Qantas will be dead in 6 months
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Some of Mr Iriver's sentiment has credibility. In my recent travel experience on Qantas, I planned travel on four sectors, two international and two domestic. Of these flights two were cancelled, that's a 50% strike rate! Qantas also lost our bags! I insisted that the bags were incorrectly tagged, the staff member concerned assured me that he knew and was having that bags retagged immediately. Naturally, Sunday night, Qantas, this didn't happen.
Qantas is deplorable, although Jet* is nostalgic, as it takes you back to travelling in the 1930's when flying was much more hit and miss.
The hypocracy is a bunch of kids running round the world singing, " I still call Austraia home"! One is then confonted with "kopin carr" of an entire Thai crew.
Finally, I think Mr. Iriver deserves a hearing and has some important points, it is typically Qantas to arrogantly belittle any such points.
Flying Qantas reminds me of the Movie, The castle, "tell em their dreaming", when Qantas considers itself a "full service airline".
I accept that VB does not provide a competitive alternative, but imagine if they did? What trouble would the Q be in now?
Qantas is deplorable, although Jet* is nostalgic, as it takes you back to travelling in the 1930's when flying was much more hit and miss.
The hypocracy is a bunch of kids running round the world singing, " I still call Austraia home"! One is then confonted with "kopin carr" of an entire Thai crew.
Finally, I think Mr. Iriver deserves a hearing and has some important points, it is typically Qantas to arrogantly belittle any such points.
Flying Qantas reminds me of the Movie, The castle, "tell em their dreaming", when Qantas considers itself a "full service airline".
I accept that VB does not provide a competitive alternative, but imagine if they did? What trouble would the Q be in now?
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The A380 loads are holding up ok.
The aircraft ittself is all flash and new.
There are several engineering issues presenting themselves, although as I am not on fleet I do not know the specifics. However I am told from an area in the company that watches reliability that the aircraft is not performing as expected. I remmeber explaining to many old timers I flew with that the A380 lacked "conformity".
I explained the nature of the operating environment. Airports privately owned, airlines privately owned, competing financial pressures. To my mind a aircraft that departed from the known characteristics, including wingspan, gate requirements, pavement strengths, passenger loading areas etc may be in for a hard time. I was told in no uncertain terms that the same thing occurred when the 707 (100ish passengers) was replaced by the 747..That is true the logistics of the aircraft resulted in taxiway changes, aerobridge redesign, terminal upgrades etc.
The real difference this time is that the airline operating it and the airport receiving it are not owned by the government. In the case of the A380 LA airport has already stated that the aircraft is not suited when in their airspace..
Naturally all these issues were known. Engineering would have known, flight operations would have had an incling. No doubt airport and ramp would understand people and baggage logistics. Talking with cabin crew collegaues I was told the galleys are way too small and fail to cater for the reuirements of the cabin, insufficient space to tray up meals, no works space etc etc, I am certain none of the people who could have guided the process were ever really consulted. Another hallmark of tail wag dog approach...A benchmark of Q management since I began there
For the sake of all of us at the Q, I hope the aircraft works
Qantas Airbus A380 too big for Los Angeles airport | The Daily Telegraph
My concern is not the sort of tripe spun by idiots like Peter and the institute (Just what sort of institute is it...and who else besides him is in it??)
My concern is the business continues to ignore those professionals in their own field. You want to understand engineering process talk to your engineers, want to understand the logistics of cabin service, talk to cabin crew, want ot understand implications of operating to certain airports, talk to your pilots. There are numerous examples...
I fear the top down approach will not assist one iota surviving this downturn. It may be a little more than a cyclical downturn. If so, "management" prescribing any process without listening to those in the know (for the accountants-the pesky units of operational labour) then we are in for a very hard time.
The aircraft ittself is all flash and new.
There are several engineering issues presenting themselves, although as I am not on fleet I do not know the specifics. However I am told from an area in the company that watches reliability that the aircraft is not performing as expected. I remmeber explaining to many old timers I flew with that the A380 lacked "conformity".
I explained the nature of the operating environment. Airports privately owned, airlines privately owned, competing financial pressures. To my mind a aircraft that departed from the known characteristics, including wingspan, gate requirements, pavement strengths, passenger loading areas etc may be in for a hard time. I was told in no uncertain terms that the same thing occurred when the 707 (100ish passengers) was replaced by the 747..That is true the logistics of the aircraft resulted in taxiway changes, aerobridge redesign, terminal upgrades etc.
