V Australia Operations DELAYED TO FEB09
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Gees I'm glad i didn't sign up for this gig. I wonder what happens to the poor mob who have left their jobs with pending start dates or have just started their training?
Will they continue to be paid a training wage?
OUCH!
Will they continue to be paid a training wage?
OUCH!
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Angle of Atack,
..Bring on the credit crunch...
...I'm not sure what you do but the first people affected (and already are) will be those who can't afford it nor are responsible for this situation
..Bring on the credit crunch...
...I'm not sure what you do but the first people affected (and already are) will be those who can't afford it nor are responsible for this situation
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Why would they? Take your triple 7 rating and head off to the lucrative Asian contract market! For those unlucky enough to be left with a co-pilot rating, spend a few dollars and have it upgraded to command, that's what I would be doing! Probably plenty of training slots available at Silverwater now...
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I wonder what happens to the poor mob who have left their jobs with pending start dates or have just started their training?
Will they continue to be paid a training wage?
Will they continue to be paid a training wage?
Why would they? Take your triple 7 rating and head off to the lucrative Asian contract market! For those unlucky enough to be left with a co-pilot rating, spend a few dollars and have it upgraded to command, that's what I would be doing! Probably plenty of training slots available at Silverwater now
Korean Airlines : 300+ on type, 1000+ airline transport, flown on type in last 12 months. Capatins : same plus 2000+ on airline transport.
Asiana: Captain, 500PIC on type, 1000 on type, 7000+ minimum. Effo min 500 on type
Vietnam : Captain, 5000hrs, 2000PIC, 500+PIC 777 international ops. F/O 500 hrs on type.
I would suspect the people with these requirements have been O/S and don't want to go back, the rest will not meet them.
Sincerely hope VA look after the drivers, but not holding my breath
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Those are published mins there Phooey. They have taken much less than that. I had a wet 737 type out of Dallas and was offered an Asian job on the spot.
Where are V Australia doing the 777 type at?
Where are V Australia doing the 777 type at?
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Can tell you from experience ( have a few 1000 narrow body command hours and have applied for widebody jobs ) there is a big difference between being hired for narrow body and wide body L/H with little or no experience.
Also the Yanks and oil prices have pretty much but the kaybosh on any " pilot shortage ", over here at least.
Also the Yanks and oil prices have pretty much but the kaybosh on any " pilot shortage ", over here at least.
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Where are V Australia doing the 777 type at?
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Salary
From the website.....
Only Cruise Relief First Officers receive a training salary (80% of salary). [b]All others are on full pay from joining date[b/]. The CRFO training salary is only for the period of the ground school. [b]Full salary will be instated on [u]successful completion of the simulator endorsement[b/][u/].
Not sure if thats what is actually happening but its there on the site.
Only Cruise Relief First Officers receive a training salary (80% of salary). [b]All others are on full pay from joining date[b/]. The CRFO training salary is only for the period of the ground school. [b]Full salary will be instated on [u]successful completion of the simulator endorsement[b/][u/].
Not sure if thats what is actually happening but its there on the site.
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before anyone states the obvious
i stuffed up the vB code but i cant get back into the edit page
i stuffed up the vB code but i cant get back into the edit page
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I heard VAUS was telling CRZ F/O's to seek interim employment. Once interim employment was obtained, the F/O was to tell VAUS so the new employer would pay the pilots salary to VAUS and then VAUS would then make up the difference for the VAUS salary. 
I dont even reckon VAUS will get up and running. I reckon the finance companies cannot even source cash for the finance of the 777? Good luck to those that have left their employment to work for VAUS, I would be looking for a new job if I was you, and doing it now!
I don't think VB will be far behind either, please take leave, leave without pay etc etc. I would not like to be in the last 1/3 of the seniority list, oh sorry, start date list. Things are going to get ugly lads, time to get the CV and log book up to date. Etihad, here we come? I think Camp Davidian have the FBI at the gates!
I dont even reckon VAUS will get up and running. I reckon the finance companies cannot even source cash for the finance of the 777? Good luck to those that have left their employment to work for VAUS, I would be looking for a new job if I was you, and doing it now!
