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Second Fake LAME Identifed

Old 9th Feb 2009, 03:33
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Talk about a useless regulator they have directed Qf to check that all CAR 31 (lame) CAR 33b (MA) and repair authorities have only signed within the scope of their approvals. This order would not have picked up the two fake lames because they were not holders of any of the above approvals.

How could CASA be so incompetent even after Tim and Glen have been caught out? How many more are there and how will CASA even know? Will we have to wait another 12 months and have more press and go through this sham process again?




Direction 1
1 The operator must undertake an audit to identify and verify the currency and validity of the maintenance- and engineering-related qualifications, authorisations, ratings, endorsements, approvals and permissions held by all of the operatorís personnel who:
(a) hold an aircraft maintenance engineer licence issued under regulation 31 of the Civil Aviation Regulations 1988 (CAR 1988); or
(b) hold an airworthiness authority issued under regulation 33B of CAR 1988; or
(c) authorised to approve the design of a modification or repair of an aircraft or aircraft component under regulation 35 of CAR 1988;
in the performance of their duties as the operatorís employees, may certify for the completion of maintenance in relation to aircraft operated by the operator, and aircraft components and materials fitted to, or used in or on, those aircraft, approve the design of a modification or repair of an aircraft or aircraft component at any location within or outside Australian territory.
2 On or before 27 February, the operator is directed to provide CASA with the full name and ARN of any person whose qualifications were assessed for the purposes of the audit mentioned in clause 1 and who was found to have exercised the privileges of a maintenance engineer licence (including a rating or endorsement in respect of such a licence), an airworthiness authority or an authorisation to approve the design of a modification or repair without holding the necessary licence (rating or endorsement), authority or authorisation including the date(s) and the location(s) where this occurred.
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 04:37
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Too many layers removed...

Training Coordinator...
Tech school clerk...
SIT Planners...
Manpower Planners...

All of the above maintained records, sighted CASA licences, knew everyone and what training they'd done as well as WTF was going on.

This debacle was created by inept management, not CASA, sheet it home to wreckless cost cutting, nothing more nothing less!!!
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 05:15
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Talk about a useless regulator they have directed Qf to check that all CAR 31 (lame) CAR 33b (MA) and repair authorities have only signed within the scope of their approvals. This order would not have picked up the two fake lames because they were not holders of any of the above approvals.
Exactly..............

How stupid can they get.
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 05:25
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Sorry for starting this thread peoples. I thought there was a problem out at Mascot but all is ok. This is what a Qantas spokesperson said -

"We do not believe there are any flight safety issues," she said.
Would somebody please check her qualifications.
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 05:48
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i find it amazing how much crap is written on this forum. Glen happens to be a good bloke. he has for the most part made a few mistakes that some other people i know at QF have and gotten away with it. If he has indeed done the worst then feel sorry for him. From all accounts i have heard something different to what is on here. He did do QF course. Added to that is the fact that we work with a flawed system,

that is. No photo on your casa licence, No liason between QF and casa when you first get your licence, No controlled stamp (overseas airlines use a stamp issued by QA once all your Qualifications are checked), self service of EQ. the list goes on. cost cut cost cut.!!!

Manaagement need to take the blame for once, why is it that it all passes back to the LAME. Not all people are honest as we have seen and i believe managements gamble with this trust may one day lead to loss of human life. who will take the blame then?

i had many dealings with tim mccormack, glen is not like him.
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 08:19
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Has anyone actually got any legitimate proof that Glen is a fake? He is qualified to do what the authorities are stating that he can't and has the authentic (not fakes) certificates/quals to prove so. Maybe you should all watch your backs as they may target you next! He has not been sacked, only stood down as part of company policy when they are "investigating" an alleged incident(s). I hope he sues those who published these false reports!
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 08:51
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Is he or is he not licensed to sign off on the work he did? If you heard straight form the horses mouth you must know the truth???!!! I have heard straight from the horses mouth also that there's been a complete stuff up by QF. Maybe there are a few horses mouths so one must ask who the hell is telling the truth????
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 09:45
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Where is the presumption of innocence untill Proven guilty? This trial by media and inuendo at the work place may blow up in the face of certain QE managers. Lets just wait and see what unfolds.
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 09:57
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What a crap place to have to go back to work to when your name is mud and everyone thinks you're guilty. I hope the people that have created this debarcle are dealt with and there is a public apology.
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 10:04
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There are certain managers that have a reputation for "flapping their gums"