The real difference this time is that the airline operating it and the airport receiving it are not owned by the government. In the case of the A380 LA airport has already stated that the aircraft is not suited when in their airspace..
Naturally all these issues were known. Engineering would have known, flight operations would have had an incling. No doubt airport and ramp would understand people and baggage logistics. Talking with cabin crew collegaues I was told the galleys are way too small and fail to cater for the reuirements of the cabin, insufficient space to tray up meals, no works space etc etc, I am certain none of the people who could have guided the process were ever really consulted. Another hallmark of tail wag dog approach...A benchmark of Q management since I began there
For the sake of all of us at the Q, I hope the aircraft works
Qantas Airbus A380 too big for Los Angeles airport | The Daily Telegraph
My concern is not the sort of tripe spun by idiots like Peter and the institute (Just what sort of institute is it...and who else besides him is in it??)
My concern is the business continues to ignore those professionals in their own field. You want to understand engineering process talk to your engineers, want to understand the logistics of cabin service, talk to cabin crew, want ot understand implications of operating to certain airports, talk to your pilots. There are numerous examples...
I fear the top down approach will not assist one iota surviving this downturn. It may be a little more than a cyclical downturn. If so, "management" prescribing any process without listening to those in the know (for the accountants-the pesky units of operational labour) then we are in for a very hard time.
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More of the Dixon eras poor decisions will soon be coming home to roost. The idea of putting all that capacity into only two ports, LHR and LAX, to boost shareholder returns could soon reduce shareholder returns dramatically. The two countries where the WFC is having a huge impact on the tourism industry and now Swine flu is raising its ugly head may finally turn the A380 into a dead duck. Oh for some B777s and some other destinations where we were making a small profit to smooth the road ahead. I won't hold my breath.
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Why Jed do you think the most obvious decisions aren't made?
Load mainline up with cost, then bust it and re-birth as Q lite....
If it isn't workchoices it is somethign else!!!
Load mainline up with cost, then bust it and re-birth as Q lite....
If it isn't workchoices it is somethign else!!!
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Interesting statistics reported in today's Airline Transport World . . . apart from the severe yield drop, I didn’t realise that JetStar domestic carries nearly half the number of passengers of Qantas domestic – and the gap is closing!
Qantas suffered one of its worst-ever collapses in yield on international flights in March, according to a Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation analysis. QF's international yield plunged 11% year-over-year in March following a 2.4% fall in February. CAPA said yesterday that March domestic yield dropped 10.1% after falling 9.7% the prior month. March international passenger numbers were down 15.8% and domestic numbers declined 2.6% to 1.4 million. Low-cost subsidiary Jetstar Airways saw international passengers rise 36.3% to 186,000 and domestic increase 1.8% to 686,000. Overall, group passenger numbers decreased 2.7% to 3.2 million on a 6.4% fall in RPKs to 8.11 billion. Capacity dipped 4% to 10.3 billion ASKs, lowering load factor 2 points to 78.3%.
Qantas suffered one of its worst-ever collapses in yield on international flights in March, according to a Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation analysis. QF's international yield plunged 11% year-over-year in March following a 2.4% fall in February. CAPA said yesterday that March domestic yield dropped 10.1% after falling 9.7% the prior month. March international passenger numbers were down 15.8% and domestic numbers declined 2.6% to 1.4 million. Low-cost subsidiary Jetstar Airways saw international passengers rise 36.3% to 186,000 and domestic increase 1.8% to 686,000. Overall, group passenger numbers decreased 2.7% to 3.2 million on a 6.4% fall in RPKs to 8.11 billion. Capacity dipped 4% to 10.3 billion ASKs, lowering load factor 2 points to 78.3%.
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Indeed, we frequently have the pleasure of hosting Jetstar passengers on their heavily discounted fares flying codeshare flights on mainline Qantas aircraft. And if the seats weren't bolted to the aircraft floor I'm sure they'd try to take them with them as they get off.
I'd also be very wary of data coming out of the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, which in turn is fed to them by Qantas.
I'd also be very wary of data coming out of the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, which in turn is fed to them by Qantas.
They probably paid full fare on Qantas...bikies aren't short of a quid after all!
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No matter who our passengers are or regardless of where they come from, the common fact is they're all reaching into their pocket for some hard earned money to buy a ticket.
They might just deserve our respect
GUARD
They might just deserve our respect
GUARD