I don't think VB will be far behind either, please take leave, leave without pay etc etc. I would not like to be in the last 1/3 of the seniority list, oh sorry, start date list. Things are going to get ugly lads, time to get the CV and log book up to date. Etihad, here we come? I think Camp Davidian have the FBI at the gates!
It just doesn't make sense. I mean in these times where airlines are trying to downsize surely V Oz could wet lease a 777 till their own aircraft are complete..........................are there parts of the picture obscured from our vision.......................is the intent not to operate V Oz at all ?
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I think the problem your theory has is ....... there are no 777-300ERs available anywhere, and if there were, they would be shagged!
At present they are the holy grail in airframes. Downturn or not!
J
I think the problem your theory has is ....... there are no 777-300ERs available anywhere, and if there were, they would be shagged!
At present they are the holy grail in airframes. Downturn or not!
J
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Something has to give here - I just can't see VA and VB/PB surviving together.
You would have to ask just what is going on in the "Brisbane Bunker". Are they totally deluded and oblivious to reality ???
Better to cut and run now and save what they can of the VB operation. That's if it's not already too late. Share price closed today at 33 cents.
VB staff certainly don't deserve to go through the same fate that AN suffered back in 2001.
You would have to ask just what is going on in the "Brisbane Bunker". Are they totally deluded and oblivious to reality ???
Better to cut and run now and save what they can of the VB operation. That's if it's not already too late. Share price closed today at 33 cents.
VB staff certainly don't deserve to go through the same fate that AN suffered back in 2001.
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I don't know about that...I saw a full terminal in Mascot the other day and the loads looked pretty good on the DJ side of the terminal. I think all of the loads looked good for everyone.
Whether or not that continues is another matter. I flew down on one of the new Eastern Q-400s from Port Macquarie and it was a very nice ride. The Virgin Embraer was full at that end too.
What's the upgrade time on the Q-400? That seems like a nice way to not suffer jet-lag and raise the children.
Whether or not that continues is another matter. I flew down on one of the new Eastern Q-400s from Port Macquarie and it was a very nice ride. The Virgin Embraer was full at that end too.
What's the upgrade time on the Q-400? That seems like a nice way to not suffer jet-lag and raise the children.
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Apparently with this delay V australia mangement are going ahead with its plan to get pilots on a common EBA with Cabin Crew.
Vote could be as early as next week in a hope to cash in on worry about security with the current delay.
Please all pilots at V australia. Think about it. You will be out numbered approx 6 - 1. Cabin Crew will have complete voting power on ALL YOUR future pay, CPI, SUPER , Lifestyle (including days off, on call, Work patterns), Promotions and progression, everything !!!
INSANE !. I have nothing against CC. But they are NOT pilots. they do not have the responsibilty or qualifications of pilots. They should have NO say in a pilots conditions. As we should not on there's.
Vote NO guys. Once it is done that's it for ever.
Vote could be as early as next week in a hope to cash in on worry about security with the current delay.
Please all pilots at V australia. Think about it. You will be out numbered approx 6 - 1. Cabin Crew will have complete voting power on ALL YOUR future pay, CPI, SUPER , Lifestyle (including days off, on call, Work patterns), Promotions and progression, everything !!!
INSANE !. I have nothing against CC. But they are NOT pilots. they do not have the responsibilty or qualifications of pilots. They should have NO say in a pilots conditions. As we should not on there's.
Vote NO guys. Once it is done that's it for ever.
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OMG....
Pammy............ you cant possibly be serious!!!!! How can the two roles even be compared....... Not to take anything away from cabin crew but i don't see them paying close to 100k for their professional repeat professional qualification.........
wow i'm just speechless.......
hang on a minute.. this must be a windup!!
haha you nearly got me!!
wow i'm just speechless.......
hang on a minute.. this must be a windup!!
haha you nearly got me!!
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A common EBA? Puts a whole new spin on the old "divide and conquer" adage, doesn't it? If not quite "unite and conquer", the "lump 'em all in together in one common pool where the pilots will be in a quite small minority" ploy is quite brilliant (from a management perspective at least). If history is anything to go by with other Sydney-based airlines, within a few years, the 'suck a lemon at sign on' brigade will hold sway among the female CC, and you-all-know-who-I-mean brigade will dominate the male CC... and the VA pilots will be (hoping I'm not misunderstood by my wildly mixed metaphors) - totally screwed.