Qantas Shares! how low can they go?
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It's only a loss when you sell them.
Like teresa said Gods not making any more real estate and thats where my money is.Forget bricks and morter buy land.
QF shares hit a new low today $1.58 !! Any bets on $1.50 bt weeks end ?
Apparently leave without pay is being looked at in QCC ATM and will be offered to TC shortly if things don't improve in the next month or two.
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At what point is the "trigger" where QF will have to act to preserve the mainline brand? If at all?
An example of sacrificing a successful product to protect the main / core brand is Estee' Lauder.
Estee' set up a lower cost product & re-branded these products which they distrubute thru Target stores nationally. The product has been & continues to be very profitable at the lower end of the market.
However Estee' has decided to scrap the lower cost / budget brand to reduce costs for the entire Estee' group even though the budget brand has been hugely successful.
The result being reduced costs via employment,advertising, duplication processes, distrubution costs & consolidation on the main or premium products.
Is QF in such a state where our own industry brand consolidation may occur?
An example of sacrificing a successful product to protect the main / core brand is Estee' Lauder.
Estee' set up a lower cost product & re-branded these products which they distrubute thru Target stores nationally. The product has been & continues to be very profitable at the lower end of the market.
However Estee' has decided to scrap the lower cost / budget brand to reduce costs for the entire Estee' group even though the budget brand has been hugely successful.
The result being reduced costs via employment,advertising, duplication processes, distrubution costs & consolidation on the main or premium products.
Is QF in such a state where our own industry brand consolidation may occur?
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ILS rundown chart or is it?
This could be one of my print outs after i have done some SIM sessions. It appears to be the same style of landing as mine. As its a renewal ( taken from a side-on prospective ). Each month is equal to 2 miles and the left hand blue numbers are my feet. I had trouble for a moment or two there, having ballooned after putting down the flaps and gear, but now there down and my speed is under control, its only a matter of time before i land nicely? The bottom column graph is where i was using throttle. You can see that at times i really slapped it in, of late it has been bit over active maybe. Only thing i forgot, as i'm still IMC, is what is the field elevation?? Hope i don't hit that ground?! I forgot what the right hand red numbers meant? maybe someone else could fill me in
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QAN did go ex-div today.. so that accounted for 6c of today's fall. The rest of it was probably just in line with the fall on the rest o the market.
I reckon SkyAir World management will be robbing their piggybanks, selling their grandmothers, stealing mum's milk money to make a takeover bid for Qantas!!!
Come back Mr Dixon and try and find another private equity buyer!
Come back Mr Dixon and try and find another private equity buyer!
What gives?
Last year Qantas was busy with a share buy-back at prices that, when compared with today's price, look like a King's Ransom. Now, Qantas is seeking to raise capital by issuing shares in order to fund new fleet. Is the planning such short term that the need to fund fleet was unknown at the time of the share buy-back? We know that a lot has happened in the financial world in the last twelve months - I wonder if the market declines are the reason for this latest capital raising?
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GD Shareprice woes
While watching Morning TV at work the Tuesday after the Victorian bush fires, the presenter claimed that the Red Cross appeal had just reached $64,000,000. I mentioned to the staff I was with that GD would have got that much alone if the Airline Partners deal had gone through. Allowing for inflation it would be worth a great deal more than Judas' 30 pieces of silver. All we can hope now is that he has been paid in shares and not cash. At $1.445 he must be cursing.
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QF could always offer some of the older dudes an incentive payment to retire early. This would protect some younger pilots jobs. Those with many years of service left.
But methinks they are a bit too conservative to think outside the circle.
But methinks they are a bit too conservative to think outside the circle.
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QF could always offer some of the older dudes an incentive payment to retire early.
There's always someone younger than you who thinks you're an old dude....
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I find it quite laughable that just 1 year ago execs were announcing tooth and nail they need to run the company to the benefit of shareholders, to maintain their divendend etc. Well quite frankly that has become a mute point as the sharemarket quite rightly has been hammered down to a realistic level. 12 year low lol! I notice the Super funds have gone quiet even of their long term levels of profit because they have been absolutly hammered also! The share price/share market is a paper economy, who cares about the price! Its all about the company. Qantas as well as heaps of others have been mauled, but I beg a different opinion who cares? Its all about whther the company survives or not not about a specualtors crappy sharemarket price. I would ask how low can any companys shares go? I would say theres no limit, there is a possibility it could go to zero and wipe it all out. I wouldnt be surprised... 
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No mate you don't have to sell them cause it's also a loss when the company goes under and your life savings in shares are as useless as an ash tray on a motor bike.
So you're stating that the two largest Australian aviation companies will go into receivership this year?
Sorry, was that VB? QF? or both?
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Quokka,Mate I was answering a post which said the ONLY way to lose money on your shares was if you sold them at a low price.
Pal,I'll give you a hint and it's a big NO.Are you sure not not with some news team cause thats not what I said.
IF you read my post I said that was not the only way you could lose.If the business you had shares in goes bust then you lose as well.Quokka,I did not say any business or QF or VB was going to go bust but in todays market anything s possible.
Since you mention it mate,if either airline did go bust which one do you think the government would bail out?
So you're stating that the two largest Australian aviation companies will go into receivership this year?
IF you read my post I said that was not the only way you could lose.If the business you had shares in goes bust then you lose as well.Quokka,I did not say any business or QF or VB was going to go bust but in todays market anything s possible.
Since you mention it mate,if either airline did go bust which one do you think the government would bail out?
