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Old 13th Oct 2008, 11:06
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except in Direct Law......
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 11:15
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VH-JJW.... correct but lets wait till the readings from "all" the recorders is in shall we ??
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In other news, the airframe was overstressed due to exceeding the negative g limit.
I am struggling to see it happening...... but would this mean an airframe write off? Surely not......... but how are these airframes treated in such an event?

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Old 13th Oct 2008, 12:30
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exceeding the negative g limit.
I am struggling to see it happening
Most normal category aircraft are limited to -1.0g to +2.5g

Looks like -1.0g may have been exceeded!
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Old 13th Oct 2008, 20:57
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My sources are technical pilots close to the investigation. -1.0g was indeed exceeded.
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 00:31
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I heard yesterday ( Mon 13th ) afternoon that the NTSB have "handed" the aircraft back to qantas so that seems like they have completeted some stage of the investigation. Don't know what the immediate plans for QPA are though.
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 02:25
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lotus are you implying that there will be an ATSB and QF cover up, and if indeed these events did happen, there will be a public inquiry to ascertain whether a rumour network had the truth (ie alleged posts from an inside source?) before the public?

If negative g did occur I think it would be fairly easily validated by the ATSB, and very hard to cover up. (Can't think why anyone would)
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 02:37
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Don't know what the immediate plans for QPA are though.
Start another museum perhaps? One for the French!

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Old 14th Oct 2008, 06:40
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Lotus, my information is not "exlusive" or even exclusive, just not widely known at this point. It is however from an impeccable source. The reason I post it here is so that the thread can move away from any intimation that the crew somehow screwed up; they didn't. My concern is also very much for the crew and the sooner any speculation about them ends, the better. The ATSB report will simply confirm what I say here.
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 07:36
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Nice try. The ATSB report will back up what I say. Your curiosity will have to wait.
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 08:45
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Don't know what the immediate plans for QPA are though.
Flown back to SY this arvo
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 08:49
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Speaking of spilling the beans A380-800 driver, tell us all what exactly was the little problem that grounded EK's one and only A380 for over a week?
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 09:08
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A COMPUTER fault caused the autopilot system to be overridden, sending a Qantas plane into a mid-air plunge over Western Australia last week, authorities said tonight.

The air data computer - or inertial reference system - for the Airbus A330-300 sent erroneous information to the flight control computer causing the autopilot to disconnect, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) said.

More than 70 people on Qantas flight QF72 from Singapore to Perth were injured on Tuesday last week when the Airbus, carrying 303 passengers and 10 crew, suddenly dropped altitude.

People were hurled around the cabin and the pilot was forced to make an emergency landing in Western Australia's north

Source: Computer fault caused Qantas plunge | NEWS.com.au
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Latest newpaper report. - Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB)A COMPUTER fault caused the autopilot system to be overridden, sending a Qantas plane into a mid-air plunge over WA last week, investigators say.
The air data computer - or inertial reference system - for the Airbus A330-300 sent erroneous information to the flight control computer causing the autopilot to disconnect, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) said.
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 09:16
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Media release 14 Oct
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 09:30
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And that grounded it for over a week?
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 09:37
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I heard it was a fire?
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 09:42
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I can recall, and it was more than a week. So it must have been substantial damage.
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 09:55
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-800, the media release broadly confirms what I said.
The crew's timely response led to the recovery of the aircraft trajectory within seconds.
There will be other revelations about what the crew were faced with in due course. They will confirm my point about the crew being in no way responsible for the event, and to be congratulated for their handling of it. The system failures were not limited to just the ADIRU, far from it.

The other point I find interesting is the reference to this being a unique event. I believe the QF 30 incident was also unique in many ways. I don't know why Qantas has been the recipient of two unique aviation events in such short order. Maybe it will simply be a case of ****e happens. Maybe not. Luckily they were both handled in exemplary fashion by both the Tech and Cabin crews involved.
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 10:11
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Somehow, glass houses come to mind?
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