work in Christchurch.
· Jetconnect (QANTAS) have advised that should any member not accept the option of transfer or commute at their own cost, then "such a person's employment would end in due course, in accordance with the CEA"
· We have written to the Jetstar NZ representatives and Jetconnect in an attempt to encourage them to deal meaningfully with this issue - their replies indicate to us that the decision to restructure the New Zealand operations has been made by QANTAS in Australia and that this decision and its implications for staff was beyond their control.
· Jetstar NZ is offering individual employment agreements with terms and conditions below the industry standard.
· Given the National Party's pre election campaign included an interest in pay parity with Australia, we have separately written to the Prime Minister to appraise him of our concerns.
· NZALPA believes that the domestic flying planned to be carried out by Jetstar NZ is the work of our Jetconnect members and that Jetstar NZ is taking advantage of New Zealand Employment laws and aviation legislation to establish an operation in New Zealand offering less than industry standard pilot employment conditions to the detriment of New Zealand and Australian pilots.
· Our members face uncertainty as the QANTAS Group position themselves to take best advantage of New Zealand's open skies policies and the advantages they can secure in operating out of a base in New Zealand by offering greenfields Individual Employment Agreements.
NZALPA is opposed to this move by QANTAS to transfer the work of its employees. They have determined to disregard the provisions of both the Employment Relations Act and the Jetconnect pilots Collective Employment Agreement while at the same time introduce an Individual Employment Agreement containing sub standard terms and conditions of employment.
NZALPA will do everything in its power to constructively address this attack on our Jetconnect members and employment conditions in New Zealand.
I recommend you find out all the facts before you commit yourself (and put one of the guys at JetConnect - who probably has a family as well - out of a job).
Notice released from NZALPA to pilots :
Breach of the Employment Relations Act?
On Wednesday 29 April, NZALPA lodged proceedings in the Employment Relations Authority claiming that the QANTAS Group's decision to close its Christchurch Jetconnect base has breached statutory obligations under the Employment Relations Act 2000 and has also breached contractual obligations under the Jetconnect Collective Employment Agreement. Included in the proceedings is an application to stop the closure of the Christchurch base until the Authority can determine whether the breaches claimed did occur. NZALPA, having unsuccessfully tried to negotiate a sensible arrangement with Jetconnect/Jetstar since the February 17 announcement of Jetstar NZ commencing domestic operations in New Zealand and the Christchurch base closure for Jet connect pilots, has reluctantly been compelled to commence these proceedings.
Remedies we seek include;
· An injunction restraining Jetconnect from closing its Christchurch base
· A determination that Jetconnect has breached its good faith obligations by failing to consult with NZALPA and NZALPA's affected pilot members over the closure of its Christchurch base (and consequent transfer of that base to Auckland), and/or the change from domestic (New Zealand) operations to trans-Tasman operations.
· A determination that Jetconnect, being in breach of both its pilots Collective Employment Agreement (CEA) and also the Employment Relations Act (ERA) is liable to penalties.
· A determination that QANTAS and Jetstar NZ has incited, instigated, aided or abetted Jetconnect's breach or breaches of the Act and the Jet Connect pilots CEA and is accordingly liable to a penalties.
NZALPA's Principal Officers, Industrial Sub-Committee, Jetconnect Pilots Council and Board of Management made the decision to commence these proceedings because Jetconnect could/would not consider sensible solutions proposed by NZALPA as QANTAS had made the decision and it was out of Jetconnect's hands.
What is going on?
· QANTAS has determined to transfer its New Zealand domestic flying from Jetconnect to Jetstar.
· Our Jetconnect members are only able to apply for positions in Jetstar NZ in the same manner as any other applicant.
· Members, currently based in Christchurch, are being required to either move or commute at their own cost (after 90 days) while newly employed Jetstar NZ pilot's takeover their work in Christchurch.
