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Old 25th Mar 2009, 04:01
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We had that many in Talair in its heyday.
The peak was 69 aircraft prior to the same of the SE aircraft. How many were operating at any one time was another matter!

From memory, by the early 1980s, Talair was flying 44,000 hours in 85,000 flight sectors per annum and accounted for well in excess of 50% of all flying activity in PNG.

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Old 26th Mar 2009, 01:35
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PNG Registered Aircraft.

Ok then just how many aircraft, rotary and fixed wing are registered to operate in PNG for 2009. Any factual information? With elCid involved in an Audit, maybe he would/could hav e access to the information. Just a thought.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 04:41
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PNG CAA Register here
Aircraft
No currency date so I don't know how accurate it is. It shows 185 aircraft.

There a couple of obvious errors like the Airlink aircraft and the F28-4000's that have been on holidays for a while now.
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Old 26th Mar 2009, 07:03
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Good point raised by Dwarf Hunter on the raising of revenue from overflight charges. Where indeed does all that money go? It is a good ongoing source that is fairly constant. Indeed, if QF start operating the A380 through PNG airspace to Japan/Korea, maybe we can charge them double the normal rate, one for each deck.

Torres, for some reason I thought Talair had 80+ aircraft during the time I was with them, 1979 - 1983, but then again those memories are slightly obscured by recurring visions of empty brown bottles at the Lae Aero Club and trying to maintain my sanity in the roundhouse at Hoskins.
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Old 14th Apr 2009, 15:21
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Hi DuckPilot,
I havent heard the whole story myself I was hoping someone will throw some light on the matter but I guess not,I've heard about the airnogat boys coming into Lihir as late as 19:30-20:00Lc sometime I guess this time they have to force it in, your options out there are really limited at that time of the day plus wx wasnt helping.
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Old 14th Apr 2009, 23:15
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Thumbs down

I see airnogat propose buying a Falcon 90 for use by mining charters and the government. Aparently the Kingair isn't big enough to carry the PM in the comfort he demands.

The abuse of the PNG populace by their elected representatives, business and public service(sic) sectors just beggars belief.
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Old 15th Apr 2009, 21:59
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I see airnogat propose buying a Falcon 90 for use by mining charters and the government. Aparently the Kingair isn't big enough to carry the PM in the comfort he demands.

The abuse of the PNG populace by their elected representatives, business and public service(sic) sectors just beggars belief.
Yes indeed - It is wrong on so many levels. His people are suffering from all sorts of things and all he can think about is buying a brand new private jet for himself. Go figure. 'Absolute power corrupts absolutely'
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Old 16th Apr 2009, 00:49
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Falcon 900EX

As I said in another post; at least they are conserving resources by buying the 900EX and not the 900-7!

Anyway, whoever is paying for the aircraft and stating that it will serve the nation by operating into regional airports, is I believe misleading the populace. With tyre pressures of some 200psi and small diameter wheels, the aircraft may well be limited to PM ops only. Maybe Nadzab, maybe Momote, but I think that other strips will be out! If used in Wewak, there is every chance that repairs to runway damage will exceed any financial benefit of going in there in the first place.

Let us be honest. This machine with 9 hour leg capability is more suitable to visit other countries and spots such as Cns, Bne, Syd, Can, Akl, Wln, Mnl, Jkt, Sin, Bkk,Dub, Pacific nations and other areas of greater interest.

I'd recommend a F70 with extra belly tanks for range, some compatibility to the F100 with staff trained both tech and amd. and able to operate to PNG domestic airports.
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Old 17th Apr 2009, 02:03
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It would be the perfect gig for chuckles if he ever felt that way inclined
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Old 17th Apr 2009, 02:10
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Wonder who got the block of flats for this one ??
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Old 21st Apr 2009, 11:13
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I see that everyone is pretty much on the right track.
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Old 21st Apr 2009, 21:48
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Reason for the purchase of the Falcon 900EX -
So The Chief Sir Michael Somare can avoid politically embarrassing incidents such as he created in Brisbane when asked to remove his shoes to pass through the x-ray machine so he could utilise the transit lounge BNE. How precious? He refused & there was a stand-off which he lost.
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 01:33
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troppo from what i hear the top handful of guys at PX have the 900 covered...as it should be too.
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 02:46
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Toys for the Boys
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Old 22nd Apr 2009, 21:07
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Latest talk going around the 4th floor is that the F70 deal has fallen through and now they are looking at Q400s.
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Old 25th Apr 2009, 14:41
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If this info is correct then that is good news WW. By the Q400, I presume you mean the Dash 8, I have heard that there a few floating around the sandpit and used by VIPS to go into some of the former Soviet Union countries for business and politics quite successfully. Those countries have operating challenges similar to PNG but at 30 degrees colder.

For my money, the Dash 8 is a much better option as the PM and team would be able to serve more destinations in PNG, the support infrastructure for the Dash 8 is already established and it would considerably cheaper. All international flying should be on PX, who could use the revenue.

But then again.... maybe the intent is to actually overfly the main land mass at FL430 enroute to Wewak, or other more illustrious destinations abroad. Mi no save!!
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 01:58
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Only in Australia would we ask the Prime Minister of another nation to remove his shoes at an airport. What a discrace. Australia taught him to wear shoes then we make him take them off.
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Old 26th Apr 2009, 03:53
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"Anyway, whoever is paying for the aircraft...."
I would have thought that would be clear - whilst Australia is gifting around $1 million to PNG every day, I guess it will be myself and the other Aussie tax payers?

Kelly, if The Chief travels as a normal airline passenger, on a scheduled airline, via the public airport domestic or international departure gates, he must be subject to the same normal Australian law as any other passenger, Diplomatic Passport regardless. Can't say I've ever seen him wear shoes, only sandals.

No doubt with the inteligencia we have manning airport security, the incident could have been handled far better.
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Old 29th Apr 2009, 06:32
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It's the Dash 8 Q400 they are looking at,rumour is that they want 2 by the end of the year to operate over the F100 routes. Aparently Lihir Gold and Oilsearch are also very interested because the aircraft has the legs to go direct to Brisbane from there sites at pritty much jet speeds. Obviously the payload would be sumwhat reduced down to about 50 pax. Crewing and maintaining the machines will be the biggest headache. PX can't crew all the Dash 8's they already have.
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Old 4th May 2009, 03:53
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Number Of Aircraft Operating In Png

I Iwll Getthe Numbers Checked But I Believe They Are In The Order Of Approx 95 Commercial And A Handfull Of Pvt Aircraft.

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