You can all see now..... who do you trust?
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 20:54
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I hope those that are in the know are correct and Smasher can screw Qantas, CASA and the media for all he can get. The association should know that just because he's not a member doesn't mean he's not licenced. Qantas has a very poor record when it comes discipline, they manage to stuff it up just about every time. Lets hope they've done it again.
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 23:22
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Our comments are not based on whether he is a member or not and yes, we know that not all LAMEs are members.

Our comments are based on what we have been told by Qantas, CASA and the Ministry of Transport plus reporters who call us after they have spoken to the airline. The reporters then confirm that Qantas have identified this situation and sacked the individual.

A few weeks after Tim was discovered there were text msgs from him back to his crew with things like "it's all cool I'll be back at work soon".
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Old 9th Feb 2009, 23:47
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"how do you know he's the bishop of Leister" - "tattoo on the back of his neck!" (monty python)

hmmm..... there's a thought, lets get all the real Lames tattooed
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 00:26
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Qantas or whoever disclosed this investigation has breached confidentality. This was a conifdential matter and it should have remained that way. Whovever let the cat out of the bag has a lot to answer to. Given this, how come everybody knew about this before the meeting was held, and is positive that he has done wrong? The statement that he has been sacked is not true. The "officials" assured confidentiality and that what was discussed was not to leave the room where the meeting was held. One of these two people has stuffed up and I hope that they regret and are are sincere when they have apologise for what they have done. Prior to the media getting a hold of this, can anybody tell me when they found out about this and by whom??
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 00:48
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On another similar matter and comments on what the press are told. It was interesting to note after the Avalon towing incident with OJK in December. On the evening news that night, Qantas stated that the employees were all stood down. At that stage they weren't stood down.

They were stood down at a later stage to suit the media comment. Natural justice at work - the Qantas way.

LAMEs will be hearing more regarding the Avalon towing investigation and the application of the Just policy. We will be responding to the unfair demotion of a Senior LAME who appears to have been made the scapegoat. Our response will be timed and designed to achieve his reinstatement and to ensure that no ALAEA member is ever treated in this manner again.

We will be monitoring developments regarding the alleged false LAME closely. The ALAEA has also contacted CASA regarding another person who has possibly been certifying for work that he is not qualified for.
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 01:10
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You seem to be certain that he is guilty. Why then is the union supporting him with his "not guilty" (so to speak) plea?? He has the certificates and exam results to prove that he is licenced to undertake what he does. He is not a fake. You said that the ALEA has contacted CASA about another alledged "fake". Maybe you should have checked their qualifications, making certain that you were on the right path before trying to ruin somebody elses career??
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 01:12
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I'll put the words into my mouth. Not you.

Don't bother arguing any further.
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 01:16
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whatsupdoc

You beat me to it.
I was going to say, I can't be the only one reading the press and this thread who is not appalled by the fact that the full name and picture was published before the allegations are proved.
It looks like Trial buy media..... Before any charges have been made.


Our comments are based on what we have been told by Qantas, CASA and the Ministry of Transport plus reporters who call us after they have spoken to the airline.
Fed Sec would this be defined as "hear say" ??
Perhaps our association should not comment until after the facts are clear and rulings are handed down, so we do not end up with egg on our face and we (the association) maintain the semblance of professionalism.
There would appear to be much more about this story than has been published and surely it would be best to stay out until all has been made clear.

For mine the only thing that is clear is that this is Murrays legacy

My 2 cents
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 01:20
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Hopefully we will have an outcome by today...............oops most of you have already made up your minds without exploring the truth. Goodbye and goodluck with your careers! May truth prevail.
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Old 10th Feb 2009, 01:39
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There's that word again Bolty;

For mine the only thing that is clear is that this is Murrays legacy
Legacy.......
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