· Jetconnect (QANTAS) have advised that should any member not accept the option of transfer or commute at their own cost, then "such a person's employment would end in due course, in accordance with the CEA"
· We have written to the Jetstar NZ representatives and Jetconnect in an attempt to encourage them to deal meaningfully with this issue - their replies indicate to us that the decision to restructure the New Zealand operations has been made by QANTAS in Australia and that this decision and its implications for staff was beyond their control.
· Jetstar NZ is offering individual employment agreements with terms and conditions below the industry standard.
· Given the National Party's pre election campaign included an interest in pay parity with Australia, we have separately written to the Prime Minister to appraise him of our concerns.
· NZALPA believes that the domestic flying planned to be carried out by Jetstar NZ is the work of our Jetconnect members and that Jetstar NZ is taking advantage of New Zealand Employment laws and aviation legislation to establish an operation in New Zealand offering less than industry standard pilot employment conditions to the detriment of New Zealand and Australian pilots.
· Our members face uncertainty as the QANTAS Group position themselves to take best advantage of New Zealand's open skies policies and the advantages they can secure in operating out of a base in New Zealand by offering greenfields Individual Employment Agreements.
NZALPA is opposed to this move by QANTAS to transfer the work of its employees. They have determined to disregard the provisions of both the Employment Relations Act and the Jetconnect pilots Collective Employment Agreement while at the same time introduce an Individual Employment Agreement containing sub standard terms and conditions of employment.
NZALPA will do everything in its power to constructively address this attack on our Jetconnect members and employment conditions in New Zealand.
I recommend you find out all the facts before you commit yourself (and put one of the guys at JetConnect - who probably has a family as well - out of a job).
Duck - The truth of the matter is Jetconnect is not Jetstar and never will be. These crews operating from CHC fly different airframes for different airlines, so why would JS give preference to these pilots. I also think you are trying to suggest that pilots apply for JS are somehow doing something wrong. I would also point out that little or no benefit can be made by contacting NZALPA, you would not receive a balanced view.
If you need a job Oxy go for it.
If you need a job Oxy go for it.
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As long as people take these jobs they will continue to offer less and less..Whilst they get people applying and accepting they will continue to think they are paying too much!!
Look at those cruise FO positions with V..GA pays more and if you really need the money apply for a position in the cabin instead as it pays more again..I never thought i would see the day cabin crew earn more then the guys/gals driving the thing and why is that?? Cause too many people would sell there mothers to get on the big shiny jet..
Look at those cruise FO positions with V..GA pays more and if you really need the money apply for a position in the cabin instead as it pays more again..I never thought i would see the day cabin crew earn more then the guys/gals driving the thing and why is that?? Cause too many people would sell there mothers to get on the big shiny jet..
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The point that needs to be made here is that we never seem to learn from history. When economic times start getting tough, pilots are prepared to accept lower conditions and pay - without giving a second thought to others who may end up being displaced because of their actions. This is the sort of thing these "budget" airlines feed on.
Generally speaking, once we achieve the position we want, we complain and moan about how bad we have got it.
Our beloved Prime Minister is quoted as saying ".... I would like to see pay parity between the New Zealand and Australian workforce ....."
How can we achieve that if people are prepared to accpet the first (and lowest offer) that is put on the table???
Generally speaking, once we achieve the position we want, we complain and moan about how bad we have got it.
Our beloved Prime Minister is quoted as saying ".... I would like to see pay parity between the New Zealand and Australian workforce ....."
How can we achieve that if people are prepared to accpet the first (and lowest offer) that is put on the table???
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These crews operating from CHC fly different airframes for different airlines, so why would JS give preference to these pilots.
ing difference? You can spout off all this brand crap-ola but at the end of the day its all QANTAS, plain and simple. No different in principal to what is happening at other industries, like telecom moving call centres to the India, why? Because its cheaper labour, meaning more profits. who gets shafted? The employee's, In this case though there is the added advantage of the profits going overseas.
I would also point out that little or no benefit can be made by contacting NZALPA, you would not receive a balanced view.
ALPA are doing their job, looking after their members, its obvious Qantas doesnt give a
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I understand some people want to stay in NZ, and want to do what's best for their family. Your family won't thank you when your eyeballs are hanging out and you have no time or energy left for them on an almost constant basis throughout the year. Talk to as many guys as you can already flying 320's and 737's in NZ for Australian companies about this.
There is a reason PB FA's and Pilots boycott the Chrismas social event, and hold there own the day before. That has been going on for years. It speaks volumes when this segment of the workforce turns down free drinks!
The least anyone can do is sit on their hands until the ALPA court case is resolved. There is no hurry, Jetstar will always have a steady turnover of pilots, just like PB has done.
Piling debt upon your family, to go to a LCC is a huge decision, I wish there was a way for guys in your position to go forward in time just for a while, to appreciate what a difference it will make, materially and emotionally.
Good luck.
There is a reason PB FA's and Pilots boycott the Chrismas social event, and hold there own the day before. That has been going on for years. It speaks volumes when this segment of the workforce turns down free drinks!
The least anyone can do is sit on their hands until the ALPA court case is resolved. There is no hurry, Jetstar will always have a steady turnover of pilots, just like PB has done.
Piling debt upon your family, to go to a LCC is a huge decision, I wish there was a way for guys in your position to go forward in time just for a while, to appreciate what a difference it will make, materially and emotionally.
Good luck.
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How come NZALPA (read air nz alpa) are going on about "below industry standard conditionS". Jetstar are now paying more than both Pacblue and Jitconnect !!
Why should the jetconnect pilots get anything special from Jetstar anyway, as said ealier, they are different airlines !!!!
Why should the jetconnect pilots get anything special from Jetstar anyway, as said ealier, they are different airlines !!!!
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Ah don't think so fella, looks good on paper, but I just run the figures for Jetstar take home per fortnight and it doesn't fair too well, especially for FO's.
Jetstar Capt will work 85hrs a month to earn roughly what a Jetconnect Capt will working 65. If a Jetconnect Capt works 85 credit hrs, he or she will take home nearly $1000 more a fortnight.
Jetstar FO working 85 hours will take home about $100 less per fortnight than a current Jetconnect FO working 65 hours. If a Jetconnect FO works 85 credit hrs, he or she will take home an extra $800 per fortnight.
It's called DTA, something Jetstar lacks. Incentive pay is roughly 40% below Jetconnects.
Jetconnect also get a guaranteed retention bonus, plus a yearly pilot bonus that may be paid at the companys discretion.
Jetstar have a pilot bonus at the sole discretion of the company. Which in these times I'd bet my left testie they won't be oblidged to pay.
If you want the figures, I'll gladly post them. I do warn you tho, it paints a pritty grizzly picture.
2 percent super, pay for your own jepps and medical. Now thats cheaky Jetstar!! I thought Jetconnect was the bottom of the heap when it comes to T&C's!!
Jetstar Capt will work 85hrs a month to earn roughly what a Jetconnect Capt will working 65. If a Jetconnect Capt works 85 credit hrs, he or she will take home nearly $1000 more a fortnight.
Jetstar FO working 85 hours will take home about $100 less per fortnight than a current Jetconnect FO working 65 hours. If a Jetconnect FO works 85 credit hrs, he or she will take home an extra $800 per fortnight.
It's called DTA, something Jetstar lacks. Incentive pay is roughly 40% below Jetconnects.
Jetconnect also get a guaranteed retention bonus, plus a yearly pilot bonus that may be paid at the companys discretion.
Jetstar have a pilot bonus at the sole discretion of the company. Which in these times I'd bet my left testie they won't be oblidged to pay.
If you want the figures, I'll gladly post them. I do warn you tho, it paints a pritty grizzly picture.
2 percent super, pay for your own jepps and medical. Now thats cheaky Jetstar!! I thought Jetconnect was the bottom of the heap when it comes to T&C's!!